Am I a Dem? Left? Loonie Left? I AM SO FAR FUCKING LEFT SINCE

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

BUSHCO TOOK OVER AND STARTED RAPING AMERICA THAT A CHINESE INVASION WOULD BE A GOOD THING!

I'd go to drink beer with Chavez, I'd work for turning the health and energy industry over to a public trust!

I used to be "mainstream." This administration has shown me how wrong I was.

/end rant.

I Like Chinese - Monty Python
Spoken: The world today seems absolutely crackers.
With nuclear bombs to blow us all sky high.
There are fools and idiots sitting on the trigger.
It's depressing, and it's senseless, and that's why...
Intro: I like Chinese,
I like Chinese,
They
only come up to your knees,
Yet they're always friendly and they're ready to please.
Verse: I like Chinese,
I like Chinese,
There's nine hundred million of them in the world today,
You'd better learn to like them, that's what I say.
Chorus: I like Chinese,
I like Chinese,
They come from a long way overseas,
But they're cute and they're cuddly, and they're ready to please.
Verse: I like chinese food,
The waiters never are rude,
Think of the many things they've done to impress,
There's M
aoism, Taoism, I Ching and chess.
Chorus: So I like Chinese,
I like Chinese,
I like their tiny little trees,
Their Zen, their ping-pong, their
yin and yang-ese.
Verse: I like Chinese thought,
The wisdom that Confucious taught,
If Darwin is an
ything to shout about,
The Chinese will survive us all without any doubt.
Chorus: So I like Chinese,
I like Chinese,
They only come up to your knees,
Yet they're wise and they're witty, and they're ready to please.
Verse: (in Chinese)
Chorus: I like Chinese,
I like Chinese,
Their food is guaranteed to please,
A fourteen, a seven, a nine and lychees.
Chorus: I like Chinese,
I like Chinese,
I like their tiny little trees,
Their Zen, their ping-pong, their yin and yang-ese.
Fade: I like Chinese,
I like Chinese...

[enigma000]

1. and that why patriotism is questioned n/t

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

4. Patriotism is what did it, Bubba.

Were a fucking Republic, no a corporatocracy.

[enigma000]

9. Moderation is key

Americans have never been one for extremes - just doesn't seem to work there. Fascism and Nazism were, in part, a reaction to communism. In turn, communism and far-left socialism thrived because of a reaction to Fascism. These political extremes are like magnets that repel. But they never caught on in the US.

But the centre is where long term political success lies. Two centuries of progress can't be overturned by one administration.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

11. The centre cannot be reached without two opposite ends.

One end has been defined, solidified and even codified.

The other end is filled with politicos who suck at the same corporate tit as the one in power.

The middle has been destroyed and it cannot be regained without the formation of a strong and defined left.

(IMHO)

[wookie294]

14. The Vietnam and Iraq wars were quite extreme

I would say Americans have usually been in favor of the extremes. We have 15,000 murders each year. That's extreme too!

[stillcool]

15. I don't understand how you can say that....

"Two centuries of progress can't be overturned by one administration"....???
1. Election Fraud through computerized voting
2. Endless War
3. Outsourcing of the USA...
4. Zero social net
5. Supreme Court to ensure law applied advantageously

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. "Patriotism is the most foolish of passions and the passion of fools."

Schopenhauer.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

17. Dammit..... Wow.

Well said, sir.

[SmokingJacket]

41. I never noticed your sigline before. Wow! nt

[leftchick]

42. Exactly

fools all.

[blue cat]

2. I am so the little activist now

because of Bushco, and I will devote so much energy to 11/06.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

3. When you are the only one left.... then I guess you will know that

you are left, left over, left handed, perhaps just left out.... :)

[movonne]

5. Yes, I find myself going the same way...I was pretty much moderate,

not really paying much attention to politics until they impeached Bill and from then on I started going more and more left.

[Jujiman]

6. Beer With Chavez...Quite Right!

Ya... a beer with Chavez sounds like the ticket...
and a big ol' sativa spliffy doodle! Ya!
:smoke: :toast: :hippie: :headbang:

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

7. Ya? Are you Swedish?

(Maybe, "Yeah?")

[Jujiman]

12. Sometimes I Wish I Were A Swede!

Ja...den I vould hav no BUSH to sig heil to.
Ah, that vould be da ticket!
Wheeeee!;-)

[newyawker99]

29. Hi Jujiman!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[meganmonkey]

8. Well said!

:toast:

[stop the bleeding]

13. I will be a liberal until the day I die. The founding fathers were liberal

and I tend like how they approached things of course the negative attributes ie: slavery our parts that I leave in the past. But as far as noteworthy traits I model myself after the true liberals.

Thank you and enjoy that beer with Chavez

[tlsmith1963]

16. I Was Thinking Today...

...that maybe I should get over some of the qualms I have about the far-Left. The far-Right is a lot scarier. And does the far-Right ever have anything to say about workers who are getting screwed over? No! The liberal side has always tried to speak out about workers. So this more "moderate" person is being pushed more to the Left, too. Our side needs all the people we can get, anyway. Let's stop fighting each other & *unite*!

Tammy

[Jujiman]

18. I Agree Let's UNITE!!!

As a "far leftie", i can say quite honestly,
that I have the need to UNITE!
Say Tammy, are you on the left coast and what IS
your phone number??? :loveya: :hug: :woohoo: :applause:

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

21. Careful... Not that kind of board here.

[Hardrada]

20. I don't know about labels but I do know I'd like

all RW types to be placed in re-education camps for 25 years ASAP.

