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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:48 AM
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Caligula "I don't care that they hate me as long as they fear me"
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 08:10 AM by Toots
Bush* "We would rather be feared than loved"
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:49 AM
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1. Caligula?
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:53 AM
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2. Caligula
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 07:54 AM by demnan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caligula

On edit: It's a wonder Bush doesn't try to appoint Barney to the cabinet.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:56 AM
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3. No, IMO Caligula's ignorant and self-absorbed little brother.
I'm twice as frightened because Dear Leader is NOT all that bright. At least those sociopaths who hover around the Genius IQ level WIN sometimes. This will be nothing more than a bloodbath with our troops serving as the main shooting gallery in-between the waring factions. This is wrong. :(
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:19 AM
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9. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
:rofl:
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:30 AM
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11. The portrait bust in the Wikipedia article...
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 09:38 AM by TechBear_Seattle
bears a striking resemblance to Malcolm McDowell. Has anyone else seek Caligula?

Edited to fix link
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:36 AM
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12. I have that movie
and it is nothing but porn.

I was sorely disappointed.

Then Aristus turned me onto "I, Claudius", which I bought off E-Bay: http://www.historyinfilm.com/claudius/
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:57 PM
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14. I know who Caligula was. I wasn't sure about Caligua.
But I see you corrected the typo.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:10 AM
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4. "Oderint dum metuant"
:evilfrown:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:17 AM
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5. That's kind of sad, because it's true
Anyway I'd rather be respected than loved but being both would be nice too.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:19 AM
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10. Bryant
I love and respect you :)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:21 AM
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SteveC Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:17 AM
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7. Caligula or the average Joe?
Bush would rather be feared by his enemy, than loved by his enemy. That is generally true of everyone who seeks power, even liberals.
Power really does corrupt people's minds. Domination is seen as easier than negotiation.

Eventually, however, the fear wears off, and then the negotiation is more difficult because people don't want just respect anymore, then they want revenge. Revenge masquerades as "justice" and the circle begins again. No peace, just perpetual revenge, and the victors give glory to the person who led the charge of revenge, poisoning the minds of the next generation. That is why all political parties and nations have their original heroes, who tend to be generals, not peacemakers.

In our Orwellian world, we call soldiers peacemakers and peacemakers troublemakers. Liberals will send soldiers to Darfur but not Iraq. Conservatives will send soldiers to Iraq but not Darfur. Both try to use violence and fear to create obedience. Power works for a short while, but the hypocrisy of power eventually reveals itself and it becomes ineffective. The ends cannot justify the means. Peace can only be accomplished through love and forgiveness, not hate and revenge. (fear) All authority is hypocritical. Peace can only be accomplished through consensus and all people being equal. Since the Constitution re-created the hierarchal structure that was overthrown, we are experiencing all the same habits of Empire. The appetite for power grows incrementally until it is an obese monster. Bush is not the ugly American, we all are. As Pogo said: We have met the enemy, and he is us.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:18 AM
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8. B*shigula? Caligu*sh?
you say tomato...
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:37 AM
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13. Little boots
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