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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:33 PM
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This is what CINDY is PROTESTING numb nuts! (flash)
http://207.3.145.250/flash/no_bravery

this ain't even finished but it shows why we are all pissed!

anyone attacking cindy on this board after all we been through and especially NOW that the FUCKING fascist are now arresting her is a TRAITOR in my eyes.

_|_

peace
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:34 PM
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1. kick and recommended!!!!!!!!!!!!
:applause:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:40 PM
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2. Amen!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:40 PM
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3. Thank you.
It needed to be said.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:44 PM
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4. K&R, good stuff, BP.
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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:57 PM
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14. It is said that a picture is worth a 1000 words. The young mother in this
picture is 32 years old, but looks to be 50 something. That is the face of America soon as the rich get richer, the poor continue to sink into poverty and the middle class watches their jobs go bye-bye to India and China and WE become a third world country.

I imagine some of the women living in the Katrina camps have that same hopeless look in their eyes....
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:48 PM
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5. K&R your support for Cindy!
thanks bpilgrim!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:49 PM
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6. What BillyP said.
Especially when it comes to the illegal Iraq invasion and the fascist cowards in Washington -- Cindy speaks for me and I stand with her.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:50 PM
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7. 5th vote. nt.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:52 PM
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8. EXACTLY....think I'll just put Cindy bashers on ignore...its too stupid
for words and proves to me that some people have way too much time on their hands...
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:52 PM
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9. 6th vote.
Peace.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:53 PM
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10. Finish this QUIK Great So Far!! REC.
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:53 PM
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11. Damn right!!


Rec'd
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:54 PM
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12. I am so glad I clicked that link. It helps to be reminded that we
are at war.
And it is ugly.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:55 PM
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13. I'm w/you, b!
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:58 PM
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15. Cindy is real
That's all.

She's not calculating, she's just acting.

I'm glad.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:58 PM
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16.  That's Great!!!!
If something must offend a person - America's actions should.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:58 PM
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17. thank you.
Powerful work, bpilgrim.

highly recommended
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:00 PM
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18. Well said sir...
Recommended and kicked.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:01 PM
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19. Go Billy...Good Work...K&R...
:thumbsup:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:04 PM
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20. Heartbreaking - K&R
The look on that poor Iraqi girl's face just tears me apart inside.

As long as Cindy is willing to carry on the fight against the occupation of Iraq, I'll support her.

Thank you for sharing.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:05 PM
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21. Thank you
BPilgrim, as always, a superb post. This needs to be seen. K&R :kick:
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paradox Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:07 PM
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22. so
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 10:08 PM by paradox
were either with you or against you. hmmmmmmmmmm......where have I heard those words before?
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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:10 PM
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23. Thank you so much. Once again, bpilgrim,
you never cease to amaze me. thank you for posting this. amazing work. K&R
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:12 PM
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24. Right On!
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 10:12 PM by Beelzebud
It's time to run the fucking cowards out of this party for good.

We fight now, while there are still things worth fighting for!
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:23 PM
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25. beautiful work
and your post is right on.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:25 PM
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26. Nice work, ben!
Her son was KILLED in an illegal, immoral war. :patriot:

NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO QUESTION HER MOTIVES!!!!
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:32 PM
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27. ...
:kick:
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:46 PM
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28. thank you all!
the kind words means a lot :loveya:

peace
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:59 PM
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29. That was haunting
:Kick:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 11:01 PM
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30. You are DAMN right BP. We are SUPPOSED to be fighting for freedom
and the mother of a fallen HERO was arrested for expressing hers!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 11:20 PM
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31. Billy, I can't view the last half.
You said it's not finished, but what you've done is awesome.

Thank YOU. I see bravery in your work sir.

Please finish this soon! Let us know if we can help.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 11:21 PM
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32. Great flash.
I'm on dialup and had to get it in pieces but it was great.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 11:44 PM
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33. .
:cry:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:07 AM
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34. RECOMMENDED. This is brilliant!!!!!! Thank you. n/t
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:14 AM
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35. Heartbreakingly truthful!
I couldn't agree more.

How anyone can attack Cindy of all people with what is going on is just mindblowing.

Great work, bpilgrim.

DR
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:56 AM
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36. K&R
Those attacking Cindy need to review this flash a few times.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 06:19 AM
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37. No Bravery Lyrics
James Blunt - No Bravery Lyrics

There are children standing here,
Arms outstretched into the sky,
Tears drying on their face.
He has been here.
Brothers lie in shallow graves.
Fathers lost without a trace.
A nation blind to their disgrace,
Since he's been here.

And I see no bravery,
No bravery in your eyes anymore.
Only sadness.

Houses burnt beyond repair.
The smell of death is in the air.
A woman weeping in despair says,
He has been here.
Tracer lighting up the sky.
It's another families' turn to die.
A child afraid to even cry out says,
He has been here.

And I see no bravery,
No bravery in your eyes anymore.
Only sadness.

There are children standing here,
Arms outstretched into the sky,
But no one asks the question why,
He has been here.
Old men kneel and accept their fate.
Wives and daughters cut and raped.
A generation drenched in hate.
Yes, he has been here.

