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Tue Jan-31-06 10:16 PM
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| ************* OFFICIAL DEM RESPONSE THREAD #1 *************** |

He was a missionary? |
Nikki Stone 1 |
Jan-31-06 10:17 PM |
#1 |
 
and they say |
morffin |
Jan-31-06 11:07 PM |
#133 |

"Poor Choices and Bad Management" |
Jeanette in FL |
Jan-31-06 10:17 PM |
#2 |
 
Tim dissed how the Fed gov is screwing up--leaving a mess to our |
rodeodance |
Jan-31-06 10:35 PM |
#108 |

Ugh... |
HillDem |
Jan-31-06 10:17 PM |
#3 |
 
Yeah, he's a Saturday Night Live skit waiting to happen |
katamaran |
Jan-31-06 10:18 PM |
#4 |
 
Rogue eyebrow |
Tinksrival |
Jan-31-06 10:19 PM |
# |
  
Yeah, that eyebrow is ridiculous. Makes him look silly. n/t |
krkaufman |
Jan-31-06 10:48 PM |
#119 |
 
Someone on DU was hilarious. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-31-06 10:31 PM |
#89 |

He's an absolutely terrible speaker. |
hedda_foil |
Jan-31-06 10:18 PM |
#5 |
 
Give the kid a break.... |
Wolsh |
Jan-31-06 10:18 PM |
#9 |
 
I've liked it so far. |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-31-06 10:18 PM |
#10 |
 
He is spot on with all the points he is making. |
Midlodemocrat |
Jan-31-06 11:57 PM |
#163 |

Is this Bush's younger brother? |
d_b |
Jan-31-06 10:18 PM |
#6 |

whats with the goofy half=smile? |
FLDem5 |
Jan-31-06 10:18 PM |
#7 |
 
This is not a time to have a smirk on your face....these are serious times |
Roxy66 |
Jan-31-06 10:20 PM |
#23 |

I'm Sorry, this is weak |
Jeanette in FL |
Jan-31-06 10:18 PM |
#8 |
 
If nothing else its good press for warner nt |
Wolsh |
Jan-31-06 10:19 PM |
#14 |
 
I hate this, and I really like Kaine |
TornadoTN |
Jan-31-06 10:20 PM |
#21 |

Well so far so good |
proud patriot |
Jan-31-06 10:18 PM |
#11 |

Best managed state (yes, our budget is balanced), we are fiscally |
frankly_fedup2 |
Jan-31-06 10:19 PM |
#12 |
 
and you burn your gay residents for fuel. |
kevinbgoode |
Feb-01-06 12:36 AM |
#177 |

nothing against the guy, but he is talking as fast as Bush... |
jsamuel |
Jan-31-06 10:19 PM |
#13 |

better than the Pelosi mummy one. put the eyebrow down man |
upi402 |
Jan-31-06 10:19 PM |
#15 |

Seems like a nice guy. In this climate, nice guys finish last. Can't |
NRaleighLiberal |
Jan-31-06 10:19 PM |
#16 |

Is his eyebrow the only thing that's animated? |
Pithy Cherub |
Jan-31-06 10:19 PM |
#17 |
 
Make it stop! |
Tinksrival |
Jan-31-06 10:21 PM |
#28 |

Xena did the eyebrow thing also. any fans out there? |
rodeodance |
Jan-31-06 10:25 PM |
#44 |

Xena had other ass etts that nade her |
tmfun |
Feb-01-06 12:29 AM |
#175 |

Why this guy? |
Nikki Stone 1 |
Jan-31-06 10:19 PM |
#18 |
 
DLC'er - My Guess |
otohara |
Jan-31-06 10:21 PM |
#25 |
 
No. It's because we are the only state in the country who has a |
frankly_fedup2 |
Jan-31-06 10:26 PM |
#57 |
  
ALL politicians should be limited to one term. I love that about |
soothsayer |
Jan-31-06 10:31 PM |
#91 |
   
I agree: strict term limits. Or we get gov of the incumbents, by the in- |
wordpix2 |
Jan-31-06 11:53 PM |
#157 |
  
Tim is a new face, thus no partisan baggage to target him with |
librechik |
Jan-31-06 11:33 PM |
#148 |
 
Why not this guy? |
Midlodemocrat |
Jan-31-06 11:58 PM |
#164 |

Good Eyebrow Action |
otohara |
Jan-31-06 10:20 PM |
#19 |
 
LMAO nt |
carolinalady |
Jan-31-06 10:20 PM |
#24 |
 
I think he has a live weasel stapled to his forehead... |
Vulture |
Feb-01-06 12:01 AM |
#168 |

Please, bring out Gore as a closer |
upi402 |
Jan-31-06 10:20 PM |
# |

I think Kaine is doing good! |
calmblueocean |
Jan-31-06 10:20 PM |
#20 |
 
You nailed it! He *politely* laid out Bush's failures on taxes, the |
mzmolly |
Jan-31-06 10:35 PM |
#110 |

