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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:06 AM
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CIA Accused Of Bank Heist
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/THO308A.html

The CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) are accused by International Currency Review, the London-based journal, of mounting a joint ultra-secret operation to electronically remove an estimated $10 billion out of the Iraqi Central Bank hours before the start of Persian Gulf War II. The whereabouts of the money is not known.

We believe it is in a secret CIA fund which will be used to mount further special services operations, such as tracking down Saddam Hussein, said the Reviews publisher, Christopher Story.

Story is a former financial advisor to Lady Thatcher when she was Britains prime minister. In the past 10 years, he has testified before several congressional committees dealing with financial scandals.

DIA coordinates all intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It is headquartered in the Pentagon.

The report is titled The Great Robbery of the Central Bank of Iraq. It has been sent to finance ministers of leading nations, the World Bank, the Bank of England and heads of all other major banks.

The report is bound to cause huge embarrassment to President Bush after he signed an executive order on March 23, ordering a worldwide hunt for the hidden assets of Saddam Hussein and his family.

The Review claims that using skilled hackers recruited by the DIA and key Iraqi bank officials who had been bribed to provide secret access codes to the Central Banks accounts for Saddam Hussein and his family, the money was transferred out of the bank in a high-tech operation.

According to the General Accounting Office (GAO), the investigative agency of Congress, Saddam was estimated to have accumulated $6.6 billion between 1997 and 2000 from illegal oil smuggling and from illicit deals connected with the United Nations oil for food program



http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4025.ht...

Riddle As U.S. Spy Chief Quits

July 6, 2003
**Gordon Thomas: Exclusive**

Sunday Express AMERICA'S top spy catcher, Paul Redmond, has suddenly resigned in the middle of his secret investigation into how Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden allegedly obtained US computer software, the SUNDAY EXPRESS claimed this weekend.

The software is said to enable the two most wanted men in the world to avoid capture because it can pinpoint every move in the global manhunt.

Redmond's departure last week was accepted "without discussion" by President Bush, the man who had brought the spy catcher out of retirement to conduct the investigation.

Hours after Redmond had cleared his desk, Bush ordered a GBP 25million bounty on Saddam's head. He wants Saddam "dead or alive" and the same goes for bin Laden. Already Bush has agreed to either man forgoing a trial and being shot after interrogation. The official reason given for Redmond's abrupt departure was "health reasons." But stunned colleagues in the Homeland Security department in Washington, where Redmond had his office, insist the former Associate Director of the CIA was in perfect health. His departure has led to intense speculation that he may have begun to uncover embarrassing details of how the software came into the hands of Saddam and bin Laden.

Documents obtained by the respected International Currency Review, a London-based newsletter for the financial community, allege that the software was provided for Saddam on the authority of President Bush's father when he was in the White House - a time when relations between Iraq and Washington were close during Baghdad's war with Iran. The Review's publisher, Christopher Story, a former financial adviser to Lady Thatcher, said: "The documents are extremely sensitive and raise some very serious questions."
more


http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/07/268817.shtml

Proof of Trillions in Bu$h Family Business With Saddam 1989-1991
author: Gordon Thomas
The Bush family were doing business with Saddam Hussein from 1989 up to months before the outbreak of the first Gulf War.

In a document obtained by the respected London-based International Currency Review, it was claimed that after a year long investigation, it had uncovered evidence of the mobilisation of trillions of dollars in 1989-91. The document names a number of banks it alleges were supervised by the Bush Sr White House in the transactions


Business links involving the mobilisation of trillions of dollars by President Bushs father and his brother Neil, were under investigation by Americas top spy catcher, Paul Redmond, when he resigned.

A well-placed Washington intelligence source said that Redmond quit after a White House meeting with Vice President Dick Cheney and Attorney General John Ashcroft.

They are known as The Enforcers ensuring there is no taint on the reputation of the increasingly embattled President with the failure to find any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Already, said the Washington source, the two men have ensured Bush distances himself from Tony Blairs claims that the weapons will be found.

But equally Downing Street will want to stay clear of the allegation that the Presidents family were doing business with Saddam from 1989 up to months before the outbreak of the first Gulf War.

In a document obtained by the respected London-based International Currency Review, it was claimed that after a year long investigation, it had uncovered evidence of the mobilisation of trillions of dollars in 1989-91.

The document names a number of banks it alleges were supervised by the Bush Sr White House in the alleged transactions.

