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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 02:10 AM
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Kangaroo court, and a quick lynching. It's the All-American Way in the New American Century
As one of those who regards the death penalty just one more form of murder, and those who impose or advocate it as murderers or collaborators, my views regarding the killing of Saddam Hussein are not at all conflicted. But those who gleefully welcome this event, or those who think there is some justice in it, might want to first take a look at the "trial." All the Complicit Media has shown is a bit of shouting, but Human Rights Watch has been watching closely. Read their report, and then tell me that if you think the murder of Saddam Hussein is a just outcome, or just one more lynching.

The following is from http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2006/11/20/iraq14589.ht...
The full report is at http://hrw.org/reports/2006/iraq1106

"The proceedings in the Dujail trial were fundamentally unfair," said Nehal Bhuta of the International Justice program at Human Rights Watch and author of the report. "The tribunal squandered an important opportunity to deliver credible justice to the people of Iraq. And its imposition of the death penalty after an unfair trial is indefensible.

The report, entitled "Judging Dujail: The First Trial Before the Iraqi High Tribunal," is based on 10 months of observation and dozens of interviews with judges, prosecutors and defense lawyers, and is the most comprehensive analysis to date of the trial. Human Rights Watch, which has demanded the prosecution of Saddam Hussein and his lieutenants for more than a decade, was one of only two international organizations that had a regular observer presence in the courtroom.

The Iraqi High Tribunal was undermined from the outset by Iraqi government actions that threatened the independence and perceived impartiality of the court. Members of parliament and even ministers regularly denounced the tribunal as weak, leading to the resignation of the first presiding trial judge.

"Judging Dujail" reports previously undocumented and serious procedural flaws in the trial, including:

regular failure to disclose key evidence, including exculpatory evidence, to the defense in advance;
violations of the defendants basic fair trial right to confront witnesses against them;
lapses of judicial demeanor that undermined the apparent impartiality of the presiding judge; and
important gaps in evidence that undermine the persuasiveness of the prosecution case, and put in doubt whether all the elements of the crimes charged were established.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 02:27 AM
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1. W's justice imposed on an Arab nation
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 02:28 AM by Erika
Death as he carried out the same sentence on thousands of innocent Iraqis. At www.icasualties.org

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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 03:09 AM
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3. The monster Chimpy has already murdered hundreds of thousands.
In that context, this is just one more. This time it is being done through a charade of legalism. A puppet government, using a constitution given to them by invaders, and then using that delegated power to take vengeance. And ignoring those "laws" when they proved inconvenient. Not to mention the fact that several of the defense attorneys got killed in the course of the trial. What a mockery of "justice," from beginning to end. Just what you would expect from a government owned by a stupid psychopath whose only known giggles came when mocking the appeals for clemency by Karla Fay Tucker.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 05:53 AM
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7. Judge Roy Bean....
Hang 'em high....
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 02:47 AM
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2. But how are all the other people wronged by Saddam...
Ever going to get closure....
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 04:36 AM
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5. How are the many more
wronged by this invasion and this presidency in general ever going to get closure?

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 04:27 AM
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4. what gives us the right to invade and occupy a sovereign nation and execute its head of state? . . .
the invasion and occupation were crimes of IMMENSE proportions, and so is this execution . . .

will anyone ever be held accountable for the war crimes and the crimes against humanity perpetrated by BushCo? . . .

with huge corporate profits at stake, I sincerely doubt it . . .
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 06:09 AM
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9. Let me use a well known proverb
from my part of the world - same knife stick goat, stick sheep.
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 05:47 AM
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6. A quick lynching - but why so quick?
I suspect it is because - and only because -
the little fool needs some bizarre accomplishment
to brag about in his upcoming speech. He will
present the lynching as clear evidence that Iraq
is a vibrant young democracy with a robust legal
system. He will go on to say that the dictator
is dead, and now Iraq will soon be peaceful - meaning
the U.S. can leave.

Will he really be dumb enough to believe any of
that? :shrug:

The one thing he'll actually accomplish with all
this is the death of a bunch more people - Americans
and Iraqis.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 06:06 AM
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8. I am amazed at some of the posts
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 06:08 AM by malaise
re this trial and lynching.
Thanks for setting this out so clearly. I share your views. I can't wait for Ramsey Clarke's take on this trial.

I'm listening to BBC TV and on eof the lawyers says Saddam's execution has been decided by Bush and Maliki.
Add.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 03:58 PM
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10. Friday afternoon kick
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