"Trust me" doesn't cut it. At all.

[Bouncy Ball]

The Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution the way they did partially because they were sick and tired of "trust me" from kings and tyrants.

The president cannot just say "trust me" and have everyone go "oh well, ok, in that case."

No. The president takes an oath to uphold, preserve and defend the Constitution, and he is subject to the system of checks and balances the Founding Fathers put in place so that NO ELECTED LEADER COULD GET AWAY WITH JUST SAYING "TRUST ME."

When that person VIOLATES the oath they took by violating the Constitution, consequences must be at hand. Those guys must be spinning in their graves, constantly.

I would say the same thing about and to a Democratic president, as well, if THEY did the same thing!

Anyone who just says they should just "trust" the president must hate the Constitution, must hate the system of checks and balances, must hate what the Founding Fathers did!

"Trust me" was never ever meant to be a channel of power in this country, ever. Trust that I'll uphold the oath I took if and until I prove that I didn't, yeah. But just carte blanche "trust me?" That is the thing of kings and tyrants. And that is the very thing our Founding Fathers were trying to escape and make sure it never happened here.

"Trust me" is for shit.

[Earth_First]

1. Trust me, I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night! n/t

[European Socialist]

2. He's folksy--that's good enough for me.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

3. Choir, Meet Bouncy Ball. Bouncy Ball, Meet Choir.

:)

I agree completely.

[Bouncy Ball]

4. Other people besides the choir read this place.

;-)

Sometimes, I draw them out.

And like someone once said, hey, sometimes the choir just needs to sing!

[EstimatedProphet]

5. Then sing it sister!

I'm with you all the way!

[Bouncy Ball]

6. Just warming up.

Ahem, la la la la la.

Ulla will now belt!

(The Producers reference...)

[kliljedahl]

11. Now if you were just a fat lady

singing for Dumbyah



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[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

8. Ha! I love your reply! Mwah! Picture perfect on all counts.

Seriously, shame on me for not seeing the bigger picture.

Secondly, I loved your end quote!

Thirdly, I enjoy being intellectually put in my place every so often hehe

:toast:

[Bouncy Ball]

14. Oh gosh thanks.

Stop making me blush like that!

Cheers!

[Beam Me Up]

7. Why would I trust any lying son of a past director of the CIA?

Who ever controls your perception of reality controls you. Whatever you believe to be true, upon that you will base your actions in the world and suffer the consequences there of. I trust my own perceptions of the world, mediated as they are by electronic media in this age. I don't TRUST what calls itself "our government." I do not trust that it was fairly elected. I do not trust that it represents my interests or the interests of the constitution or my fellow countrymen. I revoke my consent to be governed by it precisely because, in its current guise of the George W. Bush regime, IT HAS LOST ALL CREDIBILITY (and the media it rode in on).

:grr:

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[TahitiNut]

9. Trust??? They don't 'trust' the courts. They don't 'trust' Congress.

They don't 'trust' the law. They don't 'trust' the People! They deserve not trust but prison!

[Bouncy Ball]

16. So why the hell should we trust them?

Exactly!

[CoffeeCat]

10. True dat, Bouncy Ball...

"Trust me is for shit"

You said it all there.

Our leaders serve us. No leader in this country should assume that "trust me" is legitimate. In fact, it's anti-American.

Our government is structured in a way that protects the people--from government. When "trust me" is ok for all of us,
then we've given up our freedom and our democracy. We're renegades, cowboys, visionaries, trailblazers. We don't need
to lean on government leaders.

How self serving and egotistical for any politician to employ the "trust me folks!" mentality in this country. We're not
looking for a daddy or for someone to do the "hard work" for us. We're seeking a dignified, diplomatic, creative leader who can represent
WE THE PEOPLE with integrity and honor.

We don't need a power-mongering thug who lulls the masses into a catatonic state of laziness---cuz he's got it all covered.

Your post was dead on Bouncy...you sparked additional anger for shameful Junior and his arrogant sleaze. When will he learn
that he serves us. We are not minions who need to "trust him" and let him do the driving.

[mcscajun]

12. Never has, never will. Not in the small things, and *certainly* not

in the big things.

The very people who say 'Trust Me' are the very people you should never, ever, trust.

The ones who are trustworthy know that actions speak volumes; words, little.

[goddess40]

13. Trust me means I'm going to lie my ass off

When anyone says trust me the rest of what they say will be a lie, I've never known it to fail.

[Bouncy Ball]

15. What is that Mark Twain quote?

The guy who talks about how trustworthy he is is the one who causes you to count the silverware after he's gone?

[driver8]

17. Hell...I trust him and I would love to sit and have a beer with him.

Of course, I would throw it in his face, but that's another story.

I am on this board of Navy vets and we have been talking about the fourth amendment and shrubby's spying. There are two or three of us feel that Bush is a traitor and has violated his oath. Believe me, we are the minority. They all feel that "the end justifies the means" and that whatever shrub needs to do to keep us safe, he should be allowed to do it. One of the guys then had the nerve to call himself a patriot and asked me "why I wasn't for keeping our families safe"? I told him that he learned the political doublespeak well and that if being a patriot means ignoring the constituion then "thanks but no thanks."

If our so called leaders have to violate the constitution to protect our country, who is winning the war on terror? It doesn't appear to me to be us.

My two cents.