The banks identified in the document include the British Royal Family bankers, Coutts; Morgan Guaranty Trust and Chase Manhattan, New York; Banco Exterior de Espana, Spain; First International Bank of Denver in the United States.

What will cause astonishment is the provenance of some of these compromising documents. For many months we considered carefully whether they could be forgeries, and whether it could be credible that an intelligence organisation or a private gang of blackmailers and counterfeiters could replicate the precise behaviour of an obsolescent IBM computer to produce output identical to those images shown with this analysis. We checked these possibilities repeatedly with experts and also consulted banking sources to see whether these documents could possibly be fraudulent. The outcome of these investigations was unequivocally that the documentation is genuine.






http://www.gordonthomas.ie/mindfield.htm


The CIA and Its Secret Experiments

with MKULTRA & Germ Warfare.

Americas Great State Secret

by

Gordon Thomas

(Author of Seeds of Fire: China And The Story Behind The Attack On America)

MINDFIELD

Sensational never-seen-before documents from inside the White House, CIA and other agencies.

Reveals the documentary evidence that links US Vice-President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to the cover-up of the death of top CIA scientist, Frank Olson.



Explains how the CIA financed a ruthless and systematic assault of the human psyche using a British-born psychiatrist to spearhead the assault.

Names other world renowned physicians who were involved in the most sinister research programme ever created by any United States government and its secret partner the British government.

Reveals how a woman was programmed to become a CIA assassin.

Describes how a CIA chemist was murdered by his own colleagues after he had turned to the one man he thought he could trust a London psychiatrist engaged in similar work.

Reveals how expendables the CIA generic name for those selected for killing were secretly murdered after they had been experimented on in Europe.

Describes how the CIA used prostitutes and mental patients in other experiments.

Explains how the CIA deliberately pioneered the drug culture whose effects are still with us.

Reveals how the CIA agent selected to monitor the experiments eventually died at the hands of a physician steeped in the methods perfected by the CIA.

Identifies how the CIA experiments are still carried on in secret establishments in Israel and China.

Uncovers CIA terminal experiments on Vietcong prisoners in Vietnam.

Publishes the CIA Manual of Assassination a shocking document describing how to commit state-approved murder.

Meticulously researched, Mindfield is a deeply disturbing story of hideous government experiments using drugs and behavioural modification. Teaching hospitals on both sides of the Atlantic were used. Many of the doctors who performed those experiments remain in high office today and still conduct those experiments with impunity. Mindfield is a terrifying warning how easy it is for elected governments to sanction secret experiments to control human behaviour. Gordon Thomas has meticulously taken us from incredulity to awareness of the Machiavellian lengths our governments go to in our unsuspecting name. This remarkable book is essential reading for all those in a trusted role to care for people. In every sense it is an outstanding text that reveals the darker side of medicine.

Professor Anne White
M.C.S.P. Bsc M.D. F.R.C.P.A.
Assistant Clinical Professor of Medicine
Department of Psychiatry
McMaster University, Canada



http://www.udel.edu/global/agenda/2003/gallery.html

Spies, Lies & Sneaky Guys: Espionage and Intelligence"

Paul Redmond is an internationally recognized authority on security, counterespionage, and counterintelligence, with hands-on experience throughout Western and Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia and the Former Soviet Union.

Mr. Redmond is a member of the Technical Advisory Group to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and a Consultant to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He serves on the Steering Committee of the Crime and Loss Prevention Institute, Northeastern University College of Criminal Justice.

During his thirty-year tenure at the Central Intelligence Agency, Mr. Redmond managed the CIAs extensive counterintelligence organization, and counseled three succeeding Directors of Central Intelligence on highly sensitive counterintelligence matters, including technical and personnel security concerns. He established and built productive working relationships with NATO and with foreign intelligence and security chiefs worldwide. Redmond oversaw the counterintelligence aspects of personnel, computer systems and physical plants in the U.S. and abroad, and supervised the support provided by the CIA to the private sector relating to commercial counterespionage. He was instrumental in the apprehension of Aldrich Ames.
http://www.sabatiergroup.com/redmond.html



Paul Redmond, who headed counterintelligence for the CIA, was appointed to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security after meeting UD students in the Global Agenda series.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:33 AM
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1. First I've heard of this....
Looks like something else that really needs investigating in the new Congress.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:36 AM
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2. Secret talks with Iranian Arms Dealer 8-8-03
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0808-12.htm

Baghdad Embassy Bonanza
Kuwait Company's Secret Contract & Low-Wage Labor by David Phinney (CorpWatch)
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=13258

Germ warfare/Mark Buller links
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/01/attack/main58...

