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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 09:52 AM
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Toyota plans ultra-inexpensive car
Toyota Motor Corp. plans to build a low-cost car undercutting Renault's emerging-market Logan through a "radical" rethink in design and production, the president of the fast-growing Japanese automaker said.

"The focus is on low-cost technology," Toyota president Katsuaki Watanabe told Britain's Financial Times newspaper in an interview published Monday.

He declined to set a price for a low-cost car but said it would be "at least" less than the Logan.

Renault has started production of the Logan, which will cost from 5,000 euros (6,200 dollars) on up, touted as a budget model for consumers in emerging economies such as China and Russia that conforms to European standards.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/22/070122074327.pbtqfqv6.html
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 09:54 AM
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1. Once again. They foresaw a need and beat us to the punch
good for them, bad for us.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 09:59 AM
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3. Yet somehow it be all leather and have all the bells and whistles!!
Don't kid yourself on Toyota. They are playing games with their money supply and thier pricing on certain vehicles so they can dominate the market. These are blatant unfair trade practices. Everyone knows they do it. No one can quite prove it.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 10:06 AM
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7. oh yes i forgot about the currency fixing
they have very little overhead in the usa,no pensions,retire health care costs,and generous tax breaks at the expense of the communities they have their plants in.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 10:07 AM
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8. We must have taught them well. n/t
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 09:56 AM
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2. Oh, fuck, what terrible news for the environment.
Tens of millions of new motorists. And China has some of the world's most polluted cities already.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 09:59 AM
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4. Imagine that...a cheap car. All I can say is...
...why now? This isn't a new idea, it's just never been put into effective action (at least here in the USA).

Could it have something to do oil prices and the total cost of ownership of a vehicle? Me thinks so.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 10:01 AM
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5. mini cars are not very practical
in the majority of driving situations in this country. a better focus would be public transportation,better urban planning,and electric/alternate fuel cars and multi purpose vehicles.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 10:02 AM
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6. Not only cheap but PROBABLY will get 35+ mpg
:shrug:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 10:08 AM
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9. Toyota is smart, they are preparing for the onslaught of chinese vehicles
that will be making their way over here next year.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 10:59 AM
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10. Now if they REALLY want to dominate the market
They would announce a low-cost car that is electric. It is what I would try to do if I was in his place......course.....it would probably mean the death of me, my family, my relatives, their dogs, cats and animals........

And I would include in the price--a type of stationary home solar/wind generator that you would plug the car into at the end of the day to recharge the batteries. :-)

I know--I'm an idiot.....but hey, it doesn't hurt to dream does it?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 11:19 AM
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11. This is the car they're chasing


The Logan, which is made in Romania by the Dacia plant, is a four-passenger car meant, as the OP stated, to be sold in places like Russia and China.

I figure that every Logan sold means an old Lada or Zhiguli can go to the recyclers.
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 11:22 AM
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12. holy shit, would that make my 06 Corolla a luxury automobile?
The Yaris is a small, inexpensive car and costs double of what the Logan does. I am scared to see how small the new car will be.

BTW. I love my Corolla and the gas cost savings.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 11:24 AM
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13. This is the car they're chasing


The Logan, which is made in Romania by the Dacia plant, is a four-passenger car meant, as the OP stated, to be sold in places like Russia and China.

I figure that every Logan sold means an old Lada or Zhiguli can go to the recyclers.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 11:25 AM
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14. This is the car they're chasing


The Logan, which is made in Romania by the Dacia plant, is a four-passenger car meant, as the OP stated, to be sold in places like Russia and China.

I figure that every Logan sold means an old Lada or Zhiguli can go to the recyclers.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 11:33 AM
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15. There is a ready market for 'light users' of automobiles....
.... Where people drive less than 50-100 miles per week to and from work, they do not spend that much time inside their vehicle and are focused on getting from A to B. The do not need all the bells and whistles, the higher payments and insurance costs. And they sure do not define their self-image by the car they drive.

I think Toyota is one of the most forward thinking companies you can find.

They recognize the market, the need, and the coming energy squeeze. Once again they may not have invented a process, but they are most likely to be the first to fully implement it in a broad way.
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