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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:53 AM
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NYT: Rice made the 11th hour decision to hand over Saddam to Iraqi gov't

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/07/world/middleeast/07ticktock.html?pagewanted=4&ei=5087%0A&em&en=66f6d73072304460&ex=1168318800

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Senior Bush administration officials in Washington said that Mr. Khalilzad’s principal contact in Washington was Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and that she gave the green light for Mr. Hussein to be turned over, despite the reservations of the military commanders in Baghdad. One official said that Ms. Rice was supported in that view by Stephen J. Hadley, Mr. Bush’s national security adviser.

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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:54 AM
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1. Heck of a job, Brownie!
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SweetGrass Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:38 AM
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13. Ummm...
"Brownie"?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:55 AM
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2. throwing Condi under the bus, eh?
:rofl:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:55 AM
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3. That is my read as well
After all this has been a complete mess
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:36 AM
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12. You know this bus may have to come in for service...
lots of people being thrown under it lately.
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rknryd Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:50 AM
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21. Must be a lot of dings and dents accumulating
on that buses oil pan. It's hard on em ya know:evilgrin: Eventually they start leaking.
BWAhahahahahaha
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 08:12 AM
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31. Yep.
I hope she was wearing a helmet.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:56 AM
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4. Leaked to get rid of Rice....
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:57 AM
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5. more proof Ms. Rice is way, WAY overrated
I think she is downright incompetent as Secretary of State but she certainly excels at her primary function: bush whore
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:09 AM
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7. Is she goes who will comfort bush and take him to the
BATHROOM???
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:08 AM
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6. She is such a fucking piece of shit!!!!!!!!!!
I really hope they are all replaced soon
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:16 AM
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8. Back to Stanford, Dr. Rice
And since she doesn't have a family to spend more time with, I'm guessing that she will be collecting board memberships for the rest of her life. So long, Secretary of Stinkeye.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:48 AM
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17. Stanford would never take her back....
They are embarrassed by her incompetence..
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 06:35 AM
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25. as a provost you are right... but I bet she'd back at the Hoover Inst
in a heartbeat.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:18 AM
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9. Oh no, we're not getting rid of Condi, she's doing a bang-up job!
(That's the neo-con kiss of death if you haven't figured it out yet. You know "heckuva job brownie" and "Rumsfeld is doing a 'fine job'.)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:27 AM
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10. A little more from the article:
It is a story, too, of the Americans disagreeing among themselves. After a final call to Mr. Maliki at 10:30 p.m. Friday, American and Iraqi officials said, Mr. Khalilzad concluded that there was no prospect of persuading the Iraqis to delay the execution and passed that message to Washington. The conclusion found little favor with the military, who were the ones who had to transport Mr. Hussein to the gallows.

For General Casey and Mr. Khalilzad, close partners here, the messy ending for Mr. Hussein was made worse by the confirmation this week that Mr. Bush will soon replace both men as he refashions his Iraq war policy.

There were disputes among the Iraqis as well. At least one senior judge from the tribunal that sentenced Mr. Hussein to die, and three American lawyers who worked closely with the Iraqis at his trials, fought their own rearguard battle, telling fellow Iraqis how surprised they were that he received the death sentence in the narrow case that produced it — the “systematic persecution” of Dujail, a small Shiite town north of Baghdad, after an alleged assassination attempt against Mr. Hussein there in 1982.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:35 AM
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11. is there ANYTHING bush will take responsibility for? anything at all?
if anything demonstrates his complete and utter cowardace it is this. wow.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 08:14 AM
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32. No. And it's not only his personal flaw, it's a policy.
Their Decider can do no wrong.
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 08:46 AM
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34. Remember the 2003 Whitehouse scene of Bush/Tenet plotting to take out Saddam?
I sure do. It is really crappy the way Bushco passes-the-buck when things don't go well.

If all the preaching about Iraqi sovereignty and the establishment of an independent Iraqi judiciary were to be believed, turning over Saddam would have been an understandable yet regrettable course of action. The fairness of the trial not withstanding.

Still Condi should have known better than to acquiesce to such a foolish course of action. Nice shoes though.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:39 AM
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14. Oh please. Everybody knows it was Bush that made the decision.
At least they knew that they had to go high up with this one.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:39 AM
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15. Hadley
Sure he supported her decision -- he only used to work for her when she she was the National Security Advisor, and he's the one who fell on his sword for her in the matter of what memos about 9/11 she did and did not receive. The consequence? He was promoted. Sure, he's not going to challenge her. About anything.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:43 AM
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16. Uh oh. Maybe Negroponte isn't going to be so much the "deputy" as the replacement...
Wow, I'm thinking Condi's days are numbered. This is pretty cold.

sw
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:55 AM
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18. the wheels on the bus go round and round round and round.
And people were wondering why negropontie went back to the state department. Hell - he won't even have to pack to move into Rice's office. Isn't that nice.

And I presume this mean Ms. Rice is now due for a medal of freedom yes?


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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:07 AM
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19. She's one cold stupid witch
She increased sectarian violence. Why doesn't she just stick to shoe shopping?
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:23 AM
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20. i am so fucking
glad georgie picked a USSR expert as SoS. AND national security advisor.

i feel sorry for black woman who thought they had someone to look up to.
and little black girls.
look away. she is not one of you.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 06:22 AM
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22. There is no way that she made that decision on her own.
Busholini gave the nod and she signed off on it. She does what she is told to do. Busholini doesn't want to be accountable for anything unless it is a good thing for his legacy.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 06:28 AM
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24. You're not serious
Condi Rice is hated by people with African heritage. Her new name is 'white rice'.
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 09:03 AM
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35. Gone wild perhaps? n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 06:27 AM
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23. Rice knows the Neocons wanted to throw her overboard
re Lebanon so she attempted to play tough re Saddam. She is pure evil.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 06:36 AM
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26. Sr. bush admin officials.... so Cheney and/or his men siexing
an opportunity to get rid of Rice?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 06:40 AM
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27. Well, I guess Condi
won't have any excuses when she get charged with war crimes too.

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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 06:44 AM
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28. No wonder she looked like hell at Ford's funeral service. n/t
Edited on Sun Jan-07-07 06:45 AM by Texas Explorer
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 07:42 AM
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29. Everyone else is being blamed for bush's incompetence.
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 08:02 AM
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30. He even blames the voting public for his recent incontinence!
The reality is that there is only so much shit one individual can be held accountable for. His incontinence is merely a self-preservation-related-effluent-release-valve. Similar devices are installed in both of his ear canals. This gives the closely guarded White House secret away that Bush has "shit for brains"!
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 08:32 AM
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33. Political arroz con pollo in the classic sense. n/t
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