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4318

Declassified MK ULTRA Project documents
http://michael-robinett.com/declass/c000.htm

The 1950's Secret Discovery of the Code of the Brain:US and Soviet Scientists Have Developed the Key to consciouness for Military Purposes by Cheryl Welsh
http://mindjustice.org/book_frameset.htm

Where did all that peace dividend money go???

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:56 AM
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5. How great
to be right between the two people I've learned the most from here at DU, bobthedrummer and Octafish

:hi:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:52 AM
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10. Here's some more politically unpopular topics and history
about what a lot of the stolen wealth was "invested" in, seemslikeadream-thanks for bringing them up over the years.

Some Project BioShield partners
CACI, Hollis-Eden, Vical, Chimerix

MK ULTRA FOIA release
http://www.rcfp.org/news/2002/0819kellyv.html

US Army human experimentation by mind control whistleblower and survivor Allen Barker
http://www.bio.net/mm/neur-sci/2003-August/055095.html

Air Force Arm Lab Reports
http://thememoryhole.com/mil/afatl /

US Human Rights Abuse Report by Cheryl Welsh
http://www.mindjustice.org/7.htm

Effects of GHz radiation on the human nervous system: Recent developments in the technology of political control by mind control whistleblower and survivor Harlan E. Girard
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArti...

The mad scientists, nutty professors etc have privatized a lot of this politically unpopular (but very real) stuff into things like directed energy weapons
http://www.ionatron.com /
so many of these real patented DEW's exist that there are acronyms for them
DEW acronyms
http://www.nps.edu/Library/Research/Bibliographies/DEWs...
some of these systems are called (wrongly) non-lethals
NL DEW's
http://www.defense-update.com/features/du-1-05/NLW-DEW....

Non-lethal Weapons Terms and References (from 1996)
http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctrl/nonlethal.html

then there are bio-metrics and the politicized/militarized neuro-sciences resulting in

RFID chips with many uses
http://wistechnology.com/article.php?id=2044
http://www.verichip.corp.com /

platform technology
http://www.cyberkineticsinc.com/content/technology/plat...

mad scientists, sure seems so
http://www.brainwavescience.com/HomePage.php

and things like psychic spies, remote viewers, STAR GATE, etc
http://www.lfr.org/LFR/csl /

fwiw the CIA did "hire" a group to "review" the remote viewing psychic spies and then cut off funding-but it continues "privately' and that nutty professor that oversaw these ESP programs, Edwin C. May, criticized that--his criticism is an amazingly revealing work in some ways itself as to where a lot of the missing money went (and has left US insolvent)
http://anson.ucdavis.edu/~utts/may.html

There's so much to all these politically unpopular topics-thanks again!



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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:51 AM
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3. CIA helped themselves to S&L loot, too.
Legalized bank robbery helps fund those difficult unconstitutional adventures...



Organized Crime, The CIA and the Savings and Loan Scandal

Internet article

The savings and loan scandal of the 1980s has been depicted in a myriad of ways. To some, it is "the greatest ... scandal in American history" (Thomas, 1991: 30). To others it is the single greatest case of fraud in the history of crime (Seattle Times, June 11, 1991). Some analysts see it as the natural result of the ethos of greed promulgated by the Reagan administration (Simon and Eitzen, 1993: 50). And to some it was a premeditated conspiracy to move covert funds out of the country for use by the U.S. Intelligence Agency (Bainerman, 1992: 275). All of these depictions of the S & L scandal contain elements of truth. But to a large degree, the savings and loan scandal was simply business as usual. What was unusual about it was not that it happened, or who was involved, but that it was so blatant and coarse a criminal act that exposure became inevitable. But with its exposure, three basic but usually ignored "truths" about organized crime were once again demonstrated with startlingly clarity:

    There is precious little difference between those people who society designates as respectable and law abiding and those people society castigates as hoodlums and thugs.

    The world of corporate finance and corporate capital is as criminogenic and probably more criminogenic than any poverty-wracked slum neighborhood.

    The distinctions drawn between business, politics, and organized crime are at best artificial and in reality irrelevant. Rather than being dysfunctions, corporate crime, white-collar crime, organized crime, and political corruption are mainstays of American political-economic life.


