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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:24 PM
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No WMD in Iraq; "the CIA is to blame!" BULLSHIT.
Book: CIA Ignored Info Iraq Had No WMD
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

BULLSHIT.

Doubts, Dissent Stripped from Public Version of Iraq Assessment

The public version of the U.S. intelligence community's key prewar assessment of Iraq's illicit arms programs was stripped of dissenting opinions, warnings of insufficient information and doubts about deposed dictator Saddam Hussein's intentions, a review of the document and its once-classified version shows.

As a result, the public was given a far more definitive assessment of Iraq's plans and capabilities than President Bush and other U.S. decision-makers received from their intelligence agencies.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0210-02.htm

CIA to Bush: 'No clear Evidence of WMD'
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/120103A.shtml

Why the CIA thinks Bush is wrong
The president says the US has to act now against Iraq. The trouble is, his own security services don't agree.
http://www.sundayherald.com/28384

CIA in blow to Bush attack plans
The letter also comes at a time when the CIA is competing with the more hawkish Pentagon, which is also supplying the White House with intelligence on the Iraqi threat.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,808970,00.h...

White House 'exaggerating Iraqi threat'
Bush's televised address attacked by US intelligence

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,807286,00.h...

Depiction of Threat Outgrew Supporting Evidence
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A39500-2003Aug ...

CIA's October 2002 NIE:

-Unmanned aircraft
" ... The Director, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance, US Air Force, does not agree that Iraq is developing UAVs primarily intended to be delivery platforms for chemical and biological warfare (CBW) agents."

bushit:

-"We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We are concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs for missions targeting the United States."

CIA's October 2002 NIE:

-WMD
"We lack specific information on many key aspects of Iraq's WMD programs."

bushit:

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."

"We know for a fact that there are weapons there."

"There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more."

"Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly"

"There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction."

"We know where they are."

CIA's October 2002 NIE:

-Nuclear program
"The activities we have detected do not, however, add up to a compelling case that Iraq is currently pursuing what INR would consider to be an integrated and comprehensive approach to acquire nuclear weapons."

bushit:

"Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program."

It sure as fuck wasn't the CIA or any other US intell who ignored the facts.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:26 PM
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1. I'm glad you showed up for this.
All I could find were my three links.

This time I'm bookmarking this page.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:41 PM
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6. There's more...
Edited on Mon Jan-02-06 10:50 PM by LynnTheDem
Neglecting Intelligence, Ignoring Warnings; A chronology of how the Bush Administration repeatedly and deliberately refused to listen to intelligence agencies that said its case for war was weak (tons of links)
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF...

They Knew
Despite the whitewash, we now know that the Bush administration was warned before the war that its Iraq claims were weak
http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/they_knew... /

Bushs WMD Flimflams
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0309d.asp

George Tenet; "Threat from Iraq is LOW."

Tenet told Congress in February 2001 that Iraq was "probably" pursuing chemical and biological weapons programs but that the CIA had no direct evidence that Iraq had actually obtained such weapons.
http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/bian_feb_2001.htm

Bush Knew Iraq Info Was Dubious
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/25/eveningnews/m...

Intelligence officials warned that Iraq WMD information was iffy
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/special...

Even the rightwingnut "World Net Daily" knows the truth;

Yes, Bush lied
Bush saw the warning, yet completely ignored it and barreled ahead with the war plans he'd approved a month earlier (Aug. 29), telling a completely different version of the intelligence consensus to the American people.

"If that's not lying, I don't know what is. That's inexcusable, and Bush supporters with any intellectual honesty and concern for their own families' safety should be mad as hell about it and that's coming from someone who voted for Bush."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_I...

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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:46 PM
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7. I thought I remembered that there was more.
Thanks again. I'll take the liberty of adding my favourite Toles cartoon to this thread.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:55 PM
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8. There's tons more, that's why Canada and France and Germany and
the overwhelming majority of the entire world said HELL NO to bush's illegal hitleresque invasion and occupation of Iraq. THEY KNEW it was all BULLSHIT. Just as BUSH KNEW.

And 150,000-600,000 human beings are now DEAD because of bush's LIES.

PS great toon; my fave toon is of two cows standing in line outside the Acme Meat-Processing Plant.

One cow says;

"I hear nothing but ground beef ever comes out of here."

The other cow says;

"Yes, but we must honor the sacrifices of all those who went before us."
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:36 PM
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11. another one - > FBI Pressured to Gin Up Iraq-al-Qaeda Links
December 15, 2005
by Paul Sperry

n the run-up to the Iraq war, FBI veterans say they were pressured by the Bush administration to come up with links, no matter how tenuous, between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda to help sell the planned military incursion.

They came up empty, however, and were told to redouble their efforts, scraping the bottom of the barrel, former officials say. When they still came up empty, the administration did not invite the bureau to the critical prewar National Foreign Intelligence Board (NFIB) meeting that produced the dossier on Iraq used by the White House to sway Congress.

The FBI normally has a seat at the NFIB. But in this case, it was not represented, even though the dossier makes judgments about the likelihood of Hussein launching terrorist attacks inside the U.S. a topic clearly within the FBI's realm of expertise.

...

Cole, who worked out of FBI headquarters, says the bureau-wide search did not turn up any substantive links.

"We had some very good sources, and I sent the communication out, and they all came back negative nothing that they were aware of," he says. "Some of them said al-Qaeda doesn't even get along with the Iraq regime because they're not fundamentalist enough, and there were other reasons why they didn't associate with each other."

more...
http://www.antiwar.com/sperry



peace
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:30 PM
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2. Excellent post LynnTheDem
Edited on Mon Jan-02-06 11:29 PM by bpilgrim
thanks for sharing these important links :toast:

It really is up to us to educate the media and many of our leaders since they apparently STILL haven't a clue.

:argh:

peace

(on edit: recommended)
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:32 PM
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3. I call bullshit too.
It was premeditated war/occupation.

Recommended for Greatest Page.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:32 PM
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4. Bullshit is too kind an assessment. These bastards.
(Hi, Lynn. Long time.)
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:32 PM
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5. Well you seeing history being rewritten
Ever wonder why people need to rewrite history?

The world can only watch in amazement as US under bush try to rewrite history.
Maybe we all dumb people without brains.

How the hell America end up with this #@$% joke as a president?
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:09 PM
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9. How?
Diebold!


:hi:
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:27 PM
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10. Yeah
But still why are so many people ignoring it
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:37 PM
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12. Tenet and Goss allowed the CIA to be blamed

They have quietly allowed the CIA to be bullied and circumvented as Chalabi's lies were routed to the New York Times and to the White House via the OSP (Office of Special Plans? Projects?) at the Pentagon.

They've let the CIA take the blame. They've sold out career CIA employees. They didn't complain when Plame was outed to the press.

I'm amazed career CIA employees haven't displayed more outrage. You know more than one of them probably has copies of everything from Bush's arrest record, AWOL military records, the abortion he bought for his underage girlfriend, and more. It surprises me someone hasn't got mad enough to leak the Abu Ghraib videos Hersch spoke of, where the relative of an interrogation subject was raped in the adjacent cell.
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Hyernel Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:43 PM
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13. It's sort of true...
CIA should have told Cheney and his plumbers to go fuck themselves instead of going along with the lies.

THAT'S what CIA is guilcup of.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:53 PM
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14. The bastard lied and should be in a traitor's prison right now.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 02:04 AM
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15. Kick (n/t)
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 10:09 AM
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16. Kickin' in case anyone's inclined to believe the new book's assertion.
:kick:
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 04:37 PM
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17. GWB: It They Falt; I ain't never make mistakes.
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