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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:40 AM
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Senate Armed Services Cmte hearing on CSPAN 3
http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

Just an FYI. Levin Q&A on now--We're in the same situation now that we were then. Promises promises with no consequences
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:43 AM
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1. Now McCain's up
Asking if we'll know in two months. Gates is taking another softball. :(
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:50 AM
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2. Dam I just don't get John this is Vietnam all over again
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:52 AM
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4. He wants to be Prez sooooo bad. Kennedy up now
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:51 AM
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3. Does McCain really believe this is going to work
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 10:51 AM by lancdem
or is he just doing this to suck up to the wingnuts who still support the war, hoping to get their primary votes?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:53 AM
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5. No, he doesn't. He's calling for MORE, MORE, MORE!
That way he can go on the campaign trail saying they didn't listen to him and that's why they failed.

Yes, folks! John McCain wants the US to fail.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:58 AM
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6. I've read elsewhere that he didn't expect Bush
to adopt escalation; he was planning to campaign by saying, "They didn't try it my way, and looked what happened." Now he has to out-Bush Bush, I guess.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:59 AM
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7. Dam I wish Ted was harder on him
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:04 AM
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8. I think the fact that it's Gates and not Rice
makes a difference. He's not complicit in the mess the way she is, because he just came on board.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:11 AM
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9. uh-oh...Pace: We have no need to cross the Iranian border
(Especially when we can lob missiles in from aircraft carriers)

Warner lecturing them pretty sternly about not getting in the middle of sectarian violence.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:11 AM
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10. Oh, goody. Lieberman up now.
Excuse me while I :puke:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:13 AM
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12. "I support the President's plan. I think that those who don't support
his plan have an obligation to offer a plan of their own."

UGH! Do these people ever listen??? REDEPLOYMENT YOU FUCKWIT!!!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:26 AM
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15. Something is very amiss here
A Democrat from a heavily Democratic state is supporting a disastrous plan put forward by a president with approval ratings in the low 30s. I wonder if Holy Joe feels he owes the WH for "helping" him win in CT. Otherwise, he's just totally off his rocker.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:50 AM
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43. He's giving him a pass on Katrina too!!!!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:11 AM
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11. Oh I do not trust Lieberman at all he has kissed bush's ass many
times just like McCain. What a kiss up. Joe can shut the fuck up, we have a plan to get out that is the plan.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:15 AM
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13. Lieberman: "Consider the alternative plan to stop funding"
Wait a minute! He just said critics haven't offered alternative plans. :crazy:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:23 AM
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14. Joe can go to hell, who is this talking now?
and we do have a plan TO GET OUT.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:29 AM
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16. you go, Senator Byrd, and get a kleenex for your nose!!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:29 AM
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17. Senator Byrd is up now
He seems to have a bad cold. His nose is giving him trouble. (Stay healthy,Robert!!)
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:30 AM
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19. I hope he got his flu shot!!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:30 AM
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18. He's quoting the ISG report. .
Pres is not acknowledging the new reality on the ground
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:32 AM
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20. Gates said there's actually 6 wars in Baghdad now. .
Sunni vs Shia, Sunny vs Sunni, Shia vs Shia.. dragging in Hezbollah, Iranian, Syria, Al-Qauida etc
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:32 AM
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21. Gates we are fighting 4 wars in Iraq ???
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:33 AM
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22. "Any military action against Iran should be last resort"
But now pres seems to have placed diplomacy on back burner... AGAIN

Asks what is this Iran talk
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:33 AM
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23. Byrd is giving it to them
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 11:35 AM by alyce douglas
Gates and Pace are liars too. They are part of the game, last resort, going into Iran will be the last resort they said the same thing on Iraq.

Talking about Somalia, these Senate Committee Members will realize they unleashed a madman.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:34 AM
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24. Gates dancing around question about "Will we cross the border?
He said.. "no need to cross border". .

(they said the same about Cambodia IIRC)
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:35 AM
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25. What was authority for Somalia air strikes?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:36 AM
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28. Whoa!!! He's nailing them on that one!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:38 AM
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32. yea who are those intelligence members who gave the authority
for this, we have four wars going on Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan and hopefully not Iran.

Who is this talking?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:42 AM
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37. Oh, no. It's only one war.
Global, but still only one. That's why you don't/won't hear Bush say the words "War in Iraq". He always says the "War on Terror".

Not what we signed up for or what Congress authorized; but they've let him get away with it.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:35 AM
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26. "an order a couple of years ago.."
was "sufficient" for Pace
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:36 AM
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27. Byrd asking about what authority the US military had to take military action in Somalia
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:38 AM
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33. Pace turned white as a sheet! Notice that the 'proper members'
of Congress were briefed when Rummy was there? So, before the beginning of November!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:36 AM
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29. didnt Gates say he didnt know much about Iraq yesterday?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:36 AM
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30. Byrd asks who was breifed. .
Pace will "look it up"
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:39 AM
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34. It was likely only Cons, too!
It happened while Rummy was still there!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:01 PM
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47. I hope someone follows up with this line of questioning. It was wonderful that Byrd brought it up!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:37 AM
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31. Sessions up now.. I am taking a break
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:40 AM
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36. thanks for keeping the notes here for those missing this....
appreciated. (well earned break btw)..
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:44 AM
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39. Thanks, Anna! You deserve it
I've had it on and listening, but abandoned the thread because it didn't seem to be generating any interest. Thank you!
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:40 AM
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35. Softball time Jeff will never grow up
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:43 AM
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38. Dam Pace is a Jarhead all the way I am not kidding this time
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:45 AM
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40. What a air head Jeff said Iraq is not a loss cause
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:46 AM
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41. My Senator Reed is up is he not for this escalation. I called his
office yesterday.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:50 AM
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42. this is such BS we just need to get out. Gates and Pace
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 11:56 AM by alyce douglas
are Bush's Yes men. Tis is all so wrong, these troops need to get out.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:53 AM
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44. did I just hear Kurds are going to be going to Baghdad?
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:54 AM
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45. I heard that crap
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:57 AM
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46. this is such BS.
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