It is not our intent to discuss the unethical and even illegal business practices of the failed savings and loans and their governmental collaborators. The outlandish salaries paid by S & L executives to themselves, the subsidies to the thrifts from Congress which rewarded incompetence and fraud, the land "flips" which resulted in real estate being sold back and forth in an endless "kiting" scheme, and the political manipulation designed to delay the scandal until after the 1988 presidential elections are all immensely interesting and important. But they are subjects for others' inquiries. Our interest is in the savings and loans as living, breathing organisms that fused criminal corporations, organized crime, and the CIA into a single entity that served the interests of the political and economic elite in America. Let us begin by quickly summarizing the most blatant examples of collaboration between financial institutions, the mob, and the intelligence community.

CONTINUED...

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/S&L_Scandal_CIA.h...





Thanks for the great post. PBS, eh, 'Dreamy?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:18 AM
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8. Ah yes, the good old days of Reagan/voodoo economics, Ivan Boesky,
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 09:30 AM by bobthedrummer
Michael Milken, LBO's that preceeded the likes of Ken Lay, WorldCom, the corporate fascism of the New World Order and now HOMELAND (TM). Many people and families saw their nest eggs for retirement destroyed overnight.

The S&L scandal "died" but the pattern continued, dealing drugs, weapons and trafficking in people all for building the assets and liquidity of black budgets-back in the 80's operatives like Ollie North and William Casey and John (total information awareness)Poindexter called it "The Enterprise" that hooked up such worldwide interests as the Columbian cartels, the druglords of all continents, the rainbow coalition of arms dealers-especially in the crumbling USSR and Warsaw Pact with the Saudi Royals including partnering with Osama bin Laden and his crew in Afghanistan with the "rogue elements" operating behind the shield of "national security" (including real Nazis and their networks).

Ronald Reagan's RW Republican operatives dealt with the revolutionaries in Iran to politicize the release of our hostages, an act of treason taken against President Carter's administration-but treason is acceptable to these criminals just like any other evil.

The "Enterprise" is illustrative of what the BFEE is about.

Here's a few random links for those that don't know what we're talking about-and a reminder that if simple folks like us know about these horrendous crimes WHY HAVEN'T THE PERPS BEEN PROSECUTED BY THOSE "LEADERS" AND ORGANIZATIONS WHOSE MISSION IS TO BRING ABOUT SOME JUSTICE???

Kissinger Associates, BNL and Iraq
http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/congress/1991/h910502g....

BCCI and Kissinger Associates
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/20kiss.ht...

UAE and BCCI
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

on edit: more indictment links
BAE helped fund Osama bin Laden
http://cryptome.org/soil/soiled-dove2.htm

BAE was back in the news a few weeks ago
"Saudi inquiry decision faces legal challenge"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/armstrade/story/0,,1973356,00...

The Teicher Document
http://www.populist.com/02.17.burns.html
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:12 AM
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9. Sort of like the Enron Model, but on a global scale...
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 07:48 PM
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41. Thanks for all the Links! n/t
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:53 AM
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4. Whoa. Lot Of Good Stuff In There I've Never Seen. Thanks!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:18 AM
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6. Bush stalls for time and the execcution of Saddam within 48 hours are
announced on the same day, Bush avoiding scrutiny of his decision by the press and dem's. Now this information kind of pulls things into focus.
the 11th vote for greatest page.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 05:14 AM
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7. morning kick
bookmarked!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:20 AM
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11. PROMIS -- Prosecuters Management Information System (had a feeling this was involved)
...anyone intrigued by DATA MINING and illegal spying on US citizens, should read up on the history of PROMIS, INSLAW and Danny Casolaro...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecutor%27s_Management_...

(background)
In March 1982, Inslaw won a competitive contract from the U.S. Justice Department to install, in the 22 largest U.S. Attorneys Offices, a version of PROMIS to which the government already had a license. In April 1983, however, the Justice Department modified Inslaw's three-year PROMIS Implementation Contract to obtain delivery of a new version of PROMIS for which the government had never obtained a license. Under the modification, the government promised to pay license fees for the new version if it decided to substitute it for the version specified in the original contract.

In May 1983, the month after Inslaw delivered the new version to the government, the government began to find fault with some of Inslaw's services and negotiated billing rates and unilaterally to withhold each month increasing amounts of the payments due Inslaw for implementation services. The Justice Department agent responsible for making payments was a former employee who had been fired from Inslaw. At the same time, the government decided to substitute the new version of PROMIS for the version originally specified in the contract but refused to pay Inslaw for it, claiming that Inslaw had failed to prove to the government's satisfaction that Inslaw had developed the version with private, non-government funds and that the new version was not otherwise required to be delivered to the government under the contract.

