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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:00 PM
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This needs to be looked into
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 08:08 PM by MichaelHarris
Sorry if it's dupe:

Pregnant Teens Still on the Run

The Associated Press
Friday, January 19, 2007; 7:12 PM

AMERICAN FORK, Utah -- Three pregnant teens who police say overwhelmed the caretaker of a maternity home by hitting her with a frying pan and tying her up with power cords remained on the run Friday.

The New Hope Maternity Home, 30 miles south of Salt Lake City, is a place for struggling teens to learn about prenatal care, adoption and parenting skills. They are sent by their families to get them away from drugs or bad relationships.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/19/AR2007011901339.html

I say this because these kind of homes used to be prevalent in the days before legalized abortion. Young women were locked up until they gave birth and treated like puppy mills. No attacks on Religion here but alot of them were run by the Catholic Church. This one is suspect just because of the state it's in.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:13 PM
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1. Fetus Mills? n/t
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:19 PM
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2. Recently
I saw an Irish movie about these "Homes". These girls led horrible lives during their pregnancy. Truth be told parents used these places to hide their pregnant daughters. I would bet this "home" hates being in the news right now and it's up to us to find out what is really going on.

I can't imagine a parent sending a child away during such trying times. That's when a parent is needed most. Who are these people? Will Bill Oreilly get involved?
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:24 PM
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3. Wow....
:wtf:

These girls were apparently being held against their will....why else would they resort to "escaping" in such fashion. So what it the basis of their detention? Does the state incarcerate them? Do the parents have authority to have 15 and 16 year old held against their will? Are they forcing these young girls to give up their babies for adoption?

I thought such things were a thing of the past. Even-so, the ones I have read about the girls weren't held against their will (even though the mental coercion may make the questionable).

Very Interesting. Well maybe frightening.....

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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:33 PM
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4. gets weirder
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 08:41 PM by MichaelHarris
Moody said his wife is shaken but not seriously injured, Moody said tonight he is just worried about the girls well being. "The girls need to be taken care of, they've got children inside them, babies."

This incident has been particularly difficult for Moody and his wife they say they now plan on shutting down the home. "I think after this we've decided this is the end of it," said Moody.

http://www.inergizedigitalmedia.com/story.aspx?content_id=F5BCA892-3638-4441-9BF5-DAEF9413BA8F

Choking up, Spencer Moody told reporters Thursday, "We've had a lot of parents call us and thank us for giving their girls back the way they used to be. We haven't had one negative experience with a girl.
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_5043040

In one report, "We've decided this is the end of it" In the second one, "We haven't had one negative experience". If this was there first negative experience why end it? My guess, this is the first REPORTED
negative experience.


HOME FOR PREGNANT TEENS
(October 20, 2004) Spencer and Jana Moody, New Beginnings Maternity Home, Kanab, UT, 435-644-8648, [email protected], www.nbmaternityhome.com, announced the formation of their residential support facility that is specifically setup to assist programs who accept a new intake and then learn she is pregnant. Their goal is to help the girls get through their pregnancy with the possibility of returning to the original treatment program. The advantages listed indicate the referring program will receive a $500 referral fee for each placement, provides a service for parents, and parents may decide to continue with the original program after the birth. (This depends on whether the girl is adopting out or keeping the baby, etc.).
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2004/12/dec04newsviews.html

500 bucks if you can take kid away from home and send them to a "puppy mill"
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:51 PM
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6. You are fast!
plus, you found more than I did.

Here is the web page for New Hope...

http://www.newhopematernityhome.com/index.html
http://pregnantteenhome.com/Site/Home-1.html


What is interesting from your post is there are obviously two different facilities ran by the Moody's. Spanish Fork is nowhere near Kanab.

Here are some choice quotes from the web site(s):


Location.....Utah Valley, just North of Provo, Utah in the small community of American Fork. The benefit? In most cases, you need to act quickly to get your daughter out of her current situation and away from most of her friends. You don't want her to go where they will have access to contact her, and it is also a great benefit to be far away geographically. By taking her totally out of her environment into a new, safe and secure environment, she will be better able to start making better choices.




The young women receive attention and supervision from experienced and trained professionals who will give the young women a sense of structure and support. Supervision is provided twenty-four hours a day. Doctors and counselors are on call 24/7.



One of the strengths we hope the youth will acquire is a sense of structure and discipline. Required chores and an incentives and rewards system all help teens become more responsible.


Michael, I'm with you...if this is the first negative report why throw in the towel so easily?? It certainly does seem like with all the grand and glorious they wouldn't fold so easily.

What year is this??


