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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:57 AM
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Sibel Edmonds and the NSWBC are asking for your help
Edited on Thu Jan-11-07 12:00 PM by lukery
Sibel Edmonds' group, the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC), is holding a fundraiser.

With the Democrats taking over Congress, we have a great opportunity to understand what the hell happened these last 6 years and to punish those responsible. We also have a opportunity to make sure that things don't get any worse.

But this won't happen by magic. We need whistleblowers, and whistleblowers need NSWBC, and the NSWBC needs our help. You can donate here.

Being a whistleblower sucks. A recent USA Today article described it thusly:
Even advocates have begun to dissuade some government employees from coming forward.

"When I get calls from people thinking of blowing the whistle, I tell them 'Don't do it,'" says William Weaver, a professor at the University of Texas at El Paso and a senior adviser to the National Security whistle-blowers Coalition. "Most of the time they go ahead and do it anyway and end up with their lives destroyed."

Those who come forward often face harassment, investigation, character assassination and firing — not to mention the toll their whistle-blowing takes on their families.

The reason, I presume, that most whistleblowers "go ahead and do it anyway" is because they feel it's their patriotic duty to do so, and they feel that fixing a particular problem is worth the cost.

Unfortunately, I presume that the reason Weaver often counsels against blowing the whistle is because more often than not, the problem doesn't get fixed. Congress doesn't hold hearings, and the perpetrators aren't held accountable. Nothing happens - except the retaliation, resulting in the destruction of the whistleblower's career, their family, and their sanity. It's all pain, with no gain.

That's why we, and the whistle-blowers, need the NSWBC. Among other things, the NSWBC helps mitigate the 'pain' and helps maximize the likelihood, and the magnitude, of the 'gain.'

The NSWBC helps maximize the gain by publicizing cases, assisting whistle-blowers in 'packaging' their cases and 'lobbying' Congress to open investigations and hold oversight hearings etc.

And the NSWBC is helping to minimize the pain of whistleblowing by pushing for new legislation. The NSWBC has drafted the "first ever meaningful whistleblowers’ protection model bill" and already has two congressional offices sponsoring the bill. The new year will see a new push to get this legislation passed - starting with a petition drive at the end of January (I'll post the details as soon as they become available.)

We're all looking forward to Henry Waxman and John Conyers and others holding hearings in 2007 - investigating the Iraq war, the illegal spying, and a long list of other crimes. Imagine how much more explosive, and effective, these hearing will be if whistleblowers feel comfortable, and protected, in coming forward. We'd have more whistleblowers, they'd be more forthcoming, and they'll be treated appropriately. That's why we need the Dems to pass the whistle-blower protection bill, and soon. And that's why we need the NSWBC. And that's why we should support them.

NSWBC already has an amazing list of members - among them, Daniel Ellsberg, Larry Johnson, Karen Kwiatkowski, Ray McGovern, Russ Tice, Robert Wright, and of course, Sibel Edmonds - with an average of over 20 years experience working to keep the country safe. Imagine how many other would-be whistleblowers there are out there, imagine how much more we could learn from them, and imagine how much safer we'd all be if we could entice more whistleblowers.

We will be safer, and we will have more accoutability, if we can change the pain/gain equation for whistleblowers. That's why we need the NSWBC. And that's why we should support them. Do you agree?

Sibel describes how the funds will be used thusly:
Now, we are entering a new stage. For this stage we need resources to help us move forward. We need resources in getting help with research and legislative initiatives. We need resources to review all whistleblower applicants’ cases. We need resources for necessary travel and conference meetings. We need resources for the expansion of our website and publications.
We need your help to do this.

Please help us by donating to our collective cause, by informing all your friends, family members and supporters and asking for their support and donations. Here is the link:

www.nswbc.org/donation.htm

Please send this link to everyone you know, and ask them to support whistleblowers. Enable us to get our voices heard.

If you'd like to help Sibel, and the NSWBC, and all of us, you can donate here.

(and as I mentioned, there'll be another chance to help at the end of January - with the petition to Congress to pass the whistleblower protection legislation.)
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 12:33 PM
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1. dkos thread
over here
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/11/22642/8347

if you want to rec for sibel
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 12:33 PM
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2. K&R for these brave people.
Defending the Constitution from all enemies, foreign AND domestic.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 01:55 PM
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7. domestic
it's hard to imagine - but it seems like the domestic enemies are some of the worst.
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randyconspiracybuff Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 12:35 PM
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3. Excellent! I Just Made My Donation
With NSWBC, I think a little money will go a long way. It is amazing how Sibel and the other whistleblowers have gotten in the face of the Congresspersons involved- and continue to fight, no matter how many obstacles they face.

I'm confident they can help push through some meaningful legislation. And if Bush vetoes it, we'll just have to remove him from office, won't we?
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 01:06 PM
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6. they sure are tough
thnx randy.

they'll need our help again at the end of january to build support for the legislation
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randyconspiracybuff Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 12:48 PM
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4. This Group Is Relying on Individual Donations
A concept which makes fundraising more difficult but helps insure the group will not lose its militancy (yes, a bit of militancy is very good nowadays).

