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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:08 AM
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Can someone answer these Saddam questions for me?
Okay! I understand the whole "Statue of Limitation" thing! I understand, on murder there is practically no run-out. But, if there were no evidence, or no murder found, the case will remain open.

But, what I do not get is Saddam had a ton of evidence against him. Plus, his whereabouts have been known since the massacre took place. Not to mention, at the time of the murders Donald Rumsfeld, a special envoy for Ronald Reagan, was seen shaking hands with Saddam, pretty much approving what Saddam had done. Because of the United States issues with Iran, which share the same religious sect with that particular region of Iraq.

My questions are...

How long have the death penalty been mentioned about this incident?
Who else should be put on trial concerning this?
Are there anyone administrators from the Reagan era who should be brought on some kind of conspiracy charges?
Finally, if this is wrong, how come the rest of the world is not taking a stronger stand against what is going on?

Don't get me wrong, I am not a Saddam loyalist but, I find it strange that in 1982 there was nothing wrong with what he did. But, from September 11th 2001 forward, it has become a huge topic?
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:10 AM
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1. brother, you said it.
there's really no satisfactory answer to any of those questions, although they are perfectly legitimate (and pretty good) questions to ask.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:36 AM
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11. Yep
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:12 AM
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2. They can't leave him alive. Face it, these same people have
supported murdering rulers in other countries. But Saddam had the unhappy fate to be in a part of the world that they want to make over and control (the oil, don't ya know). Plus, he was about to demand that the currency for oil officially be the Euro. Plus this was the perfect way junior could show up Poopy.

Saddam hasn't done anything that others haven't. He just fell out of favor with the bloody murdering crew that's running America and the oil companies.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:32 AM
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8. Rule #1 Of Assassinations: Kill The Assassin
Seems to apply here. No?
The Professor
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:14 AM
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3. "Statue of Limitations"?
Statute of limitations - my second usage nazi post of the day! I'm so popular!!!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:15 AM
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4. Well, from a legal perspective, his trial was a sham.
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 11:15 AM by sparosnare
It was not conducted properly from the beginning; so in a democratic legal system, his sentence would be rendered invalid. The man was going to be put to death regardless; I don't know why they even bothered with a trial.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:33 AM
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9. Show Trial
Made it look good for the uninformed.
The Professor
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:35 AM
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10. the pretense of justice
sort of like the pretense of evidence used to start the war.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:15 AM
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5. The rest of the world has spoken out
Read EU comments.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:30 AM
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6. The American-led wars in Iraq over the last 15 years are a business dispute between former partners.
The BFEE and Saddam had a falling out in 1991, because Saddam's invasion of Kuwait made the BFEE's *other* business parter Saudi Arabia nervous. So, even though Bush's agent in Iraq April Gillespie told Saddam straight out, face-to-face that we didn't care what he did with his army, Bush I needed to make him out to be the New Hitler to satisfy the Saudis.

Fast forward 12 yrs through Clinton's deft Iraq policy, which gradually isolated Iraq more and more from the world and eventually would have forced a regime change from within Iraq.

From Jan 2001, Bush II's main foreign policy objective was to remove Saddam. 9/11 only delayed the inevitable culmination of the business dispute that originated from Bush I's mishandling of the situation in 1991.
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:00 PM
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13. I do remember during a debate with Al Gore
He mentioned then that he wanted to remove Saddam.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:31 AM
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7. Not from 9/11/01
He was put on "America's ShitList" around 1990, when he absorbed Kuwait. We've been there (at varying heat levels) ever since. Low simmer through the WJC years. 9/11 was just an excuse to ratchet up and finish what "Poppa" started.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:53 AM
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12. This is the SECOND time Saddam has been sentenced to death by an Iraqi court.
The first time was subsequent to Saddam's involvement in a failed US-backed Ba'athist coup against Qassim in 1959.

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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:19 PM
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14. A court would need more than exhibit A to convict someone of a crime.
exhibit A:
Donald Rumsfeld, a special envoy for Ronald Reagan, was seen shaking hands with Saddam



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