Geez, some of you guys are hostile. |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-31-06 10:20 PM |
#22 |
 
I don't have anything against him, but I could hear everyone in my neighbo |
jsamuel |
Jan-31-06 10:21 PM |
#27 |
  
Well, that happens every time with a response. Frankly, these |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-31-06 10:26 PM |
#56 |
 
Isn't that the truth. They don't even know anything about Tim Kaine or |
frankly_fedup2 |
Jan-31-06 10:30 PM |
#87 |

Kaine ran the cleanest campaign I have seen lately, and he WON! |
Virginian |
Jan-31-06 11:18 PM |
#139 |

Kaine's doing well....go Timmy ! |
Catchawave |
Jan-31-06 10:21 PM |
#26 |
 
I love Tim, Catch, but... this was boring. |
Clark2008 |
Jan-31-06 10:30 PM |
#86 |

CNN's giving him high marks. |
Catchawave |
Jan-31-06 10:35 PM |
#105 |

CNN is giving him high marks? |
Clark2008 |
Jan-31-06 10:41 PM |
#112 |

msnbc with Tweety Bird says he was boring, not hard hitting |
wordpix2 |
Jan-31-06 11:55 PM |
#158 |

We severely overestimate the attention span and intelligence of |
NRaleighLiberal |
Jan-31-06 10:22 PM |
#29 |
 
agree- one of my favorite soap boxes! n/t |
carolinalady |
Jan-31-06 10:23 PM |
#35 |
 
He is doing a Mr. Rogers....we need more of a Mr. T for this stuff. |
NRaleighLiberal |
Jan-31-06 10:23 PM |
#36 |
 
He's very succinct |
sandnsea |
Jan-31-06 10:56 PM |
#124 |
 
You mean like Howard Dean, Wes Clark, Ted Kennedy, Al Gore, et al |
loudsue |
Feb-01-06 02:22 AM |
#178 |

I can't get over his looks |
jonas_stradlater |
Jan-31-06 10:22 PM |
#30 |
 
He's nailing them on Iraq... |
Wolsh |
Jan-31-06 10:23 PM |
#34 |
  
Maybe I'm just still pissed from the speech |
jonas_stradlater |
Jan-31-06 10:34 PM |
#103 |
  
Nailing them with what? |
Liberal_Art |
Jan-31-06 11:15 PM |
#138 |
 
Everyone who can be outraged already is |
calmblueocean |
Jan-31-06 10:23 PM |
#37 |
 
Can I wake up yet!!!! OMFG>>>>This is fucking WEAK!!!!! |
Roxy66 |
Jan-31-06 10:25 PM |
#51 |
 
A little more passion couldn't hurt |
Nevernose |
Jan-31-06 10:26 PM |
#54 |
 
Get over it, dude. |
Midlodemocrat |
Jan-31-06 11:59 PM |
#166 |

Seems o.k. to me. nt |
patricia92243 |
Jan-31-06 10:22 PM |
#31 |

another stiff uncharismatic response |
messiah |
Jan-31-06 10:22 PM |
#32 |
 
It looks like patient pleading and rational info to me. nt |
greyl |
Jan-31-06 10:24 PM |
#39 |

he's partially surprised! |
bagimin |
Jan-31-06 10:22 PM |
#33 |
 
HHHHAAAA HHHAAA !!!! |
Tinksrival |
Jan-31-06 10:25 PM |
#45 |

zzzzzzz.......... |
tgnyc |
Jan-31-06 10:24 PM |
#38 |

ugh...We can do better? |
JusticeForAll |
Jan-31-06 10:24 PM |
#40 |
 
agreed... |
nickinSTL |
Feb-01-06 09:13 AM |
#185 |

They shoulda picked |
DemonGoddess |
Jan-31-06 10:25 PM |
#41 |
 
I love Al Gore, but he LOST. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-01-06 12:00 AM |
#167 |

He's better on what he knows better; and a crappy teleprompter |
Nevernose |
Jan-31-06 10:25 PM |
#42 |

Should be a simple retort. The Pugs are corrupt. They lied, and continue |
NRaleighLiberal |
Jan-31-06 10:25 PM |
#43 |
 
says dems of leading the way----well,,, if they shout loud enough! |
rodeodance |
Jan-31-06 10:26 PM |
#58 |

FYI...site with media tools for fighting SOTU spin, here: |
Wordie |
Jan-31-06 10:25 PM |
#46 |

this should be Gore or Rangel or Boxer or Kerry |
Sydnie |
Jan-31-06 10:25 PM |
#47 |

Scarrrrrry.... |
hjash |
Jan-31-06 10:25 PM |
#48 |

There's no response in this "response". |
Lexingtonian |
Jan-31-06 10:25 PM |
#49 |
 
