Hillary, please put a halt to this dumb new seatbelt legislation proposed for NY state

[mtnsnake]

where starting this July seat belts will be mandatory on motorcycles, bicycles, and smaller pleasure boats.

This is going way too far. There have to be better ways for big corporations to make money than something like this. I often defend you on this board, so please do what you can to help us out. As the avid fisherman that I am, I just can't see the logic in buckling up in my boat whenever I'm on my way to a favorite fishing spot this summer.

This is crazy.

One other thing. The many members of my niece's mountain bike club strongly disapprove of future seat belt use being mandatory on their bikes, and these people pack a lot of political clout.

[LostinVA]

1. What? there's no way to put a seatbelt on a bike

[Auggie]

2. That's utterly ridiculous

[LynneSin]

3. Can we have a link

it just seems a little odd - I'd like to read about it

[LostinVA]

24. Agreed

[WinkyDink]

4. And the point of a bike belt would be...? If you're hit, a seat-belt won't really help AT ALL.

[Drifter]

88. Indeed ...

One the best things that can happen to you when you are in a motorcycle crash is to get away from the bike.
A seat belt on a motorcycle will increase fatalities dramatically.

I will bet this is a hoax

Cheers
Drifter

[WI_DEM]

5. if she does, will she get your vote for president?

:)

[mtnsnake]

13. I'm counting on her to put a halt to it, although it doesn't look good.

[LostinVA]

34. She can't -- this is a state legislative issue

[nadinbrzezinski]

80. You realize that a US Senator has little say

if at all with the State legislature... don't you?

[HereSince1628]

6. Hey, buckle up! Be a man and go down with your ship!!!!!!!!!

I had a relative seriously injured going through the windshield of a boat during a collison. In some circumstances you might wish for one, but I agree this is too far.


Next thing you know they'll insist mountain climbers carrier emergency transmitters!

[LynneSin]

7. I think this is a joke - I did a google on Hillary Clinton Seatbelts

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-39,GGLJ:en&q=Hillary+Clinton+Seatbelts

It came back with a bunch of bizarro website and anti-hillary sites. Heck one of the links had something about Hillary, Seatbelts and the 2nd coming of Christ.

[mtnsnake]

11. I guess if the new law works in NY, they're going to propose federal legislation

for the same.

I agree, Lynne. This new legislation is a joke, and I for one am NOT going to buckle up every time I go for a boat ride.

[LostinVA]

25. No, Lynne means this is a HOAX -- it's not real

[SaveElmer]

8. And why doesn't she do something about gum stuck under tables...

I mean what is grosser than being at a restaurant where people have stuck wads of gum under your table...Surely this problem has been going on long enough!!!

WHY THE SILENCE HILLARY?!?!?!?

[Neecy]

12. yeah!

And I wish she'd investigate (and condemn!) the high cost of getting my Pomeranians groomed. I can't believe she's been sitting on her hands all these years on this urgent (to me) issue.

WHERE DO YOU REALLY STAND, HILLARY? WHY AREN'T YOU ADDRESSING MY PET GROOMING ISSUES? WAKE UP!

[Bunny]

90. I'll stand with you in outrage at the high cost of pet grooming.

You would NOT believe what I pay to have my Pug's toenails clipped. $10.00!!! It's highway robbery, and I demand that Senator Clinton put a stop to it immediately. The fact that I live in Pennsylvania and she is not actually my Senator has little bearing on this.

WHY THE SILENCE, HILLARY???

[mtnsnake]

22. There's a reason for that, Elmer

There would be no money in it for big corporations, or you can bet your bottom dollar that anti-gum-sticking legislation would be proposed, too. I agree this gum thing is a problem, though, and needs to be addressed.

[SaveElmer]

On the contrary...the gum removal business is "HUGH""...check it out

http://www.chewinggumremover.com/catalog/




I am surprised the DLC isn't all over this...I mean there is money to be made...

Unless she is planning to outsource it...yeah that's it...it is all part of a secret DNC/PNAC plot to ship the massive and growing gum removal industry overseas!!!!!


DAMN YOU HILLARY!!!!!!

[mtnsnake]

39. It wouldn't surpise me if big companies like Bye Bye Gum are sponsored by the DLC

Thanks for posting that info, Elmer!

[SaveElmer]

41. Well it's this kind of info that needs to see the light of day...

Most folks aren't aware that the domestic gum-removal business is in this kind of jeapordy...

Hopefully this will wake a few people up!!!