By February 1985, the government had withheld payment of almost $1.8 million for Inslaw's implementation services, plus millions of dollars in PROMIS license fees, and Inslaw filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

In the late 1980s, two different federal courts issued fully litigated findings of fact that the April 1983 contract modification constituted a government fraud against Inslaw whereby the government "took, converted, stole" PROMIS from Inslaw "through trickery, fraud, and deceit," and then attempted "unlawfully and without justification" to force Inslaw out of business so it would be unable to seek restitution through the courts and be forced to sell it's assets in bankruptcy liquidation.

Three months after the initial verdict was issued, George F. Bason, Jr., the federal bankruptcy judge presiding over the original case, was denied reappointment to the bench by the Justice Department ending a 14-year tenure. One of only four, out of 136, not reappointed. His replacement, S. Martin Teel, had been the attorney who unsuccessfully argued the INSLAW case before Judge Bason on the Justice Department's behalf.



http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1.01/inslaw_pr.html

(this article lays out the STEALING of PROMIS by the US Govt.)

The INSLAW Octopus

Software piracy, conspiracy, cover-up, stonewalling, covert action: Just another decade at the Department of Justice

By Richard L. Fricker


The House Judiciary Committee lists these crimes as among the possible violations perpetrated by "high-level Justice officials and private individuals":

>> Conspiracy to commit an offense >> Fraud >> Wire fraud >> Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies and committees >> Tampering with a witness >> Retaliation against a witness >> Perjury >> Interference with commerce by threats or violence >> Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) violations >> Transportation of stolen goods, securities, moneys >> Receiving stolen goods

Bill Hamilton, Inslaw & PROMIS

Who:
Bill Hamilton and his wife, Nancy Hamilton, start Inslaw to nurture PROMIS (Prosecutors Management Information Systems).

Why #1:
The DOJ, aware that its case management system is in dire need of automation, funds Inslaw and PROMIS. After creating a public-domain version, Inslaw makes significant enhancements to PROMIS and, aware that the US market for legal automation is worth $3 billion, goes private in the early '80s.

Why #2:
Designed as case-management software for federal prosecutors, PROMIS has the ability to combine disparate databases, and to track people by their involvement with the legal system. Hamilton and others now claim that the DOJ has modified PROMIS to monitor intelligence operations, agents and targets, instead of legal cases.

By late November, 1992 the nation had turned its attention from the election-weary capital to Little Rock, Ark., where a new generation of leaders conferred about the future. But in a small Washington D.C. office, Bill Hamilton, president and founder of Inslaw Inc., and Dean Merrill, a former Inslaw vice president, were still very much concerned about the past.


http://oraclesyndicate.twoday.net/stories/2726093 /
(this is a lengthy, 3-part investigation recently published)
Promisgate: World's longest spy scandal still glossed over / Part I
ukDavid Dastych The so called PROMIS affair would never have happened if the software invented by an American computer specialist, Mr. William A. Hamilton, had been a technical failure.

But this case management and data mining software, developed in the early 1980s by a small Washington D.C. company, Inslaw Inc., had proven itself to be a perfect intelligence tool. Originally made for the Department of Justice to help the countrys prosecutor offices in their case management, it drew the attention of corrupt officials and of Israeli Intelligence. Stolen by ruse from its owner, Inslaw Inc., the software was hacked and provided with a "trap door", a sort of a Trojan Horse hackers trick, that enabled the retrieval of information from the foreign intelligence services and banks it had been sold to on behalf of Israeli and U.S. intelligence. Without the knowledge of the softwares owner, and in violation of copyright laws, the PROMIS software was sold to over 40 countries and used in an unprecedented "sting operation", which yielded huge financial and intelligence benefits to the United States and Israel.

In February 1985, Inslaw Inc. filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection because the Justice Department had withheld payments totaling almost $1.8 million U.S. due Inslaw Inc. under a PROMIS Implementation Contract for U.S. Attorneys Offices. The PROMIS affair, broken by investigative journalists, two federal courts, and a congressional investigation and published in thousands of media stories and in several books, has never been resolved.