He stipulated that he writes his own material but he did have |
carolinalady |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#65 |

He sounds nice and unthreatening to middle of the road voters |
Nikki Stone 1 |
Jan-31-06 10:25 PM |
#50 |
 
Randi Rhodes should have done it |
FogerRox |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#71 |
 
MOTR voters want someone who BELIEVES |
Nevernose |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
# |
 
I agree -- he was calm and reasonable |
CornField |
Jan-31-06 10:29 PM |
#78 |

This is lame and uninspiring......we can do better than this. |
yourout |
Jan-31-06 10:26 PM |
#52 |
 
* |
rusty charly |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#75 |

He is BORING! |
qanda |
Jan-31-06 10:26 PM |
#53 |

Folks....sorry, but we are in DEEP SHIT. This approach DOES NOT WORK |
NRaleighLiberal |
Jan-31-06 10:26 PM |
#55 |
 
Damn right! |
JFN1 |
Jan-31-06 11:00 PM |
#126 |

WTF do you folks want? |
calmblueocean |
Jan-31-06 10:26 PM |
#59 |
 
Why don't we let Cindy Sheehan give the response! |
Wolsh |
Jan-31-06 10:27 PM |
#64 |
  
cindy's been arrested |
rusty charly |
Jan-31-06 10:30 PM |
#83 |
 
Cindy was arrested by the fashion police for wearing wrong shirt. n/t |
Virginian |
Jan-31-06 11:10 PM |
#135 |
 
He is Ok--rather quiet in tone is my problem. |
rodeodance |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#66 |
 
He should have practiced this speech |
qanda |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#74 |
 
You're right, I don't know what they should do anymore......... |
erinlough |
Jan-31-06 10:30 PM |
#84 |
 
LOL. I hadn't thought about that. |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-31-06 10:55 PM |
#122 |
 
How about passion? |
JFN1 |
Jan-31-06 11:03 PM |
#131 |

A passionate response would have been quite effective! |
fooj |
Jan-31-06 11:33 PM |
#149 |

Culture of partisanship any cronyism? |
Idioteque |
Jan-31-06 10:26 PM |
#60 |

Bill Clinton he is not.... |
Nevernose |
Jan-31-06 10:27 PM |
#61 |
 
Did you see Clintons Keynote Address at the 88 convention? nt |
Wolsh |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
# |

And so we pray. |
Ovett |
Jan-31-06 10:27 PM |
#62 |

First Kaine Bingo Word...SERVICE. helllllppppp!!!!!!!!!!! |
NRaleighLiberal |
Jan-31-06 10:27 PM |
#63 |

jon meacham on msnbc says |
mb7588a |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#67 |

Sounds pretty good if the intended audience is Repubs. But gads, |
54anickel |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#68 |

Frist and Obama on with Brian Williams |
Sydnie |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#69 |

Oh boy! |
FlaGranny |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#70 |

OH Yes |
Tinksrival |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#72 |

WE NEEDED OBAMA!!! I am so sick of this weak shit!!! |
Roxy66 |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#73 |
 
We needed him for our response!! |
Roxy66 |
Jan-31-06 10:29 PM |
#79 |
 
Second that |
Pillager |
Jan-31-06 10:29 PM |
#81 |
 
Dems who have been Presidents have been centrist (host) |
rodeodance |
Jan-31-06 10:29 PM |
#82 |
 
Dem Response |
PegDAC |
Jan-31-06 10:33 PM |
#98 |
  
I'll second that! |
Tinksrival |
Jan-31-06 10:56 PM |
#123 |
 
The Democratic leadership has been pushing Obama to the front |
frankly_fedup2 |
Jan-31-06 10:34 PM |
#101 |
  
they didn't put him out front tonight, they should have |
wordpix2 |
Jan-31-06 11:57 PM |
#162 |
 
Please. Have you really disected Obama's speeches? |
Turn CO Blue |
Jan-31-06 10:44 PM |
#116 |
 
Or the Tedster. Or, better yet, KERRY. n/t |
PVK |
Jan-31-06 11:04 PM |
#132 |
 
agree. Obama is the best orator, put him out there and let's hear him |
wordpix2 |
Jan-31-06 11:57 PM |
#161 |

CBS: Kaine is a VEEERY conservative Dem, he made some religious references |
jsamuel |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#76 |
 
Yes, because we can't cede all voters of faith to the Republicans. |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-31-06 10:41 PM |
#111 |

did you read my post? |
jsamuel |
Jan-31-06 11:11 PM |
#136 |

Sorry. I thought it was your opinion. I've seen a lot of people get |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-31-06 11:24 PM |
#142 |