And I see no bravery,
No bravery in your eyes anymore.
Only sadness.

http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/James-Blunt/No-Bravery...
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 06:56 AM
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42. Edit: Found it at iTunes.
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 06:58 AM by Pacifist Patriot
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 06:20 AM
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38. You'll get no argument from me.
:thumbsup:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 06:23 AM
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39. Thank you, bpilgrim.
:kick:
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KarenS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 06:52 AM
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40. K & R ThankYou for sharing this!! n/t
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 06:56 AM
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41. Wow! Just wow.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:03 AM
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43. So If You Don't Agree With My Side...
So people can't disagree anymore? Somehow there's been some criteria that's been passed either on DU or some other site that dictates what constitutes a "loyal Democrat" or Progressive or whatever? Damn...I didn't get that memo.

I think there are many, many, many more ways that Cindy and other could and should be protesting this war. I admired Cindy when she asked a simple question "why"...and to demand an answer. Keep it simple. I didn't want to know her views on Hugo Chavez or Diane Feinstein. I was hoping for someone who would unite the various factions that oppose the war and this regime and to create a very large voice that the powers-that-be (including the corporate media), couldn't avoid, deny or spin away. That hasn't happened.

Now aren't we fighting against those who believe in a lock-step mindset? Against people who have no tolerance? Compassion? Ability to reason or argue. Just shut up and go along. Sorry, I found this to be one of the most repressive things about the Repugnicans and sure won't tolerate it with Democrats.

I know people are very upset and frustrated here right now, but this is when you need to be play smart, not angry. Maybe things will cool off here in the next couple days...

Peace...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:06 AM
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44. kick
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 08:47 AM
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45. Beautiful!
can someone give me instructions or point me to the software to put together something like this?

I've had one in my head for sometime that I'd like to put together.

K&R
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:11 PM
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46. This was great.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:24 PM
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47. I still can't get over
how horrible and heartless it is to arrest and accuse of treason a woman who is upset that the president's greed, arrogance, and lies caused her son's needless death. Is she supposed to put loyalty to the Fuhere...I mean, president over loyalty to her own son? I guess so, according to these fuckers. :mad:
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:28 PM
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48. I support Cindy but not this flash
This comes across portraying our soldiers as "not brave" and even part of what is wrong. I totally agree that there is no bravery shown from Bush, however, the soldiers are, for the most part, just as much the victims as the wounded. I will never support this war, but I do think that our soldiers are the ones who will be there when we need them, wherever we need them. It is not thier fault that the administration chose to lie to them.
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:35 PM
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49. The soldiers must go AWOL
I only support the AWOL troops. Were German troops "victims" when they imprisoned and slaughtered the Jews? Remember, most American troops support what Bush is doing, which is killing and imprisoning Iraqis, 90 percent of whom are INNOCENT.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:45 PM
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51. We are all victims
As much as we are guilty and Innocent.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:55 PM
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53. We are all Iraqis.
No Iraqi ever left me to die on my rooftop.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:23 AM
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77. War is Peace
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 04:31 AM by Moochy
War is Peace
Truth is fiction War is peace, We are guilty and innocent.

Some are more victims than others. ie. the charred baby in one of the flash images, I'm sure she would have preferred to grow up and live a full life, maybe even join a volunteer army and deceive herself into believing in the justice of a war of aggression, participated willingly in the invasion of another country, and maybe she would have preferred Post traumatic shock syndrome, to a her grisly death by incineration.

She was guilty of living in the wrong country, at the wrong time. A time when our government and media have been taken over by corporatist warmongers who sold our democracy to the highest bidder.

A war based on a lie. US Out of Iraq Now.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:42 PM
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50. Thanks, bpilgrim!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:51 PM
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52. Wow.... Kicked, Bookmarked, Recommended, Nominated...
And crying here...

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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:56 PM
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54. true so true - everyday there is at least one post that leaves me
speechless and think that this is todays - thank you
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:58 PM
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55. I could not finish watching it ---- Pretty fucked up and sad.
Bush shall burn in hell, IF there is a God out there...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:00 PM
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56. could barely watch this through the tears.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:05 PM
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57. Neither could I.
:cry:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:23 PM
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58. Everyone in every church in America should see that.
That is the republican's "MORALITY". The pictures and music are awesome. I hurts and it haunts me, to think that my tax dollars are paying for that slaughter of the innocents. Those kids never had anything to do with Saddam's crimes and what Bush is doing is no better than what Saddam was doing. No better than what any murderer anywhere on death row has ever done. It's mass murder in the first degree. Is it any wonder that people would hate America?

