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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 08:08 PM
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It Had To Hurt. Deep Deep Down
Lots of people celebrating the death of Saddam Hussein. But deep deep down, even those people got hurt. They got hurt because Saddam died like a real leader of a country would. One who thought that he was not just a person, but also an office. Love him or hate him, he went down with dignity.

On the other hand, his executioners looked like savages. Kind of makes you feel the shame, it going down like that.

In the end, which kind of person is which?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 08:11 PM
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1. even for those celebrating, seems like Saddam got off too easy.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 08:20 PM
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2. I was watching Court TV,
and one of the commentators said that Saddam acted with more dignity than anyone present
in that room, and that fact will fuel the civil war more than anything else could have.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 08:26 PM
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3. if the shoe were on the other foot...
I would think it simplistic, and completely missing the mark if Bush by himself were held responsible for all this death and destruction. I can't imagine that death would be anything but symbolic, and would probably be perceived as 'house-work'.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 08:35 PM
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4. Wow. That's not how I saw it.
Saddam was hiding in a hole in the earth. He was turned in by people of his country, arrested by his mortal enemy, and humiliated on international tv with inspections of his mouth and being seen wearing nothing but underpants. He was continually screaming and yelling during his trial, and was insulted and harassed moments before his execution.

Not my vision of dignity.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:11 PM
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5. To each his own. I said nothing about the things you mention. I said he
died with dignity. I don't know how else you can do it. Taunted by savages who weren't man enough to reveal themselves...

If you can't see that, no matter what your feelings are toward him, then I guess you just don't see it.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:17 PM
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6. I watch the clip from the cell phone and I don't remember him doing anything except acept his fate
and he done it with 'Dignity'

dignity
One entry found for dignity.


Main Entry: dig·ni·ty
Pronunciation: 'dig-n&-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Etymology: Middle English dignete, from Anglo-French digneté, from Latin dignitat-, dignitas, from dignus
1 : the quality or state of being worthy, honored, or esteemed
2 a : high rank, office, or position b : a legal title of nobility or honor
3 archaic : DIGNITARY
4 : formal reserve or seriousness of manner, appearance, or language
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:37 PM
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9. he did no
yelling or screaming while the noose was around his neck- And those who so 'nobily' harrassed him showed just how impotent they truly are. It's easy to yell crap at someone who is being hung-

He showed incredible dignity, when he said to those who yelled for their religious leader- and then told him to 'go to hell' by saying "is this your manhood?"
And then, not averting his eyes- not crying, not begging, not wimpering like a frightened bag of wind, he prayed in a steady, clear voice to his god, as the 'mob'- continued taunting.

I do NOT approve of the things he is accused of doing- but i cannot help but respect the class with which he left this world- It is one thing to boast about faith- it is quite another to face certian death with the obvious faith that he did.

You are correct that there was a lack of 'dignity' in the hanging- none of which came from the man being hung.

I would like to think that * has that kind of class....



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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:20 PM
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7. Being Led Helplessly To Your Execution While Having No Power Whatsoever, As People Mock You And You
dangle helplessly from a rope; as punishment for brutally murdering, maiming and raping countless numbers of innocent Iraqi's, is considered dying with dignity? Not in my book.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:24 PM
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8. If a "real leader" of a country comes up on charges of crimes against humanity
there is question about her or his guilt. Oh, wait, "real leaders" don't get charged with crimes against humanity because they don't commit them.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:42 PM
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11. They don't?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:39 PM
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10. Did he murder kurds with dignity as well?
...
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:43 PM
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12. No. He did not. But he died as a statesman according to Joe
Scarborough. Even now they are calling it a PR disaster for Bush.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 09:51 PM
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13. There's some people who believe it was the Iranians because of
the type of gas used. Iraq used mustard, Iran used cyanide. What I read was it was cyanide gas that was used.

Still Saddam was a murderous thug.


I think what it comes down to is that the executioners did not act in a professional manner. I understand their anger, but if they are interested in justice and unity of Iraq, they did a great wrong for their cause. If their aim was to inflame the Sunnis then it worked.
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