Unfortunately, when an organization takes money from the big foundations, it can lose sight of its mission, and instead bend over backwards to please the big donors, some of which would demand the organization tone down its mission.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 01:00 PM
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5. great point
also - by not being beholden to anyone, the NSWBC can turn it's guns to anyone who deserves it.
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ftr23532 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 02:49 PM
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8. K&R!
Empowering folks like Sibel Edmonds is one of the most effective ways to stop the madness of our world. :kick:
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:03 PM
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9. legislation
thnx ftr - if we can get this legislation passed, the world will look just a teensy bit better.
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ftr23532 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 10:45 PM
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29. A rather bad analogy might be...
...If you're strapped to a chair and gagged, and manage to get the gag out of the way: your situation still sucks but at least you can yell for help now! :woohoo:
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:43 PM
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30. you're correct
that was a rather bad analogy ;-)

the model legislation in the house (?) is called "The Paul Revere Act"
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ftr23532 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:25 AM
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31. lol, I knew it was bad when I was typing it
I think watching Dear Leader and his buddies use their executive powers to take this country hostage is triggering too much dark imagery in me noggin'.

Paul Revere, OTOH, is definitely an image worthy of this nation's whistleblowers. :patriot:
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:26 AM
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33. why not the Sybil...
Luddington Act. Not that too many folk would know who she is, but she rode just as hard and warned just as many as Paul, but in the opposite direction. Besides, her name is Sybil!

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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:17 PM
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10. profiles of courage
professor reardon:
"In this month's Harvard Business Review I describe the courage calculation - essentially how those anticipating bold moves in any walk of life estimate their preparedness based on experience, clarity and importance of their goals, extent of power on all sides, risks versus benefits, timing appropriateness and quality of back-up contingency plans.

[]

Courage is about doing what is right in the face of extraordinary but also examined risk. It's a response to exigency, a calculated rise to meet a real, not self-serving, contrived threat -- a reaching down into one's heart and soul often in the face of fear to do the right thing. It's a willingness to put oneself and one's children in harms way rather than only others and their children. True courage has nothing to do with wearing jackets that say "Commander-in-Chief" but rather acting as if one deserves to do so."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathleen-reardon/kennedys-call-for-courag_b_38239.html

That sounds like the folks at NSWBC
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:25 PM
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11. Support your local whistleblower/truthtellers!
Telling the Truth & Paying the Price: Jesselyn Radack's Story
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/reprehensor/23
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whyzayker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:34 PM
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12. If you have a web site/blog etc.
Post the link - get the word out!

If you have visions of orange jumpsuits dancing in your heads, here's one of the first steps to making that a reality. $10, $20 or more or less - whatever you can do. If there's anything we've proven over the years, it's the power of the grassroots. get the word out and keep this kicked WAY up high!
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:12 PM
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13. Will definitely pass it on. n/t
Edited on Thu Jan-11-07 04:12 PM by reprehensor
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whyzayker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:12 PM
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14. 30 minutes later....
...and this almost fell off the front page.

C'mon! We're talkin'jumpsuits here!
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:23 PM
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15. it's at my place :-)
thnx whyzayker. it'd be great to get this posted everywhere.
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whyzayker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:40 PM
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16. Mine too.
http://www.wdavidjenkins3.com/

C'mon, kids!! We're talkin'
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 05:03 PM
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17. how can we
thnx

how can we get it posted at more places?
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whyzayker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 06:42 AM
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32. I'm sending the link out to my mailing list
We could also post it on the IMC web sites.

Oh yeah....kick!
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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 05:34 PM
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18. Time for another K & R /eom
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 05:44 PM
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19. I'll kick in a few bucks
and give the thread a kick. :0
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 05:45 PM
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20. I can kick it, anyway. - n/t
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 06:22 PM
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21. K&R!
Thank you so much lukery! I contacted Waxman last night and Conyers today. I told them I wanted hearings.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 07:05 PM
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22. great work Independent_Liberal
what sort of response did you get from them?
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 10:17 PM
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27. I emailed them. Since I'm not a constituent of either of them, I probably won't get a response.
Edited on Thu Jan-11-07 10:40 PM by Independent_Liberal
But I made it clear that there needs to be investigations and hearings with sworn testimony.
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LeeB Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 05:28 PM
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34. About that pesky 'constituency' issue . . .
Have you considered sending them your request via the chief of staff at their respective committees? We are ALL members of the larger constituency they serve in their respective positions as committee chairmen. That staff information with phone, fax, and street address is available at Congress.org.

If you choose to mail a letter, address it using the committee chair title and send it to their main District office, but fax it to the Committee office so they get it right away. I'm told that if faxing a letter, they also want to receive a hard copy and sending it to their main district office gets around the ongoing delay of mail inspections in D.C.
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LeeB Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 08:21 PM
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23. Waxman and Conyers . . .
WooHoo!! I hope they come on board. :-)
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 08:24 PM
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24. LeeB!
Good to see you.

You're nearly at 50 posts! (i think yuo can start reccing when you hit 50?)
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LeeB Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:17 PM
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25. 50? HA! I've been lurking here sooOoo long . . .
I forgot all about that!
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:40 PM
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26. one step closer
how long have you been here now?
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LeeB Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 10:38 PM
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28. I had to go look me up! . . .
I've been a lurker since shortly after the site was launched and a registered member since January 2005.
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ftr23532 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 05:48 PM
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35. I just noticed FBI Agent Robert Wright is on that list too
Be sure to read http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/a-vulgar-betrayal/1402/">this article on the ironically named "Operation Vulgar Betrayal" that he blew the whistle on. Also note that Frances Townsend, the FBI official that was preventing Wright and others from investigating folks like Ptech financier Yassin al-Kadi, http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/a-vulgar-betrayal/1402/">is now Bush's counter-terrorism czar. :-)
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