You should send a copy of that to every politician in Washington.
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woodcutter Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:38 PM
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59. That is powerful.
Thanks. That should be mandatory viewing for everyone with a computer.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 04:17 PM
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60. my sentiments exactly
kikn nom
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 04:19 PM
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61. Heartbreaking....
and disgusting. How can we be proud of our country?
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oscarguy Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:20 PM
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62. I see both, bravery and sadness.
The American Armed Forces are showing both. These are very hard times for U.S. armed forces, AND MANY PERFORM WITH BRAVERY EVERY DAY, DON`T FOOL YOURSELF ON THAT ACCOUNT. These Jihadi Bastards hate and want to kill you, that is the way it is. These troops are the only thing stopping them. Has everyone forgotten what an extremely cruel regime Saddam ruled with so very many years. We do ourselves no favor when we deny reality. ...|Oscar
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 06:02 PM
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65. I see an acknowledgement of both
We see our soldiers bravely doing their jobs. We also see shots like the soldier carrying the wounded little girl with a look on his face like he's about to cry, just as "No bravery in your eyes anymore,
only sadness" plays.

I'm sure many of them are torn at times between their duty and their hearts. But the media and rabid "Support the Troops" folks ignore this side of it, make out that our men and women in uniform aren't being deeply affected by the damage they witness and yes, even inflict on innocents. THAT'S the reality being denied, which this flash exposes.

K&R.
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oscarguy Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 06:13 PM
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66. I appreciate your reply and do not disagree.
Thank you for your response. ...Oscar
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:40 PM
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69. Thank you magellan
for putting the words to this heartbreaking song into its true context. The way to support our troops is to pull them out of this sinkhole and give the Iraqi people their chance to resume a semblence of normalcy. US presence in Iraq is hindering, not helping obviously. We will never be able to rid ourselves of the guilt that should be felt by every US citizen of conscience. Killing people to bring the false pretext of 'democracy' and 'freedom' is obscene.
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:30 PM
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63. Wow
Must see.
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:48 PM
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64. Should have had a dial up warning;
Damn this 56k dial up!

It is a set of powerful video and audio images. Thank you.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 06:57 PM
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67. I watch this over and over and cry each time.
It is beautiful.
Is there any way to get a copy to show to other people, and who is singing the music?
I don't know you, but would be glad to send a cd, or my email address.
Thank-you.
Robin
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 09:20 PM
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72. when i finish this, i will post a link where you can download or email
thank you everyone for the kind words in response to this flash it is very encouraging as it is hard working on this considering the topic and pictures.

the singer - JAMES BLUNT - is an xSolider who served in kosovo and knows what war is as his words testify to. this song is from his debut cd (last spring in europe) 'Back from Bedlam'.

i just heard of him recently myself (couple weeks ago) and when i heard this song i knew just what pictures they brought to mind :cry:

thanks everyone for pass'n the word :toast:

:BTW: Here's another FLASH with the same theme (and FINISHED)...
http://ptc.cf.huffingtonpost.com/animations/bravery.htm...

peace
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 02:40 AM
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73. Thanks to your posts, bpilgrim, I have discovered,
new to me, songs by a talented artist, James Blunt. I went to his website and downloaded several of his somgs. The No Bravery videos have brought tears to my eyes that I have needed to shed to try and relieve the pain in my heart that I feel because of this senseless assault against all that is sacred in this world. Thank you so much.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 06:59 PM
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68. AMEN bpilgrim!
DINO-lovers and protester-haters need to wake up and smell the jackboot on the back of their necks.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:56 PM
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70. Powerful
Thank you.

K&R
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 08:06 PM
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71. Fantastic, Billy!!11!!! Please, please finish it.
This needs to be out there!


Two BIG
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 02:43 AM
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74. Everyone on this board should
see this video so kick it up !
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 03:01 AM
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75. excellent, bpilgrim! absolutely! thank you!! kick! eom
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:01 AM
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76. You are 100% correct
This is so touching yet so sad. Thanks.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 07:14 AM
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78. Here is the finished flash (LINK)
http://news.globalfreepress.com/gallery/displayimage.ph...

thank you all for your very kind comments, it really means a lot :hug:

peace
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:49 PM
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79. "only sadness"
"he
was here"

it's tears falling, but i can not stop shrieking inside

yes, this is why cindy fights

a great greatest hero

thank you thank you for this, bpilgrim

please keep on
:hug:


peace
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 08:37 AM
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81. Thank you for sharing
very moving and powerful
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abex Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:18 PM
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80. where you at now, numbnuts? nt
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 08:55 AM
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82. What in the hell are you talking about?
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abex Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 02:04 AM
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85. read the original post title nn
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 09:03 AM
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83. Cindy's cause is our cause, but let's leave her out of politics.
I could not support her for any political race. It would simply undermine her effectiveness. I would counsel her to stay right where she's at, which is front and center of a most important issue.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:59 AM
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84. "let's"? please speak for yourself. there is no generic "us" here, when it
comes to second-guessing Cindy's choices.

those who support her, do so BECAUSE her choices have done so very much, so well, and so courageously.

she has accomplished what no one - NO ONE! - else was able to. and if she'd listened to nay-sayers, so many along the way, she would not have done that.

get it?

thank you.


peace
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 02:22 AM
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86. K icked -- thanks for posting this link
Edited on Sun Feb-05-06 02:23 AM by radio4progressives
:thumbsup: :cry:



:nuke:


on edit: i tried to rate this thread up, didn't realize it's too late.
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