But "blowback" from the U.S. Government's theft of PROMIS in 1982 soon turned into a series of painful losses for U.S. national security, into criminal financial benefits for corrupt officials, and into intelligence "scoops" for the secret services of adversaries. "Its far worse than Watergate"--commented former U.S. Attorney General and Inslaw counsel Elliot Richardson.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:42 AM
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12. Also Mr. Hank Asher who is a member of the Board of Directors
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 11:50 AM by bobthedrummer
of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
Hank Asher was a Bahamas drug dealer who founded what became Choice Point, and his Database Technologies/DBT became MATRIX, he recently resigned from Seisint-here's some background to Mr. Hank Asher's contributions to data mining

Hank Asher profile from Source Watch
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Talk:Hank_As...

MATRIX
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/resources/16906res20040116...

Data Mining threads
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

added on edit
fwiw, here is a thread about the Board of Directors of The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children which started as a response to the Mark Foley Pagegate scandal-which is also politically unpopular in some quarters
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 06:26 PM
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21. wow -- what a WEIRD connection... missing and exploited children
"missing children" connected to this kind of mess, is chilling.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 07:36 PM
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25. Yes, and re computer network compromise are you familiar with Ptech?
Dubai port deal is nothing compared to Ptech
by Devlin Buckley
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_570.sht...

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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 05:24 PM
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35. Hm, this stuff crops up over and over in connection with corrupt Repubs
Paranoia-fueled coincidence, or something legitimate? Wish I knew.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 06:44 PM
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37. Human Network Attacks aren't paranoia, but can cause it since the mind
is the true target of information warfare which includes psychological operations-information warfare is still being illegally conducted domestically. Rumsfeld acknowledged this last February but didn't explain how these programs migrated from the foreign audiences to HOMELAND (TM). From 1999, here's a bit of background on information warfare from the USAF's Air War College.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/fmso/humannet.htm

We discussed a lot of this a year ago, a lot of faith in coincidence theories got trashed by the truth, SmokingJacket, maybe you can find some answers to your questions in these links.
"Reality vs. perception management: The tin-foil controversy" DU archived thread from 1-6-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:09 PM
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13. How could Saddam's money belong to anyone but America?
And did Dr. Kelly really slash his own wrists?

Now it seems that nothing is conspiracy thinking.


We know from the lawsuit that the FBI just lost, that Judy Bari and Darryl Cherney indeed did not plant that bomb that nearly killed them. But the FBI said they had, and did it to commit suicide. Right!

So Americans are finally starting to see what is going on in their names. This is worse than nasty stuff.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:44 PM
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14. A Must Read
K&R

How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or, if during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand... the Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers... and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt.

Alexander Solzhenicyn, Gulag Archipelago
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:59 PM
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15. Clunk
The sound of my jaw hitting the floor.
Excellent post and replies, thank you all.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 06:32 PM
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24. here's a good thread on BCCI
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:02 PM
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16. Remember when Clinton announced a policy of not hiring criminals and terrorists for the CIA?
He was soundly criticized and ridiculed by the neo-con fascists. Freepers like to point out that such a policy led to the 9/11 attacks since there were fewer "experienced" spies (ie, criminals and terrorists) to have thwarted OBL's plan.

It looks like there were enough "experienced" spies to pull this one off, though...
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:32 PM
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26. Vince Foster and PROMIS
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 11:34 PM by Contrite
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=3...

(snip)

"Foster was just one of the first of scores of high level U.S. political figures to thus have their secret Swiss accounts looted of illicit funds, according to both this veteran CIA source and a separate source in another intelligence agency. Over the past two years, they say, more than $2 billion has been swept out of offshore bank accounts belonging to figures connected to the U.S. government with nary a peep from the victims or their banks. The claim that Foster and other U.S. figures have had offshore accounts has been confirmed by a separate high-ranking CIA source and another in the Department of Justice.

Various sources, some of them controversial, have contributed other pieces to this puzzle. Whatever their motivations, those sources have proven remarkably consistent. Their stories jibe well with known facts and offer a most plausible explanation for Foster's mysterious depression. It would also explain Washington's determined effort to dismiss the Foster affair as a tragic but simple suicide.

Vince Foster a spy? Actually, it is much worse than that, if the CIA's suspicions are confirmed by the ongoing foreign counterintelligence probe. He would have been an invaluable double agent with potential access to not only high-level political information, but also to sensitive code, encryption and data transmission secrets, the stuff by which modern war is won or lost. That is because for many years, according to nine separate current and former U.S. law enforcement or intelligence officials, Foster had been a behind-the-scenes manager of a key support company in one of the biggest, most secretive spy efforts on record, the silent surveillance of banking transactions both here and abroad."

