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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:12 AM
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Juan Cole: Did the U.S. just provoke Iran?
Jan. 12, 2007 | For months, rumors of war between the United States and Iran have been building. Many fear that President Bush is spoiling for a fight, and they've begun to interpret various developments in the region as the run-up to an attack on Tehran. A report in the British press about a possible Israeli raid on Iran's nuclear facilities quickly became linked with predictions about coordinated action with the United States. Observers on all sides, left, right and other, convinced themselves that the appointment of Adm. William Fallon to oversee military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan meant there would soon be Tomahawk missiles, if not U.S. soldiers, crossing the border into Iran.

President Bush's speech on Wednesday night only stoked such speculation. Bush paid lip service to the Iraq Study Group report, but cast aside its advice that he negotiate with Iran and Syria. Instead, he rattled sabers at Iran with some ferocity, accusing it of arming insurgents in Iraq and threatening it with international isolation. He attempted to rally his Sunni Arab allies, such as Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, in this effort. He said, "We will disrupt the attacks on our forces. We'll interrupt the flow of support from Iran and Syria. And we will seek out and destroy the networks providing advanced weaponry and training to our enemies in Iraq." He announced that he would position another aircraft-carrier battle group in the Persian Gulf and would deploy Patriot antimissile batteries.

Then Thursday came a U.S. raid on an Iranian consulate in the Iraqi Kurdish city of Irbil. By the end of the day, rumors of war with Iran had spread to normally cautious corners of the Internet. The Washington Note wondered aloud if Bush had issued an executive order to commence military action against Iran and Syria. Was the raid a deliberate provocation and the preface to war?

An eyewitness report briefly posted in Arabic to the Web site of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan reported that two U.S. helicopters hovered near the building for a quarter of an hour early Thursday morning, then dropped off several soldiers. They approached the consulate and used megaphones to demand that those within surrender. They then tossed stun grenades inside before attacking it and detaining five persons within, three of whom were Iranians. The U.S. soldiers confiscated computers and records from the building. According to the Associated Press, U.S. troops also hurried to the Irbil airport in hopes of detaining persons suspected of trying to flee the country.

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http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/01/12/iran/

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:24 AM
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1. "without presenting any evidence"!!!
I wonder if the Democrats have noticed that they are being lied to. I heard Gen. Pace say this same shit yeaterday in front of the armed services committee. It seems like congress takes him at his word instead of asking for the evidence.....

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But if Bush were to escalate the regional conflict and try to involve Iran, the assault on the Iranian consulate in Irbil suggests the ways in which he would justify his actions. He and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice have begun speaking, without presenting any evidence, of Iranian aid to groups killing U.S. troops in Iraq -- hence the reference to "networks" in his Wednesday speech. The difficulties faced by the U.S. military occupation of Iraq itself may well be made the pretext for aggressive action against Iran.

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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:38 AM
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2. Raiding embassies and consulates is an act of war.
My hope is that Iran does not rise to the bait but finds another way to confront the war monger. Maybe they should put their case before the world court or the UN.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:21 AM
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5. I recall a report put out Nov. by the military saying NO evidence
had been found that it was Iran. sure wish I could find it.

But if Bush were to escalate the regional conflict and try to involve Iran, the assault on the Iranian consulate in Irbil suggests the ways in which he would justify his actions. He and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice have begun speaking, without presenting any evidence, of Iranian aid to groups killing U.S. troops in Iraq -- hence the reference to "networks" in his Wednesday speech. The difficulties faced by the U.S. military occupation of Iraq itself may well be made the pretext for aggressive action against Iran.

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:03 PM
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7. This one?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/03/AR2006100301577_pf.html

British Find No Evidence Of Arms Traffic From Iran
Troops in Southeast Iraq Test U.S. Claim of Aid for Militias

By Ellen Knickmeyer
Wednesday, October 4, 2006; A21

ON THE IRAQ-IRAN BORDER -- Since late August, British commandos in the deserts of far southeastern Iraq have been testing one of the most serious charges leveled by the United States against Iran: that Iran is secretly supplying weapons, parts, funding and training for attacks on U.S.-led forces in Iraq. . . .

"I suspect there's nothing out there," the commander, Lt. Col. David Labouchere, said last month, speaking at an overnight camp near the border. "And I intend to prove it."

Other senior British military leaders spoke as explicitly in interviews over the previous two months. Britain, whose forces have had responsibility for security in southeastern Iraq since the war began, has found nothing to support the Americans' contention that Iran is providing weapons and training in Iraq, several senior military officials said.

"I have not myself seen any evidence -- and I don't think any evidence exists -- of government-supported or instigated" armed support on Iran's part in Iraq, British Defense Secretary Des Browne said in an interview in Baghdad in late August.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:16 AM
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3. more. says here that Bush is


In escalating a confrontation with Iran, Bush is placating his friends in Sunni-dominated states. On Thursday, the Saudi-backed London daily Al-Hayat ("Life") reported that Bush called Saudi King Abdullah to discuss security issues with him, and described the measures to be taken in Baghdad. Saudi officials have on several occasions expressed alarm about increasing Iranian influence over Iraq. Sunni Arab allies of the U.S. such as Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt have taken the lead in asking that Bush not withdraw precipitately from Iraq and not acquiesce in growing Iranian influence and power in the region. In return, the Bush administration is pressuring the kingdom to help rein in rebellious Iraqi Sunni Arabs.

Speaking in Provo, Utah, on Thursday, Saudi ambassador to Washington Prince Turki al-Faisal seemed to endorse Bush's plan, saying, Saudi Arabia "has always maintained that since America came into Iraq uninvited, it should not leave uninvited ... For America to pack up now and leave would be very detrimental and something that would be unacceptable to our part of the world."

The anti-Iranian passages of Bush's speech seem to have pleased Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak as well. Al-Sharq Al-Awsat ("the Middle East"), a pan-Arab London daily, reported that Mubarak warned on Thursday against a deep cleavage in the region, which he said would harm the Middle East and the whole world. He accused the Iranians of seeking support in the region. He called on "all to keep their hands off Iraq," urging that the dangers of a sectarian or ethnic war be recognized. He predicted that the situation in Iraq would deteriorate after the "barbaric" way in which former dictator Saddam Hussein was executed. Iran had welcomed the execution of its old enemy.

Next page: The Kurdish soldiers came very close to firing on American troops

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:18 AM
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4. k
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:47 AM
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6. Political solution required - get all of these countries talking so that
even Saudi Arabia will see the wisdom of the US getting out ASAP. There are, and will continue to be, Middle Easterners on the U.S. or global corporate payroll who will say that we should stay for decades - and they are to be ignored. Only multi-lateral talks will calm the legitimate concerns of neighboring nations.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:27 PM
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8. Excellent salient & cogent points. IndyOp.
If the ME is framed by saying further destabilization or a regional war, could result in a nuclear exchange, in essense, destroying the ME, it might behoove ME countries to find an alternative.

SImilar to the Cold War, USA vs USSR, a nuclear exchange would result in MAD. Once you start thinking that MAD applies, cooler heads will prevail.

Even Nixon negoitiated with his main strategic opponents, China & the USSR.
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