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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:16 AM
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Small Nuclear War Would Devastate Global Climate, Scientists Warn
As we Sell potential Nuclear might to India.
We must pause for a momement and think about the risk.


Small Nuclear War Would Devastate Global Climate, Scientists Warn

Richard A. Lovett in San Francisco, California
for National Geographic News

December 13, 2006

Even a small nuclear conflict would cause long-lasting global devastation that could kill tens of millions, scientists warned this week.

Within a couple of decades, 40 countries could have arsenals large enough to cause such a disaster, the researchers added.




A map illustrates how soot caused by a small nuclear exchange would spread around the world. Darker areas indicate regions where the smoke would absorb greater amounts of sunlight.

Scientists have predicted that the airborne soot caused by a limited nuclear war would destroy the Earth's ozone layer, block out sunlight, and reduce average global temperatures by 2 degrees Fahrenheit (1.25 degrees Celsius).

Map courtesy Alan Robock/Rutgers University


more:


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/061213-...


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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:20 AM
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1. Maybe the powers that be see this as a '+'...
It'd be just like them.

:scared:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 07:12 PM
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13. ...
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Gwerlain Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:55 PM
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22. What to fix global warming???
Sorry. I just couldn't resist.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:21 AM
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2. Informative, well worth reading..
To think greed, government and politicians are responsible for this Sword of Damocles,
just boggles the mind.
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Dirty Hippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:23 AM
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3. Finally! An answer to global warming!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:29 AM
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5. sometimes the obvious isn't obvious enough..
time to make a citizen's arrest!
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:40 AM
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7. That's what I was going to say
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:29 AM
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4. Isn't it too late already to worry about global climate problems?
Because of the lack of political will, we have effectively crossed the Rubicon already.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:32 AM
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6. Bush's new deal with India should be stopped..
India is a volatile country. No Nukes!
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:57 AM
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9. But Pakistan has nukes
so India must have them, otherwise there is nothing to deter the Pakistanis. And with radical elements in Pakistan, I think it is unwise to trust the Pakis not to use them.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:00 AM
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11. Agreed...and why India wants them
if you peruse the article, we have more nukes now than during the Cold War.

Russia and the US are the leaders in Nuke sales throughout the World.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 07:44 PM
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17. India has them.
They want bigger and better, which they and the world do not need.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:52 PM
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21. who's next? tom lehrer
Luxembourg is next to go
And, who knows, maybe Monaco
We'll try to stay serene and calm
When Alabama gets the bomb

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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:57 AM
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10. Yes, India can be volatile
as can Pakistan, Iran, North Korea, a few other nuke powers (France is probably more stable, for now)

Nukes is probably out of our control. It would take something like a "United Nations" to stop it, and even then I doubt it could be stopped.

It's a matter of time ...
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:04 AM
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12. What scares me is...
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 10:04 AM by Tellurian
theres no where to run!

I've looked in Fiji, Bahamas etc..
They all will suffer climatological problems soon..

We're stuck in a bubble and hostages of our government.


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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 07:20 PM
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15. India has plenty of nukes
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:54 AM
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8. KR...
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 07:15 PM
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14. Thanks for the post Tellurian
Kicked and recommended
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:03 PM
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19. Thanks to you, Uncle Joe..
This poor thread was buried under an avalanche of FORD threads..
until another poster clued me in how to edit and prune redundant threads.

Thanks, for the K&R :hi:

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 07:27 PM
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16. This could be the neocons solution to global warming
Just add nuclear winter and stir.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 08:31 PM
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18. chaos is the neoandratol's i mean neaocons favorite place
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 08:37 PM by ooglymoogly
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:51 PM
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20. sad to say it but...
...at this time of century there are surely some who wonder if nuclear winter isn't the last best hope for the planet

i have heard proposals that such soot be placed in the atmosphere deliberately before it is too late
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:00 PM
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23. Alaska, Canada, Greenland, Australia, New Zealand. There's
the list of 'safety' locations. Change anyone's plans?
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