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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:57 PM
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8. 1984
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 01:14 AM
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16. LOL
good one!!
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 12:26 AM
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12. LOL
I was trying to find out more but they just keep disappearing. One news website in Utah removed the whole story from it's site. I'm not a tin-foiler by any means but I once lived in Utah and God has a huge voice when it comes to censoring stuff.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 12:24 PM
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21. "Better able to start making Better Choices"
Sounds like choice is not even part of the mix.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 01:38 PM
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25. Under the circumstances, overpowering their guard and escaping was a better choice.
See? The program works!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 07:14 PM
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32. Ah, empowerment
methinks there should be a better option than a frying pan
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 11:29 PM
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11. Some real psycho shit here
"We've had a lot of parents call us and thank us for giving their girls back the way they used to be.

Why don't they just say the parents are grateful that the girls aren't pregnant anymore?

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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 12:34 PM
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22. Hell...aren't pregnant anymore....
I thought maybe they magically restored them to virgins.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:42 PM
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5. Weirder still
Their website is gone:
http://www.nbmaternityhome.com/

These people want to slink into the darkness.
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:53 PM
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7. I think that's the Kanab...
web site. Maybe they had a hmmmmm incident there and relocated to American Fork. So maybe now they will pull up stakes and go else where??? You are right pretty damn weird.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 11:17 PM
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9. Gone but not forgotten.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 11:20 PM
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10. "They are sent by their families to get them away from drugs or bad relationships."
That's the biggest line of bullshit I've ever heard in my life. I'm sure it's far more likely and accurate to be "They are sent by their families who want to force them into giving birth because they are anti-choice"
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 12:34 AM
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13. That
Edited on Sat Jan-20-07 12:34 AM by MichaelHarris
and they don't want anyone to know the girls are pregnant. It's Leave it to Beaver, 1950's America all over again. There is something sinister at work here, I hope someone can dig it out. These people said the girls were not held against their will and not locked in. So if you can just walk away why smack someone in the head with a frying pan? Wouldn't be easier to call a cab?

Not locked in my ass, these young women are prisoners force fed right-wing baby crap all day. Gitmo for pregnant children.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 12:41 AM
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14. Good Points.
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 01:14 AM
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15. I agree with you!
I've read the three web sites now and I notice they mention in more than one context the girls are supervised 24 hours a day. The staff accompanies them wherever they go (including when they go off-site to school). I don't think those girls are free to come and go as they please. It really makes you wonder what happened at the Kanab site.

I lived in SLC for a few years myself. What a culture shock!

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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 06:53 AM
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17. Michael, Perhaps I have discovered...
why "New Beginnings Maternity Home" became the "New Hope Maternity Home".

It seems that the "New Beginnings Maternity Home" was named as affiliated with WWASP.


Troubled Teen Programs - 25 Plaintiffs Join in Lawsuit Against WWASPS, Cross Creek Manor, Robert Lichfield, and Associates – More Expected to Join In

....snip

According to the Amended Complaint, every child named was subjected to multiple forms of child abuse over extended periods of time. While parents believed they had sent their children to programs that would provide them a proper education and, depending on the situation, help for their troubled child or teen, according to the Amended Complaint, some children were:


• Forced to eat their own vomit

• Kicked, beaten, thrown, and slammed to the ground

• Bound and tied by their hands/and or feet

• Chained and locked in dog cages

• Forced to stay in isolation for long periods of times

• Locked in small boxes or cages

• Locked in basements

• Forced to lie in or wear urine and feces as a method of punishment

• Forced to clean and scrub toilets and floors with their toothbrush and then use the toothbrush afterwards

• Forced to sleep on cold concrete floors, box springs, or plywood used as beds – some had no bed linens

• Forced to assume distorted and painful physical positions for long periods of time

• Forced to live in unsanitary living conditions

• Denied adequate food

• Denied even a minimally sufficient education

• Denied proper medical and dental treatment and care

• Exposed to extreme hot and cold temperatures for long periods of time

• Forced to exercise beyond their physical capacity

• Forced to carry heavy bags of sand or logs around their neck throughout the day over many days

• Sexually abused, including sexual relations and acts of fondling and masturbation performed on them

• Emotional abuse by subjecting children to near total parental and societal isolation; personal visits, correspondence, and telephone calls were either forbidden or discouraged

• Because of near-total isolation, these children were totally unequipped to enter outside society

• Forced to work many hours a day violating child labor laws

• Confiscated and/or kept students’ US mail

• Deprived from using the toilet, and as a result, urinated or defecated on themselves

• Verbally abused by lying that their parents knew what was happening to them and were supportive of it all

.... and there is more!!!