[TechBear_Seattle]

9. She is a US senator

What kind of clout does she have with the state legislature?

[SmokingJacket]

Bingo. nt

[trumad]

10. I need a link

come on--how long have you been on DU...You know better.

[LostinVA]

26. There is no link

[wishlist]

14. Sounds like a false urban legend concocted to discredit Hillary and Spitzer n/t

[Captain Hilts]

15. She has nothing to do with this. Call Spitzer. nt

[bluescribbler]

16. Can she really do anything about it?

She's a US Senator. She has no say in Albany.

[mtnsnake]

18. Probably not. I heard it's the brain child of the previous Republican administration

but now that it's got so much momentum, it's going to be hard to stop.

[LostinVA]

27. So why mention Hillary in the OP then?

[mtnsnake]

29. Simple. I was asking for her help. nt

[LynneSin]

32. Sen. Clinton is NOT a NY State legislature. Your thread came off as an anti-Hillary slam

Not trying to be disrespectful to you, but we get too many posts about trivial things that supposedly are link to Hillary, Obama or any of the other potential democratic candidates (but especially the first 2).

Sen. Clinton is NOT part of the NY state legislature, she is a US Senator. If this issue is real then perhaps you should be petitioning your state senators & representatives or Gov. Spitzer. Perhaps the New York forum would be a better location for this thread

[LostinVA]

35. That's how I read it too, Lynne

[LostinVA]

33. But she's not a state legislator, so she can't

NY may even have a law blocking her from saying anything. It's a STATE issue only.

[seabeyond]

17. sounds outrageously stupid and not real. but if it is, dont you need to be

able to jump off and away from a bike on a fall? why would you want to be seat belted onto a bike? seems ludicrous and potential for harm elevated.

[mtnsnake]

20. The thing that worries me is what if a dog comes after you?

Usually when I'm out bike riding, if I can see the dog coming early enough, I usually only have a split second or two to get off the bike and climb a tree to avoid getting bit. Now I'm gonna have to climb the tree with the bike dangling below me from my seatbelt if I don't have time to unbuckle? I don't think so.

[seabeyond]

30. this is the stupidest thing in so many ways. i know i teach my boys

how to fall off a bike away from the bike to not tangle in it getting hurt worse. there goes that little trick. i am so friggin tired of these stupid stupid laws and being told the way we are to live. i can hardly believe that this is even serious. sounds so stupid

[Tellurian]

74. Well, the time is right for everyone to pitch in..

and buy an Island.

I've been looking. There are some pretty cheap ones out there.
No Rules in the Land (limited though it may be) of the (Totally) FREE!

[madrchsod]

19. i could`t find anything on google

link? hillary is a us senator she has nothing to do with this supposed new law

[Catherine Vincent]

21. She just may do that for you but you should refer to her as Senator Clinton,

It will get more attention. :)

[mtnsnake]

28. That's a good idea.

Plus I've heard rumors that Senator Clinton was an avid bike rider in her younger days as a hippie, so hopefully she'll do what she can to stick up for us little people who love using the outdoors without fear of mandatory physical restraints like seat belts.

[cynatnite]

36. Provide a link to back up your claim n/t

[LostinVA]

40. "As a hippie"???

Oh boy.

[Catherine Vincent]

43. I could see the Clinton's as former bike riders....

:)

[mtnsnake]

44. Awesome picture!

:hi:

[Catherine Vincent]

58. Awesome couple!

:hi:

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

23. Do you have a link to this info?

google was not much help

Thanks

[LynneSin]

31. That should be the first sign that this is all a Hoax

First, what does Sen. Clinton have to do with NY State politics. They have their own government to make those decisions. And second, if this was real - SOMETHING would have shown up from a reliable source (anti-hillary sites and conspiracy theory webpages do NOT count).

[Swamp Rat]

37. delete... this is likely anti-Hillary propaganda

I could not find a single link about legislation for seat belts on bicycles.