[adriennui]

19. since bush was selected

i've come over to the "dark side" also. i had an epiphany one day and realized this creature (the chimp) didn't give a damn about anyone except his corporate masters.

he's failed at everything he's ever done and he's a failure as president. this time he's taking all of us down with him.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

22. Welcome aboard.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

23. For those of you who don't know the song....

http://www.mwscomp.com/sounds/mp3/chinese.mp3

[yodermon]

24. CHINESE SAY TO YOU, HA HA HA AMERICA!

http://festival.sundance.org/2006/watch/film.aspx?which=402&category=DOC

HA HA HA HA HA!

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

25. I saw that the other day! HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! WATCH IT!

Thanks for posting the link. That vid has haunted me.

[Swamp Rat]

26. Bushler has moved me so left I'd French kiss the Chinese

:D

[upi402]

27. stupifyingly brilliant. i like Thai though

Goldwater would be a moderate Republican today. An old UPI hand said that out loud on CSPAN.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

28. That is unfortunately truer than any of us would like to admit.

The right has gone further than any political agenda in my fifty years.

[rman]

30. i'm with you

nothing to add

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

34. Welcome aboard! There's still plenty of room on the train.

[KyuzoGator]

31. We're so far right that moderates are now the "loony left moonbats"

I'm actually quite conservative...my opposition to Bush's misadministration often gets me instantly labeled as a "librul."

[More Than A Feeling]

32. From Clinton-crat to social democrat, according to the moral matrix

for me.

It seemed like times were basically good during the Clinton years, so what Clinton was selling looked like the way to go. Of course, it all turned out to be very fragile, and the more I look at the reasons why, the farther left I go. It also helps that I get my news from the internet.

[Blue Belle]

33. It's not that I'm moving more to the left...

The country is being forced more to the right everyday - I haven't moved one iota.

[lapislzi]

35. Hate to rain on your parade, BUT...

I believe "I Like Chinese" was originally done by The Goon Show, forerunners of Python. So off the wall they sometimes make Python look tame--especially for the times (postwar UK).

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

36. Eric Idle....

Here are the credits:

Composer: Eric Idle
Author: Eric Idle
Arranger: John Du Prez
Lead Singer: Eric Idle
From 'Monty Python's Contractual Obligation Album'

I couldn't find anything on Google, but would be happy to find out I'm wrong.

[lapislzi]

39. Could be MY senior moment of the day

I have some Spike Milligan CDs that I can check too. If you haven't heard the Goons they are well worth the trouble of seeking them out. If I goofed, I apologize. :shrug:

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

40. I'd love to hear them! No apology necessary...

The tune is similar to many Spike Milligan tunes and I am sure that it has been used in many parodies.

[sandnsea]

37. yippy skippy

and so what. As long as the country doesn't understand why you are, you'll continue to sink with that big old W.

See?

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

38. Here's the difference...

I no longer give a fuck what anyone else thinks.

I am past posturing or making excuses, I'm not running for office so I can take my socialistic leanings and talk them up. I went through the 60's and 70's and thought we had pushed the flow a bit.

I don't have time for finesse or the need to placate those who don't feel the way I do.

I don't necessarily dislike those who propose a more moderate path, that's fine for them. I am Left. Proudly.

Peace.

[sandnsea]

44. It's ironic

Because I came to the opposite conclusion as you. I've always been way left of moderate with the line at complete and total socialism. But I came to the conclusion we were all going to sink if some of those in the center and on the right didn't start seeing we were sinking and why. It became obvious that talkimng to them in a language they could hear is what it would take to get the boat floating again. I never dreamed it would be such a radical idea to get like-minded people to turn a degree or two so more people could hear what they were saying.

[toddaa]

43. You know what's funny? I still think of myself as a conservative

I believe in a small, limited government. I believe in fiscal responsibility. I believe in protecting the environment. I believe in local communities addressing the needs of the local citizens with minimal interference from distant governmental agencies. I believe in providing a very basic safety net so that no one goes hungry or homeless. I believe in minding my own damn business as much as I want you to mind your own damn business. I believe in playing by the same rules as everyone else.

Now, for the life of me, I cannot figure out why all these fairly simple political beliefs that I have make me an extreme leftist.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

45. Ah, the paradox of living in a society of man...

Tough questions, few answers.

Peace.

[sandnsea]

46. Do you?

I hear that small government crap all the time. You know what it really means? It's the "you're on your own society" because that's what we had before FDR and that's why we had depression after depression. Another gift from the Reagan era. It's as much a myth as "fighting them over there". There simply won't be a true safety net that will work unless it comes from the federal because too many states would just dump the whole thing and that would put the burden on other states. The safety net costs mony, it's big, and you either take it or go libertarian and deal with the third world results.

[toddaa]

47. See, I knew it

I'm still a conservative!!!

And a libertarian.

(Here's the kicker) And a socialist.

[rman]

49. "small government" is an ambiguous term

It can be taken to mean that Federal government should not use tax money to fund programs that address national (non-local) needs (such as health care, environment, education etc.

It can also be taken to mean limited power of Federal government (and more power at state level) - which does not exclude using tax money to fund programs that address national needs.

What do you mean by "small government"?

[toddaa]

50. My take on small limited government

Small government - No massive military industrial complex
Limited government - No massive police state/prison system

[JanMichael]

48. I've always been on the Left but Bush really has shoved me into a...

...headlong rush to the Marxist Left.

[savemefromdumbya]

51. Always been left since a baby

At school I wrote peoms about the Vietnam war and the teacher put one up on the wall. She thought it was great. Now in 'AdolfBushland' I would probably have been shot!