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=22096



I'm thinkin' just a small dose of the above would make one prone to hitting people over the head with a frying pan! It's also understandable how the owners might want to fold up shop fast once the spotlight was on them.......


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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 01:33 PM
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23. Whoa
Great find, I was looking for that kind of stuff but didn't find it. Wonder if there is a connection? If we could somehow tie this one to the other then there is a definite story.
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 03:09 PM
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28. Yes, absolutely there is a connection...
The Kanab "New Beginnings Maternity Home" which is named in the class action suit as an affiliate of the WWW (I can't remember the acronym) is/was owned by none other than Spencer & Jana Moody.

Spencer & Jana are the proprietors of American Fork's "New Hope Maternity Home".

I wonder if the "New Beginnings Maternity Home" is still in business. As you discovered the web site is down. I wonder if being included in the class action suit caused them to close down.

At the Kanab location, according to the city council meeting minutes there was to be a joint boarding home in addition to the maternity home.

I believe the Kanab location was to house no more than 25 "students" where as the American Fork Home had an eight bed restriction (I should always leave my sources up to fact check while authoring a post...don't know why I always forget). In other words, they downsized if they closed down the Kanab facility to open the American Fork.

Either way, there is a solid connection between all of the above.

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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 07:08 AM
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18. and then the Kanab City Council meeting...
where we can define contradiction.....


PUBLIC HEARING/CONSIDER REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR YOUTH HOME/ABUNDANT LIFE CHRISTIAN BOARDING SCHOOL AND NEW BEGINNING’S MATERNITY HOME FOR CRAIG ROGERS AND SPENCER MOODY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 220 WEST 300 NORTH, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE "OLD HOSPITAL":

...snip

Utah Risk Management informed the City that public clamor isn’t enough to deny this petition for a conditional use permit

...snip

He said there is no escort service. They don’t lock up the kids. The parents can use whatever means they choose to get them to the school. These kids are not criminals. They are kids who don’t get along with their parents and are rebelling against their Christian heritage. This is just a boarding school. They are not allowed to go out into the community without supervision. If they do, they will be expelled. Council Member Honey asked when the City asked Mr. Rogers to install a state-of-the art security system.

...snip

Based on the application and the representation of the applicant, students will not have acute mental health need, a history of violence or crime, oppositional defiance disorder or are in need of a psychological therapeutic treatment (including drug and alcohol treatment). 4. Based on the application and the representation of the applicant, Abundant Life Academy at Kanab, Inc., will install a state-of-the art security system, will provide 24-hour awake night security personnel as well as to hire a professional law enforcement officer who will fulfill the role of "Campus Police." 5. Periodic on site inspections will be conducted by Kanab City to insure that the minimum requirements of the conditional use permit are being met. 6. Based on the application and the representation of the applicant, students of the Abundant Life Academy shall be supervised by staff or adult family member when leaving campus or involved in off campus activities.

...snip

Get the full text and all the glaring contradictions here:

http://kanab.utah.gov/artman/publish/council/article_141.shtml

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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 01:38 PM
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24. That's
alot of security for girls who are supposed to free to come and go as the owners originally stated to the press. What was the quote? "They are not locked in their rooms" something like that.

We need some Utah Duers checking this out, there's something going on and this story needs some legs. You can bet these people hope they get to the girls before the police or press. They have a story to tell.
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:04 AM
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19. This IS weird! Good catch! n/t
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 11:12 AM
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20. yep, something smells in Utah.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 01:46 PM
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26. This is awful! Why isn't the FBI involved?
Kidnapping is a federal crime.

I hope these poor girls are OK. I can't imagine what they have been through. My stomach is in knots just thinking about it.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 01:49 PM
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27. An
earlier article mentioned a 17 year old being tied up. I may be wrong but if any of these girls are over 18 and don't want to be there then shouldn't it be a crime to hold them? It should be a crime to hold any of them against their will, I really hope we get to the truth.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 08:48 PM
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33. This is a WWASP facility. God help those poor girls.
The Worldwide Association of Specialty Programs (WWASP) is the outfit that runs the Tranquility Bay "special needs school" in Jamaica.

This place is a recurring theme at DU, along with the Bob Jones University rulebook and the "modest swimwear" that looks like a wetsuit. You new kids, listen close: if you want to start a nice 300-400 reply thread, just post the link to a story about Tranquility Bay and stand back. It's fun and easy.

Tranquility Bay is kinda like Camp X-ray at Gitmo except you don't get lemon chicken* at Tranquility Bay. You also get to lay face-down on the floor with your arms at your sides for six months or so if you fuck up a little bit.

