Circumcision Reduces Risk of AIDS, Study Finds

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Circumcising African men may cut their risk of catching AIDS in half, the National Institutes of Health said today as it stopped two clinical trials in Africa, when preliminary results suggested that circumcision worked so well that it would be unethical not to offer it to uncircumcised men in the trials.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/13/health/13cnd-hiv.html?ei=5065&en=8833323645b51227&ex=1166677200&adxnnl=1&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1166104812-zje0IoqFJgl9L/s+wKmzLA

[William769]

1. I'll say again what I have said in the last two times this story has been posted here.

This is pure bullshit!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. Whatever...

And your qualifacations in the field...

[William769]

4. Well to begin with I am circumcised and I have AIDS.

To know how HIV is transmiteed, is to know this is a bullshit story! Nuff said.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

5. and most men in the states are circumcized and still get infected with HIV

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. That's A Red Herring Or False Dichotomy...

Nobody is suggesting that circumcision eliminiates the risk of AIDS only that it reduces it...

[William769]

13. And how will it reduce it?

By stopping the flow of seaman or the transmission of blood? Inquiring minds want to know.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. I Think You Mean Semen

I'll give it a shot...


If you are the passive partner in anal or vaginal sex and your partner is infected then whether he is or isn't circumcised is of no moment.

If you are the active partner in anal or vaginal sex and your partner is infected presumably in a circumcized penis there will be less area that the virus can find a harbor, i.e the excess skin...


Two independent studies done by credible researchers don't lie...


That being said....

Wear a bag...

Have sex with folks with whom you know their HIV and STD status...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. In Scientific Terms

Uncircumcised men are thought to be more susceptible to AIDS because the underside of the foreskin is rich in Langerhans’ cells, which attach easily to the virus. The foreskin may also suffer small tears during intercourse, making it more susceptible to infection.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Nobody Is Suggesting It's A Panacea

And I truly empathize with you...


And there are many ways of transmission...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. And Your Facts Are Just Plain Wrong...

You're referring to an an earlier, different study, ergo:




French and South African AIDS researchers have called an early halt to a study of adult male circumcision to reduce HIV infection after initial results reportedly showed that men who had the procedure dramatically lowered their risk of contracting the virus.



http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/06/MNGANDJFVK1.DTL&type=printableL

[William769]

9. What facts of mine are wrong?

That I'm not curcumcised, or that I don't have AIDS?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. That Circumcision Reduces The Risk Of AIDS....

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[QMPMom]

3. Some people are going to read this news the wrong way

and think that they can't get HIV if they are circumcised and don't need to practice safer sex.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. That's Not What The Study Says Or Suggests

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[QMPMom]

21. I understand this. I am talking about the people that won't read the study

but will hear a few words about it and try to use it in the wrong way.

"Hey, Baby. Don't worry about it. I've been circumcised/had a vasectomy/I'll p*** o**."

[gollygee]

7. I bet if you cut off the whole penis, it helps even more!

What pisses me off is that my sister-in-law was telling me health is the reason she had her son circumcised, and she obviously felt vindicated after reading this, but she also told me that she wouldn't give her daughter the HPV vaccine because the daughter shouldn't be sleeping around anyway.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Tell Your Brother To Ensure Your Niece Gets The Vaccine

HPV can cause cervical cancer and sterility.

[gollygee]

16. I'm well aware of that

I have a daughter of my own, and trust me I'm up on this.

But they are guided by their church. And their church says no. :banghead:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Wow...

I can't belive a church, even a fundamentalist one would oppose a procedure like that...

[gollygee]

19. A little light reading for you . . .

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050530/pollitt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Wow...

I can't belive a church, even a fundamentalist one would oppose a procedure like that...

[etherealtruth]

22. My ex-husband sent me an angry email ...

... and links to the articles in question. We did not have our son's circumcised, due to my personal belief that circumcision is a cultural and/or religious practice; ones that I do not believe in.

With access to soap and running water and an understanding of hygiene I do not regret my decision, my sons do not disagree with my decision either (one is still a child but the other is 24). I thought the link between malaria and AIDS was far more important.