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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:17 AM
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How many Kurds and Shias did Saddam supposedly kill?
I've heard numbers ranging from 143 to 300,000.
How many did he gas, if he really did?
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:19 AM
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1. Quite a few
Saddam was ruthless and if you were a political opponent or dissident you would get executed or locked up and tortured. He ruled with an iron fist, ironically the only way a country like Iraq could stick together.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:19 AM
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2. wait..
You don't think that Saddam was responsible for Halabja?
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:54 AM
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9. I dont know who or what to believe anymore.
Did he?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:20 AM
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3. Don't know about the Shias but the kurds were killed with IRANIAN Blood Agent
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:21 AM
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4. 148 is the number for which he will hang...

NBC: Saddam to be hanged by Sunday
Ex-dictators execution expected to be carried out by start of Eid holiday

BREAKING NEWS
NBC News and news services
Updated: 7 minutes ago

Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, sentenced to death for his role in 148 killings in 1982, will have his sentence carried out by Sunday, NBC News reported Thursday. According to a U.S. military officer who spoke on condition of anonymity, Saddam will be hanged before the start of the Eid religious holiday, which begins this Sunday.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:21 AM
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5. How many Iraqi (and others) have we killed?
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:32 AM
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6. About 650,000 n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:39 AM
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7. It can't be established who
gassed the Kurdish village of Halabja, killing thousands and grievously injuring thousands more. So leave that off of the list. But, what can be laid at his feet are the thousands of Shia killed in the aftermath of the Gulf war.

Saddam is actually a complex character; indubitably brutal and in someways unbelievably foolish, as evidenced by the Iran/Iraq war and the Gulf War, but Saddam did focus on the creation of a middle class, health care and education.

There are some disturbing stories about his personal brutality that appear to be true. He certainly understood the power of fear, and had no compunction using heavy handed tactics to both preserve his rule and hold the country together.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:41 AM
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8. He killed a few thousand children in Khurdish villages at least. That
itself is enough for a war crimes trial.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:16 PM
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10. Why isn't there a trial?
why isn't he being accused of the horrendous offensives we have destroyed the Iraqi people and their country for? From 1979 until the present date, I would think someone could come up with something more than this...he being so barbaric and all.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:59 PM
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12. They seemed to have tried him on only a few "incidents"..especiallly ones
that would not embarass the USA. Nevertheless..he did all that he did. I'm not one for the death penalty - but all for genocidal maniacs standing trial and punished for murder. So they didn't try him on all. I think he would make a better example of what not to do if he was put in jail for life. But that is just me.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:18 PM
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11. that number has a way of morphing..
I think it's in the bazillions if you count those incubator babies.
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