Tranquility Bay, of which you can read more than you really want to by googling "Tranquility Bay Jamaica," works by having the parents give the prison camp 49 percent custody of their kid and releasing them from liability for any damage they may cause to the child.

They also tell the parents not to leave Tranquility Bay brochures around the house, put them in for passports or anything else that might suggest they're going on an exotic island adventure that could end with them in a pine box. You're supposed to let the Tranquility Bay goon squad into your kid's bedroom in the middle of the night. They wake Junior up, cast him into irons, drive him to the airport and fly him to Jamaica.

Oh yeah...they also charge you forty thousand dollars a year. Kidnapping and physically abusing children isn't just fun, it's profitable.


* When the initial allegations of prisoner abuse at Gitmo were coming out, one of Bush's minions--I think it was Alberto Gonzalez--held a press conference to tell the world how good we were treating the prisoners. They had Korans, they had a Muslim chaplain,and we were feeding them Deluxe Gourmet Meals, such as the lemon chicken and rice pilaf we served them that very day.
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 03:37 PM
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29. Ok...Michael....
see you've got me obsessing on this case...

Lot's of press out there today about the fugitive teenage runaways. I read over many of the articles and found them all nauseating.

The Moody's are portrayed as compassionate souls that only wants what best for those poor poor girls. The mention repeatedly that they have been in business (American Fork) for about three years, helped about 20 girls, all wonderful experiences, they have not a clue why these girls did this, and they are going to shut down.

Now they do go out on a limb and admit that most of the girls don't want to be there initially. They think these girls maybe just wanted to go home.

No where do they mention they have been in the business in Kanab. No where do they mention they have been associated within a class action law suit. They say they don't know how far along the girls pregnancies are (and they provide medical services???) and they will not release the names or pictures of the girls. The girls are from three different states.

Most of all....of all the articles in all those papers, not one, has tried to explain why the girls felt they had to escape. Not one has explored the Moody's history.

Here is one article but there are many (all very similar)

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_5043040


:wtf:
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 03:40 PM
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30. Yes, Florence Crittenden's home for unwed mothers
that is where I was sent. At 16 AFTER I was sent to reform school at 13-15...I guess my teen age years were not of middle america? Well I do live in the south after all! I have NO glory years.
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 04:08 PM
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31. I couldn't stand it.....(yes, obsessed)...
Here is the e-mail I wrote to the Salt Lake Tribune columnist.




Nate,

I find it a bit unsettling all of the news coverage regarding the fugitive teen runaways never seem to question the obvious. The girls apparently believe they were being held against their will. Why else would they make such a dramatic "escape"?

I found the account more than a little disturbing. Particularly since the profession journalists apparently are not interested in developing the actual story.

Yes, we see the Moody's portrayed as this compassion caring wonderful saints. They have helped 20 girls in three years, yet they are going to close it all down because of this one negative incident.

Obviously we can't rely on the professionals to flush out any mitigating factors I did a little checking on my own.

I notice what the Moody's didn't happen to articulate in their interviews is their previous, perhaps current, ownership of a similar facility in Kanab: New Beginnings Maternity Home. We most certainly didn't hear mention that the "New Beginnings Maternity Home" is named as an (alleged) affiliate in a class action lawsuit against WWASP for Child Abuse, Fraud, Breach of Contract, Conspiracy, Gross Negligence, RICO Violations, False Imprisonment, Assault, Battery, and More.

A very long list of alleged atrocities can be read here: http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=22096

I understand the teenagers will be charged with aggravated assault and kidnapping. I suppose the Moody's will find a new remote location for another New something or other maternity home where they can continue to bring God's will upon the wayward teens. Why not? Journalists aren't going to encumber them anyway.


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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:20 PM
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34. I'm sorry to have found this thread too late to vote it up on GP.
Edited on Sat Jan-20-07 09:21 PM by intheflow
The OP is interesting, but the stuff added by other posters is just as enlightening. The sentence that got me was "We've had a lot of parents call us and thank us for giving their girls back the way they used to be."
:wtf:
I was a pregnant teen, and I kept and raised my son. You don't go back to being the way you used to be after you have a child, nor should you. You're a parent, for God's sake. That changes the teen and the whole family dynamic, even if the child is given up for adoption.

That "rebelling against their Christian heritage" bit was pretty scary, too. Especially when combined with the whole "wanted to give them discipline" line.
:scared:



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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 11:49 PM
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35. This is very creepy and disturbing
Why haven't I ever heard about this?

Blue
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