[LostinVA]

45. You got it

[Swamp Rat]

48. I did a few diffierent boolean Google searches, the last one using these modifiers:

- "Hillary Clinton" "seat belt" legislation 2007 -

I got mostly rightwing blogs and three articles, two by the 'WorldNutDaily,' and one by the 'Amerikkan Spectater.' :crazy:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36119
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36219
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=5992

[LostinVA]

49. Me too

[Swamp Rat]

57. I just did a seach of bills at the NY State Assembly.

None such bill exists as mentioned in the OP.

http://www.assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?by=k&qs=seat+belt

5 bills matched your search criteria:
A00104 Provides that no person seven years of age or over shall be a passenger in the back seat of a motor vehicle unless such person is restrained by a safety belt
A02472 Requires certain taxicabs to have child safety restraints
S00174 Provides that no person seven years of age or over shall be a passenger in the back seat of a motor vehicle unless such person is restrained by a safety belt
S00766 Requires school buses to be equipped with seat belts
S00984 Requires school buses to be equipped with seat belts

[LostinVA]

67. He says they're passing it "secretly"

Bwwwahhhhh

[Swamp Rat]

71. I guess the State of New York has a secret legislative body...

I don't have powers of divination, so I cannot tell.

[LostinVA]

84. Yup, the "stealth legislature"

[mtnsnake]

47. Not at all. I only asked for her help in repudiating this impending law

Geesh, I like Hillary.

[cynatnite]

50. And you have yet to provide a link backing up your claim n/t

[mtnsnake]

53. Just goes to show how they try to push this stuff through so secretly

If this law ever got leaked to the outside world before it got passed, people would be marching in the streets, or riding beltless in protest.

[cynatnite]

55. How do you know it's real or even exists?

There is nothing to show this is real since you have provided nothing to prove if it's true.

[Swamp Rat]

63. No such bill exists

http://www.assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?by=k&qs=seat+belt

5 bills matched your search criteria:

A00104 Provides that no person seven years of age or over shall be a passenger in the back seat of a motor vehicle unless such person is restrained by a safety belt
A02472 Requires certain taxicabs to have child safety restraints
S00174 Provides that no person seven years of age or over shall be a passenger in the back seat of a motor vehicle unless such person is restrained by a safety belt
S00766 Requires school buses to be equipped with seat belts
S00984 Requires school buses to be equipped with seat belts

[Pithlet]

65. Are you serious?

Please, Hillary, save us from some ridiculously over the top joke legislation that has no evidence of actually existing! Everyone, call Hillary Clinton RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!!!!!!!

[LostinVA]

66. Oh brother -- that's ILLEGAL

They aren't allowed to do that. Nice try.

[Swamp Rat]

54. Well, I do not care for Hillary, nor misinformation nor propaganda.

I could find NOTHING about legislation for bicycle seat belts after doing numerous boolean searches with modifiers like: legislation, bicycle, "seat belts," "New York"

Unless you provide a link to an official government source that discusses real legislative proposals, I cannot comment any further.

edit: No such bill exists.

http://www.assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?by=k&qs=seat+belt

5 bills matched your search criteria:
A00104 Provides that no person seven years of age or over shall be a passenger in the back seat of a motor vehicle unless such person is restrained by a safety belt
A02472 Requires certain taxicabs to have child safety restraints
S00174 Provides that no person seven years of age or over shall be a passenger in the back seat of a motor vehicle unless such person is restrained by a safety belt
S00766 Requires school buses to be equipped with seat belts
S00984 Requires school buses to be equipped with seat belts

[trof]

38. The word "gullible" is not in the dictionary.

You could look it up.

[mtnsnake]

42. I think if someone looks up a word while playing Boggle, they should be penalized

one point if the word is in the dictionary.

[Toucano]

46. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MOTORCYCLE SEAT BELT!

This is bullshit.

Do you realize how many times in this thread you have said, "I've heard..." and and offered no support for your statements?

Just cut it out! You're either amazingly gullible or deliberately misleading.

[LostinVA]

51. Yup

[Bridget Burke]

52. Show us a LINK to the impending legislation.

And leave Senator Clinton out of it.

[in_cog_ni_to]

56. A seatbelt on a MOTORCYCLE??? That's hysterical!

What brainiac came up with that one? OMG...:rofl::rofl::rofl:

A seatbelt on a boat is downright DANGEROUS! When I was 6 years old, my family was out on our boat. 4 kids with mom and dad. The boat tipped over and my sister was trapped underneath it, but had an airhole to breath until my dad could swim under to pull her out. The rest of us landed beyond the boat. All of us were ok, but if we had had on seatsbelts, surely we all would have drown! You can't expect a 4, 6, 10 and 11 year old kid to NOT PANIC in a situation like that. This law is not only STUPID, but dangerous!

[Beetwasher]

60. There Is No Law Being Proposed In NY, This Post Is Bullshit

n/t

[seabeyond]

62. gotta be a joke. just gotta be. oh lordy let it be a joke. too obvious the stupid n/t

[Beetwasher]

59. Are You Trolling, Trying To Make Some Sort Of Idiotic Point, Or Slamming Clinton?

Because this post is total bullshit. Either you are trying to make some sort of joke (and it's not a good one), or you're (badly) trying to make some sort of obtuse point, or you're trying to slam Clinton (also badly) or you're a troll.

There is no such law being proposed in NY. You are full of shit.

[mtnsnake]

73. Trolling is the most boring style of fishing going. I ususally drift fish or cast lures.

I rarely troll. Usually I'll take my boat to a "hotspot" in the lake or river and then drift, while bouncing a jig off bottom. There is no finesse in trolling. For anyone who doesn't know what trolling is, it's fishing while the boat is moving at a slow speed, pulling lures or bait behind the boat. There is very little skill involved when trolling, other than picking the right area and depth of water in which to troll.

In the evenings, I'll move closer to the shoreline and cast plugs toward the shore. Trolling just isn't for me.

[Beetwasher]

79. Is A Joke Really A Joke If No One Gets It or Think It's Funny?

:shrug:

[LostinVA]

85. I don't think it's supposed to be a joke

Notice the Google hits.

[mtnsnake]

87. You are right. Laws requiring seat belts on boats is not a joking matter

and I hope it doesn't go through, although I remember this one time I hit a wave from a ship when I wasn't looking and banged my head onto the windshield, so maybe in that one instance a seat belt would've helped, even though I only got a little bump out of it.

[Sapere aude]

61. Hillary is a US Senator not a New York congress critter, she has no power there.

This must be a joke thread.

[mtnsnake]

64. I guess I should've asked someone else to help thwart the law, then,

but I'm a fan of Hillary's so I thought I would've tried there first.

This must be a joke thread.

What would ever make you think that? :shrug:

[in_cog_ni_to]

69. Do you have a link so we can read it?

:hi:

[Bridget Burke]

70. Prove to us that such a law is being discussed.

Until you do, this is a joke thread. (A pretty bad joke, at that!)

[Jacobin]

68. WTF is this thread about except spreading baseless rumors?

Look, I have no love for Hillary, she's not my candidate, but dammit, trolling to pile shit on someone is just WRONG

[Matariki]

72. Is this a joke?

having a seatbelt on a motorcycle could KILL you.

[mtnsnake]

76. If you think it'll be dangerous for bikers, imagine how kayakers will feel

What if they don't go all the way around when they're doing one of their Eskimo Rolls in the water? I'd hate to think that they'd have to unbuckle their seat belt in order to free themselves from their capsized kayak, yikes.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

82. WHY ARE YOU STILL SPREADING THIS RW LIE? Seriously, what's your damage?

[atommom]

75. This sounds like a post from >>>>> OVER THERE.

Someone is stirring the shit to advance their own agenda.

[LostinVA]

86. Yup

[bullwinkle428]

77. This has got to be the dumbest thread I've seen posted here since...

...well, okay, I vaguely recall something about "douchebags" the other day?

:shrug:

:hide:

:evilgrin:

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

78. So what are you sayin'?

That douchebags need seatbelts? Or motorcycles and bicycles need douchebags?

You don' think this thread is Sirius?

[nadinbrzezinski]

81. Now can we get a link or is this a BS story?

And even with link, what part of state legislature (assuming this is true) cannot be truly influenced by a US Senator are you missing?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

83. It's absolute BS. The NYS legislature has NO bills about this.

It's been mentioned on a few RW anti-Hillary blogs and that's it. I can't believe this thread is still up.

[mtnsnake]

89. I've never seen it mentioned on any blogs what so ever.

It's been mentioned on a few RW anti-Hillary blogs and that's it.

You sure about that? Can you point us to such blogs?

[LostinVA]

91. The poster doesn't need to prove YOUR negative

Give it up.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

92. Yes I am. In fact, they're linked elsewhere in this thread.

Why can't YOU post a *single* reputable link to back up your BULLSHIT?

[mtnsnake]

93. Well, if they are, then how about pointing us to the posts

If they're right here in this thread, then show me the way!

The only links I saw when I reviewed this thread are just links leading to plain old anti-Hillary sites, but they don't associate her with being involved with what we're talking about here.

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

94. I'm going to lock this.

Without a link it appears to be a hoax & has turned into flames.

best,
wakemeupwhenitsover
DU Moderator