(snip)
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 03:32 PM
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17. Recommended & bookmarked!
This is an important story to follow. Thanks for finding this, seemslikeadream, can't wait to see everything unravel!
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 03:45 PM
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18. K&R. Excellent post SLAD
:hi:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 04:09 PM
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19. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
Dr. Evil runs the place, or should.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 06:13 PM
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20. The Bush family is the most evil family on earth.....
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talk hard Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 06:28 PM
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22. mind blowing stuff
good find
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 06:30 PM
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23. My God! Just...

My fucking God!

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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:39 PM
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27. kick
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:57 PM
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28. Great article. The CIA has been a criminal conspiracy since it's inception.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 05:39 PM
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29. And the Bush family has been there all along.
Poppy.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 06:00 PM
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30. It goes back further. Prescott's father was, I believe, involved in
shady military intellegence in WWI, long before the CIA's inception.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 06:38 PM
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31. Oh, yes, as banker and arms dealer to the Nazis, you mean
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 06:46 PM by Contrite
he and the Harriman Brothers made quite a nifty team, on which George Herbert Walker was ALSO a player

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00....
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 07:15 PM
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32. I know about Prescott. I was refering to his lesser known father, Samuel
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:40 PM
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33. Wow, put a moustache on W


Quite a strong resemblance.

So the Harriman business/arms deals started back then.

Interesting to read about the Rockefeller connection, too. Guess that's where the oil connections started.

Oil and defense industries all the way.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 05:18 PM
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34. Like a blue-blood version of a Mob family with global reach
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/123006.html

Bush Silences a Dangerous Witness

By Robert Parry
December 30, 2006


Like a blue-blood version of a Mob family with global reach, the Bushes have eliminated one more key witness to the important historical events that led the U.S. military into a bloody stalemate in Iraq and pushed the Middle East to the brink of calamity.

.....

The U.S. military is now sitting on a treasure trove of documents seized during the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Bush administration exploited these documents to discredit the United Nations over the oil for food scandal of the 1990s, ironically when Hussein wasnt building weapons of mass destruction. But the Bush administration has withheld the records from the 1980s when Hussein was producing chemical and biological weapons.

In 2004, for instance the CIA released the so-called Duelfer report, which acknowledged that the administrations pre-invasion assertions about Hussein hiding WMD stockpiles were almost all wrong. But a curious feature of the report was that it included a long section about Husseins abuse of the U.N.s oil for food program, although the report acknowledged that the diverted funds had not gone to build illegal weapons.

Meanwhile, the report noted the existence of a robust WMD program in the 1980s but offered no documentary perspective on how that operation had occurred and who was responsible for the delivery of crucial equipment and precursor chemicals. In other words, the CIAs WMD report didnt identify the non-Iraqis who made Iraqs WMD arsenal possible.

One source who has seen the evidence told me that it contains information about the role of Chilean arms dealer Carlos Cardoen, who has been identified as a key link between the CIA and Iraq for the procurement of dangerous weapons in the 1980s. But that evidence has remained locked away.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 07:43 PM
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39. And in just a little while the world will hear the Decider's "new" Iraq
"policy"-but many of US will be remembering the lies and crimes of "a blue-blood version of a Mob family with global reach".

No one is above the law, especially George Walker Bush.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 05:34 PM
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36. The CIA has always been rightly accused of cocaine & heroin smuggling as well...A criminal
Edited on Mon Jan-01-07 05:44 PM by GreenTea
organization and agency that Kennedy wanted to smash into a "million pieces" and of course the criminals in the CIA killed him and the same CIA criminal republican Allen Dulles sat on the phony, lying Warren Commission along with Ford and other republicans. (Much like the republican led phony, lying 9-11 commission).

Republican corporations and imperialist love the secret, criminal CIA doing their killing for them worldwide, with our tax dollars and our kids in the military.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:39 PM
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38.  another kick
where did that peace dividend go????
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 07:46 PM
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40. The Dirty BFEE!!!
What else is new?
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 07:54 PM
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42. Shit, Dan Rather was able to track down Sadaam and interview....
him.

What B.S.

such as tracking down Saddam Hussein, said the Reviews publisher, Christopher Story.

The CIA is using it for other nefarious purposes.
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