Wonder if that eyebrow hurts? |
Pillager |
Jan-31-06 10:28 PM |
#77 |

They let dems get pushed around |
Tristan |
Jan-31-06 10:29 PM |
#80 |
 
Feinstein gives him a B--msnbc now. |
rodeodance |
Jan-31-06 10:30 PM |
#85 |

says Jr did lttle for health care in this speech--a concern for many. |
rodeodance |
Jan-31-06 10:31 PM |
#90 |

I give him an F- |
rusty charly |
Jan-31-06 10:32 PM |
# |

Frist talking about obstruction - Obama up now |
Sydnie |
Jan-31-06 10:31 PM |
#88 |
 
saying needs to get warrant . Period! |
rodeodance |
Jan-31-06 10:32 PM |
#95 |
  
cindy wore T-shirt with # of dead on her T-shirt. Diane said that will |
rodeodance |
Jan-31-06 10:33 PM |
#99 |
 
it was kinda cute--Diane did not want to diss Cindy. |
rodeodance |
Jan-31-06 10:34 PM |
#102 |
 
My impression was that DiFi was laughing at the thought of Cindy running |
wordpix2 |
Jan-31-06 11:59 PM |
#165 |
 
Was that the brew-ha during SOTU? Dems sarcastic applause? |
54anickel |
Jan-31-06 10:35 PM |
#107 |

"There is a better way" |
Southpawkicker |
Jan-31-06 10:31 PM |
#92 |

Russert says the one thing that will get done this year - lobbying reform. |
Sydnie |
Jan-31-06 10:31 PM |
#93 |

If we were targeting moderates, we should have gone with Obama. |
Tatiana |
Jan-31-06 10:32 PM |
#94 |

Boy, speak about working a tough room....LOL |
Catchawave |
Jan-31-06 10:32 PM |
#96 |
 
Gergen agrees with you |
Sydnie |
Jan-31-06 10:34 PM |
#100 |

amazing |
Jim4Wes |
Jan-31-06 10:32 PM |
#97 |

Speech Problem |
Tristan |
Jan-31-06 10:34 PM |
#104 |
 
Kaine wrote it-condition of his prior to agreeing to doing the |
carolinalady |
Jan-31-06 10:35 PM |
#109 |
 
I felt the complete opposite |
Tarc |
Jan-31-06 11:01 PM |
# |

The DLC anger management seminars are obviously working. |
Neshanic |
Jan-31-06 10:35 PM |
#106 |

Kaine did an excellent job... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-31-06 10:41 PM |
#113 |
 
Totally agree with you - and I disagree with 90% posts on this thread |
Turn CO Blue |
Jan-31-06 10:43 PM |
#114 |
 
I agree. While I feel like I'm ready to explode, we need someone who |
mzmolly |
Jan-31-06 10:46 PM |
#117 |
 
Good for the audience |
sandnsea |
Jan-31-06 11:00 PM |
#127 |
 
Totally and completely agree with you. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-01-06 12:04 AM |
#171 |

Nice guy probably. Horrible spokesman. |
karlrschneider |
Jan-31-06 10:44 PM |
#115 |
 
Trust me, he grows on you. |
Virginian |
Jan-31-06 11:34 PM |
#151 |
  
I also think Kaine and Mark Warner paved the way for the BIG success |
Virginian |
Jan-31-06 11:50 PM |
#155 |
  
Agree, and it's ridiculous |
Penndems |
Feb-01-06 12:11 AM |
#173 |
 
Oh, he is. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-01-06 12:22 AM |
#174 |

Needs some practice with his speeches |
Kni7es |
Jan-31-06 10:47 PM |
#118 |

what I saw looked fine |
renate |
Jan-31-06 10:52 PM |
#120 |

he's Walt Disney, and we needed Keyser Soze |
Blue_Tires |
Jan-31-06 10:54 PM |
#121 |

I was disappointed in the choice of Kaine. |
flashdebadge |
Jan-31-06 10:59 PM |
#125 |
 
People who didn't vote for Kerry 2 years ago... |
Wolsh |
Jan-31-06 11:01 PM |
#129 |

He did as well as he could. I think the dems are trying to avoid seeming |
xTNliberalx |
Jan-31-06 11:00 PM |
#128 |

Through hellfire and brimstone, it's Kaine! And he's BORING. |
ColonelTom |
Jan-31-06 11:03 PM |
#130 |
 
Passion is important and it was hard to detect in his response. |
flashdebadge |
Jan-31-06 11:10 PM |
#134 |
  
Hard to detect. He had the passion of a wet noodle. |
Neshanic |
Jan-31-06 11:13 PM |
#137 |
  
I would have liked to hear Feingold. Why not hear people who aren't well |
wordpix2 |
Feb-01-06 12:03 AM |
#170 |
 
I like tough Dems, and if it had been me I would have been yelling |
PBass |
Jan-31-06 11:21 PM |
# |
  
How about next year Sen. Paul Hackett delivers the response? |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-31-06 11:27 PM |
#143 |
 
Well, if laying out the truth is boring to you. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-01-06 12:02 AM |
#169 |

Politics is theater, and that was high-school, not Broadway. |
ColonelTom |
Feb-01-06 09:03 AM |
#183 |

Kaine exceeded my expectations |
Cugel the Clever |
Jan-31-06 11:21 PM |
#140 |

I sure did like that response! |
mdmc |
Jan-31-06 11:21 PM |
#141 |

We need better leaders. |
balzac |
Jan-31-06 11:30 PM |
#144 |
 
Really, it should have been Cindy Sheehan. |
balzac |
Jan-31-06 11:31 PM |
#145 |
  
Even Michael Moore would have been fine. |
balzac |
Jan-31-06 11:31 PM |
#147 |
 
Aweful response. Put Gore up there. |
Singular73 |
Jan-31-06 11:31 PM |
#146 |
  
After this week, what do we get? Howdy fricking Doody! |
fooj |
Jan-31-06 11:34 PM |
#150 |
 
i needed a laugh about now. Thanks |
flashdebadge |
Jan-31-06 11:52 PM |
#156 |
 
About the time we think the Democratic Leadership is starting to |
INdemo |
Jan-31-06 11:35 PM |
#153 |
 
You say we need "better leaders". Better than who? Who do you suggest? |
flashdebadge |
Feb-01-06 12:06 AM |
#172 |

Kaine didn't thrill me |
MadisonProgressive |
Jan-31-06 11:35 PM |
#152 |
 
If you can keep your head while all around you are losing theirs... |
Virginian |
Feb-01-06 09:53 AM |
#186 |

lol Bill Clinton should have been dragged back |
JusticeForAll |
Jan-31-06 11:45 PM |
#154 |
 
well he would have to have been "dragged back" as you put it b/c |
flashdebadge |
Jan-31-06 11:56 PM |
#160 |

And the Question Is: |
WLKjr |
Jan-31-06 11:56 PM |
#159 |

The DLCers still think that what |
LibDemAlways |
Feb-01-06 12:33 AM |
#176 |
 
Yep. "Republican Lite" again. Now with 75% less charisma! nt |
ColonelTom |
Feb-01-06 09:10 AM |
#184 |

Ariana Huffington on Dem response to SOTU: "MY WORST FEARS REALIZED" |
Nothing Without Hope |
Feb-01-06 06:45 AM |
#179 |

The theme wasn't bad--delivery sucked |
bklyncowgirl |
Feb-01-06 06:55 AM |
#180 |

Instead of "We can do better." how about |
Imalittleteapot |
Feb-01-06 08:17 AM |
#181 |

We can do better ! I think it was a good move |
dmordue |
Feb-01-06 09:03 AM |
#182 |
Nikki Stone 1
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:17 PM
Response to Original message |
morffin
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
Jeanette in FL
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:17 PM
Response to Original message |
| 2. "Poor Choices and Bad Management" |
rodeodance
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #2 |
| 108. Tim dissed how the Fed gov is screwing up--leaving a mess to our |
HillDem
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:17 PM
Response to Original message |
katamaran
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #3 |
| 4. Yeah, he's a Saturday Night Live skit waiting to happen |
Tinksrival
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:19 PM
Original message |
krkaufman
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:48 PM
Response to Original message |
| 119. Yeah, that eyebrow is ridiculous. Makes him look silly. n/t |
The Backlash Cometh
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #3 |
| 89. Someone on DU was hilarious. |
hedda_foil
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:18 PM
Response to Original message |
| 5. He's an absolutely terrible speaker. |
Joe the Revelator
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 9. Give the kid a break.... |
Pirate Smile
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 10. I've liked it so far. |
Midlodemocrat
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 163. He is spot on with all the points he is making. |
d_b
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:18 PM
Response to Original message |
| 6. Is this Bush's younger brother? |
Coexist
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:18 PM
Response to Original message |
| 7. whats with the goofy half=smile? |
Roxy66
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #7 |
| 23. This is not a time to have a smirk on your face....these are serious times |
Jeanette in FL
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:18 PM
Response to Original message |
| 8. I'm Sorry, this is weak |
Joe the Revelator
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #8 |
| 14. If nothing else its good press for warner nt |
TornadoTN
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #8 |
| 21. I hate this, and I really like Kaine |
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Not the type of face you want out there after the SOTU.
Kaine has a great message, but this is forced and very stale. Definately not what Kaine does best. This is what happens when someone else writes your speech that doesn't have a clue about the speaker.
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proud patriot
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:18 PM
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frankly_fedup2
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:19 PM
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| 12. Best managed state (yes, our budget is balanced), we are fiscally |
kevinbgoode
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Wed Feb-01-06 12:36 AM
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| 177. and you burn your gay residents for fuel. |
jsamuel
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:19 PM
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| 13. nothing against the guy, but he is talking as fast as Bush... |
upi402
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:19 PM
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| 15. better than the Pelosi mummy one. put the eyebrow down man |
NRaleighLiberal
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:19 PM
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| 16. Seems like a nice guy. In this climate, nice guys finish last. Can't |
Pithy Cherub
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:19 PM
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| 17. Is his eyebrow the only thing that's animated? |
Tinksrival
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:21 PM
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rodeodance
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:25 PM
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| 44. Xena did the eyebrow thing also. any fans out there? |
OffWithTheirHeads
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Wed Feb-01-06 12:29 AM
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| 175. Xena had other ass etts that nade her |
Nikki Stone 1
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:19 PM
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otohara
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:21 PM
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frankly_fedup2
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:26 PM
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| 57. No. It's because we are the only state in the country who has a |
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balanced budget, we are not in debt, plus we are fiscally responsible.(thanks to Mark Warner one-term Governor like he promised). Tim Kaine was the Lt. Governor under Warner (who is going to run in 08).
Mostly VA government is a mixed bunch of Dems and Republicans working together to get something done.
Mostly though, we get along.
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soothsayer
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:31 PM
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| 91. ALL politicians should be limited to one term. I love that about |
wordpix2
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:53 PM
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| 157. I agree: strict term limits. Or we get gov of the incumbents, by the in- |
librechik
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:33 PM
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| 148. Tim is a new face, thus no partisan baggage to target him with |
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how could the dems use a presidential hopeful (Warner, Hillary) without the speech being automatically dissed? I wish they had used Murtha, instead of hiding their heads in the sand like good little boys and girls.
Feh. we are so screwed.
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Midlodemocrat
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:58 PM
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otohara
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:20 PM
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carolinalady
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:20 PM
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Vulture
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Wed Feb-01-06 12:01 AM
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| 168. I think he has a live weasel stapled to his forehead... |
upi402
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:20 PM
Original message |
| Please, bring out Gore as a closer |
calmblueocean
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:20 PM
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| 20. I think Kaine is doing good! |
mzmolly
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:35 PM
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| 110. You nailed it! He *politely* laid out Bush's failures on taxes, the |  |
Pirate Smile
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:20 PM
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| 22. Geez, some of you guys are hostile. |
jsamuel
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:21 PM
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| 27. I don't have anything against him, but I could hear everyone in my neighbo |
Pirate Smile
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:26 PM
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| 56. Well, that happens every time with a response. Frankly, these |
frankly_fedup2
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:30 PM
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| 87. Isn't that the truth. They don't even know anything about Tim Kaine or |
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Mark Warner and are basing their judgements on his eyebrow. He is not going to run for president (for a while anyway).
Wow, on CSPAN a neocon said Kaine was bashing everything Bush said.
No one listens to anything.
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Virginian
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:18 PM
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| 139. Kaine ran the cleanest campaign I have seen lately, and he WON! |
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His neo-con rival tried to pull all the usual republican dirty tricks and the GOP got national help to try to get their base stirred up. It didn't work against Kaine. He just good-guyed his way to a victory.
We aren't evil like the Republicans and we can't out-mean the meanest guys in town.
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Catchawave
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:21 PM
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| 26. Kaine's doing well....go Timmy ! |
Clark2008
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:30 PM
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| 86. I love Tim, Catch, but... this was boring. |
Catchawave
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:35 PM
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| 105. CNN's giving him high marks. |
Clark2008
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:41 PM
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| 112. CNN is giving him high marks? |
wordpix2
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:55 PM
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| 158. msnbc with Tweety Bird says he was boring, not hard hitting |
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I liked him but he was staring at the monitor to the side, the teleprompter should have been straight ahead and not to the side.
Just my opinion
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NRaleighLiberal
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:22 PM
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| 29. We severely overestimate the attention span and intelligence of |
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those we need to reach. Too many messages, too many words. I would have rather seen someone from our side come out succinctly, on a few messages - and swinging!
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carolinalady
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:23 PM
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| 35. agree- one of my favorite soap boxes! n/t |
NRaleighLiberal
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:23 PM
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| 36. He is doing a Mr. Rogers....we need more of a Mr. T for this stuff. |
sandnsea
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:56 PM
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loudsue
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Wed Feb-01-06 02:22 AM
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| 178. You mean like Howard Dean, Wes Clark, Ted Kennedy, Al Gore, et al |
jonas_stradlater
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:22 PM
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| 30. I can't get over his looks |
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It's shallow but jesus, put down that eyebrow and wipe that fucking smirk off your face, Kaine. Plus, where is the outrage? I wanna see someone angry and forceful. Kaine's probably a good guy but this is LAME.
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Joe the Revelator
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:23 PM
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| 34. He's nailing them on Iraq... |
jonas_stradlater
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:34 PM
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| 103. Maybe I'm just still pissed from the speech |
Liberal_Art
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:15 PM
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| 138. Nailing them with what? |
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He is saying the SAME stuff that we have been saying for the last 3 years. No one is paying attention to it anymore. We don't need the same Blah, Blah, Blah, We need a plan.
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calmblueocean
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:23 PM
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| 37. Everyone who can be outraged already is |
Roxy66
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:25 PM
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| 51. Can I wake up yet!!!! OMFG>>>>This is fucking WEAK!!!!! |
Nevernose
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:26 PM
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| 54. A little more passion couldn't hurt |
Midlodemocrat
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:59 PM
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patricia92243
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:22 PM
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messiah
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:22 PM
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| 32. another stiff uncharismatic response |
greyl
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:24 PM
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| 39. It looks like patient pleading and rational info to me. nt |
bagimin
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:22 PM
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| 33. he's partially surprised! |
Tinksrival
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:25 PM
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tgnyc
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:24 PM
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JusticeForAll
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:24 PM
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| 40. ugh...We can do better? |
nickinSTL
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Wed Feb-01-06 09:13 AM
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if they wanted a moderate, why not someone with speaking ability like Obama?
Of course, if they actually wanted to answer, there are lots of possibilities, Gore, Kennedy, etc.
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DemonGoddess
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:25 PM
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Feb-01-06 12:00 AM
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| 167. I love Al Gore, but he LOST. |
Nevernose
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:25 PM
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| 42. He's better on what he knows better; and a crappy teleprompter |
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His intro was terrible, more confidence on education.
His visual cues -- the look down, the eyebrow thing -- not very good, they were scripted, and SEEMED that way.
The teleprompter, IMO, is causing some jerkiness.
Not very emphatic where he needs to be, like on "there's a better way."
I like what he says, just not how he says it. I still have hope for the guy, though -- give him a few more years, and this Kaine (sp?) guy may be a force to reckon with.
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NRaleighLiberal
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:25 PM
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| 43. Should be a simple retort. The Pugs are corrupt. They lied, and continue |
rodeodance
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:26 PM
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| 58. says dems of leading the way----well,,, if they shout loud enough! |
Wordie
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:25 PM
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| 46. FYI...site with media tools for fighting SOTU spin, here: |
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Media Center SWAT Team We give you all the tools and resources you need at our Media Swat Team Center to send a letter-to-the-editor directly to your local newspaper, receive call-in numbers for national radio shows, email one of the pundits on the cable news channels and call into the Democrats line at C-SPAN. Only have a minute, click on the links to the online polls that are available to vote on the President's performance. Fight back against Republican Spin Machine Now! http://www.dccc.org/rubberstampcongress/howrubberstamps...
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Sydnie
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:25 PM
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| 47. this should be Gore or Rangel or Boxer or Kerry |
hjash
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:25 PM
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Lexingtonian
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:25 PM
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| 49. There's no response in this "response". |
carolinalady
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
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| 65. He stipulated that he writes his own material but he did have |
Nikki Stone 1
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:25 PM
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| 50. He sounds nice and unthreatening to middle of the road voters |
FogerRox
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
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| 71. Randi Rhodes should have done it |
Nevernose
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
Original message |
| MOTR voters want someone who BELIEVES |
CornField
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:29 PM
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| 78. I agree -- he was calm and reasonable |
yourout
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:26 PM
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| 52. This is lame and uninspiring......we can do better than this. |
rusty charly
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
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qanda
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:26 PM
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NRaleighLiberal
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:26 PM
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| 55. Folks....sorry, but we are in DEEP SHIT. This approach DOES NOT WORK |
JFN1
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:00 PM
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calmblueocean
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:26 PM
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| 59. WTF do you folks want? |
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Geez, anyone remember the trainwreck that was Pelosi's response? I can't believe DU sometimes. Kaine is doing great work here, explaining our positions extremely well in a way that doesn't alienate people. If you can't see that, you're not looking. And the eyebrow keeps people watching. 
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Joe the Revelator
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #59 |
| 64. Why don't we let Cindy Sheehan give the response! |
rusty charly
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:30 PM
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| 83. cindy's been arrested |
Virginian
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:10 PM
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| 135. Cindy was arrested by the fashion police for wearing wrong shirt. n/t |
rodeodance
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
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| 66. He is Ok--rather quiet in tone is my problem. |
qanda
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
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| 74. He should have practiced this speech |
erinlough
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:30 PM
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| 84. You're right, I don't know what they should do anymore......... |
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but I do know I don't want more of the same, praying "earnestly" for bi-partisanship...hasn't got us anywhere so far. We will, I'm afraid, have to wait a while longer for something else to come around and turn the tide. I don't think this will do it.
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Pirate Smile
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:55 PM
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| 122. LOL. I hadn't thought about that. |
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I think he did fine.
People not sold on the Dems but unhappy with Bush sometimes think that the Dems just attack Bush. Kaine's response was trying to make the sale to them, I think.
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JFN1
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:03 PM
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Our response should elicit a response from someone other than SNL. Seriously, who are they afraid they're going to piss off - Republicans? Puh-lease...
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fooj
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:33 PM
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| 149. A passionate response would have been quite effective! |
Idioteque
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:26 PM
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| 60. Culture of partisanship any cronyism? |
Nevernose
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:27 PM
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| 61. Bill Clinton he is not.... |
Joe the Revelator
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
Original message |
| Did you see Clintons Keynote Address at the 88 convention? nt |
Ovett
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:27 PM
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NRaleighLiberal
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:27 PM
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| 63. First Kaine Bingo Word...SERVICE. helllllppppp!!!!!!!!!!! |
mb7588a
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
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| 67. jon meacham on msnbc says |
54anickel
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
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| 68. Sounds pretty good if the intended audience is Repubs. But gads, |
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I just went into the other room to get a glimpse - terrible! The eyebrow, the fake smile, looks like a used car salesman (no offense meant to anyone in that profession).
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Sydnie
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
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| 69. Frist and Obama on with Brian Williams |
FlaGranny
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
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What else can I say? He's not bad if you don't look at him. His eyebrow is driving me crazy, that along with that continuous smile and soft, sweet voice. He doesn't project a very commanding presence.
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Tinksrival
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
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Roxy66
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
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| 73. WE NEEDED OBAMA!!! I am so sick of this weak shit!!! |
Roxy66
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #73 |
| 79. We needed him for our response!! |
Pillager
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #73 |
rodeodance
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #73 |
| 82. Dems who have been Presidents have been centrist (host) |
PegDAC
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:33 PM
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Tinksrival
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:56 PM
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Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 10:58 PM by Tinksrival
Wes had true fire for the America I know and love and miss. Vision and Leadership, and true solutions for all of the blivets messes!
edit to add: And Passion! Wes has a true passion for whats right!
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frankly_fedup2
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #73 |
| 101. The Democratic leadership has been pushing Obama to the front |
wordpix2
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #101 |
| 162. they didn't put him out front tonight, they should have |
Turn CO Blue
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #73 |
| 116. Please. Have you really disected Obama's speeches? |
PVK
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #73 |
| 132. Or the Tedster. Or, better yet, KERRY. n/t |
wordpix2
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #73 |
| 161. agree. Obama is the best orator, put him out there and let's hear him |
jsamuel
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
Response to Original message |
| 76. CBS: Kaine is a VEEERY conservative Dem, he made some religious references |
Pirate Smile
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #76 |
| 111. Yes, because we can't cede all voters of faith to the Republicans. |
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We can't or we won't win.
A lot of them are not RW'ers so why would we not try to speak to them? Please, stop taking it as an act of hostility against your views just becase a Democrat mentions it.
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jsamuel
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:11 PM
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| 136. did you read my post? |
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CBS said that.
I was highlighting the stupidity of CBS. A man makes a few religious references and all of a sudden he is a "VEEEEERY conservative Dem."
I wasn't criticizing Kaine. Don't be so sensitive.
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Pirate Smile
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #136 |
| 142. Sorry. I thought it was your opinion. I've seen a lot of people get |
Pillager
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:28 PM
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| 77. Wonder if that eyebrow hurts? |
Tristan
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:29 PM
Response to Original message |
| 80. They let dems get pushed around |
rodeodance
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #80 |
| 85. Feinstein gives him a B--msnbc now. |
rodeodance
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #85 |
| 90. says Jr did lttle for health care in this speech--a concern for many. |
rusty charly
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:32 PM
Original message |
Sydnie
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:31 PM
Response to Original message |
| 88. Frist talking about obstruction - Obama up now |
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Williams asking what he didn't hear
2/3rds of country think we are moving in the wrong direction
fuel, education ... no bold approach asking us to meet this challenge together.
Can't we do better?
"dems rose in sarcastic applause" <-- Brian Williams
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rodeodance
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #88 |
| 95. saying needs to get warrant . Period! |
rodeodance
(1000+ posts)
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #95 |
| 99. cindy wore T-shirt with # of dead on her T-shirt. Diane said that will |
rodeodance
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #99 |
| 102. it was kinda cute--Diane did not want to diss Cindy. |
wordpix2
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Tue Jan-31-06 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #102 |
| 165. My impression was that DiFi was laughing at the thought of Cindy running |
54anickel
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #88 |
| 107. Was that the brew-ha during SOTU? Dems sarcastic applause? |
SPKrazy
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:31 PM
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| 92. "There is a better way" |
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Spoken with no emotion, and bad inflection.
This guy said little, sounded trite, and looked goofy with the rogue eyebrow.
Is there no one that the Dems could have gotten that would have been better?
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Sydnie
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Tue Jan-31-06 10:31 PM
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| 93. Russert says the one thing that will get done this year - lobbying reform. |