Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

History channel and religion: They are

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:28 PM
Original message
History channel and religion: They are
pretty much dispelling any religios beliefs currently held as "Biblical" --- many of the current depictions of and myths about satan are devised by th church (usually Catholic) and people. Discussing the Inquisition and witch burnings and drownings.

A few weeks ago they covred information regarding Moses and the Pharoah and the Plagues, and how there had been a volcanic eruption that probably caused all of the plagues, inclding a gas that crept along the ground and killed the first born Egyptian males, who slept in a place of honor: a bed low to the ground, while girls and younger siblings slept much higher, and the Jewish slaves were all kept awake. Fascinating stuff. This was the first really good scientific explanation I heard of that event, and WOW! I bet the Fundies freaked ot over it.

BTW, I have trouble with my keyboard. Not all of the U and Es are making it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:37 PM
Response to Original message
1. Yes, I've been really enjoying this recent programming, it's fascinating.
Some I already knew from my history studies, some is new to me, but all of it is really interesting.

I wonder if any of it is cracking open any closed minds?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Only if we can get the cable companies to switch
The History Channel with EWTN, that Catholic Broadcasting station, or Trinity Broadcasting. Maybe then someone will hear enough that they feel compelled to follow through. But I have my doubts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:11 PM
Response to Original message
3. There's been a theory about Exodus and the volcano for many years.
The volcano on the Island of Thera erupted. It spewed ash and caused tsunamis that devestated nearby Crete. Ash from the volcano has been found in Lower (Northern) Egypt and it's possible that the tsunami may have reached the Sinai peninsula.

The theory is that before the tsunami hit, the sudden withdrawal of water from the Red Sea--actually the Sea of Reeds a swampy area in the Delta where the Suez canal is now--let the Israelites pass safely. When the Egyptian chariot troops followed, they were wiped out by the tsunami. Neither the Egyptians nor the Israelites had any idea of what hit them. The Israelites called it a miracle--wouldn't you?

One problem with this scenario is that the dates don't work. Thera probably blew around 1700-1500 BC. Moses is usually placed around 1300 BC around the time of Rameses II. There is a minority opinion that places him during the reign of Thutmose III and his stepmother Hatshepsut (around 1450 BC) A few years ago an Egyptologist interpreted an inscription of Hatshepsut's as describing the sea devouring the footsteps of some group of Asiatic nomads who'd offended the Egyptians--no mention of an Egyptian army being drowned, of course. This interpretation has been questioned and is not generally accepted. More importantly, the Thutmose III dates are a stretch for Thera.

It's lots of fun to imagine the foundation of western religion being based on primitive people's misinterpretation of a natural disaster but of course we really don't know. Maybe some day some archaeologist will find something that will clear the whole thing up.

By the way, Thera has also been proposed as the source for the story of Atlantis.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Thanks for the detail. I had missed the beginning of the story, but
caught the part about an underwater mineral release causing the seas to look blood red, killing the fish and creating those plagues with reptiles and vermin, whatever, and then the parting of The Red Sea.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Yeah it's a pretty neat theory but of course like I said the dates are a stretch
By the way it doesn't preclude divine action either. If God set the natural forces into motion why wouldn't/couldn't he/she use these natural forces to accomplish her divine will.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:50 PM
Response to Original message
6. Last Friday while working out, I watched a show about Mary and the stories/myths
surrounding the question of her virginity, and it was so absorbing my workout seemed to fly by.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:28 PM
Response to Original message
7. I saw that one about the plagues.
It was fascinating and made so much sense.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Dec 19th 2014, 10:52 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC