Snow - was supposed to be 2 inches, getting 8+ inches.

[Target_For_Exterm]

It's still snowing.

What do you think? Global warming or just beneficial coincidence to make it feel like the holidays?

I don't much like the wild weather from global warming - heat waves suck, but a little snow now and then isn't so bad. I like to watch it fall. Much more soothing than watching Bush or his minions lie on TV.

How can the world be a bad place when it's covered with the clean, fluffy white stuff? :P

As long as it doesn't turn into the snowy version of Noah's Ark! Which, if global warming gets really bad, might not be as impossible as it sounds...

Has anyone heard of any research being done on the effects of global warming on snowfall patterns?

[WI_DEM]

1. It means the weather forcaster was off and probably a sudden

change in front brought more snow than was expected.

[NYCGirl]

2. It's been in the 60s here in NYC — but is becoming "seasonable" on the

weekend.

[warrens]

7. Same in Chicago

It was 70 at 3 a.m. Sunday morning (I was at a concert and ended up talking with people in Wicker Park until nearly 5...no one wanted to go home...) and it will be 66 tomorrow. Then 32 for a high on Friday, which we will promptly send your way for the weekend.

[marmar]

13. Same about 270 miles to the east in Detroit....

It felt like mid-April today with gorgeous sunshine.

[moc]

17. Are they calling for snow in Chicago? I'm flying up for the day

on Friday. Just don't want to be delayed or I'll miss most of the meeting.

I have to go out and buy buttons for my heavy coat, which I only wear 1-2x/year down here in Texas, lol. :-)

[Bjornsdotter]

44. Not really

Light flurries only....no problems.

Cheers

[moc]

54. ::phew:: Thanks for the info!

You know us southerners - classic "weather wimps"!

:toast:

[Starlight]

12. I've been forcing the fall/winter sweaters and cords anyway.

[Suich]

3. Where are you? n/t

[Target_For_Exterm]

5. Utah - a bit early for snow here, I think.

I haven't lived here long, so I'm not really sure about that, but it seems all the prior years I've been here the snow hasn't really started in until January.

[JuniperLea]

4. Where you at, Target?

Weather is yin and yang...

I just upgraded my boss' flight to Seattle so he can be delayed in first class instead... my contact in SEA says people don't know how to act!

:)

[TahitiNut]

11. "The user has disabled his/her user profile."

I just love it when folks disable their profile and then post about a local event without saying where 'local' is. Considerate. Courteous. Thoughtful. :eyes:

[Target_For_Exterm]

16. Nope, just newbie stupid.

Mea culpa. :blush:

[JuniperLea]

37. Welcome to DU, Target!

Live and learn... :)

[JuniperLea]

35. Yeah, I was going to mention that:)

What really cracks me up about that deal is it really hides nothing... anyone who really wanted to track that person down could lift their IP address from their post and then find the physical address from where it eminates...

:)

I used to know a real bitch who LOVED to do that to people on another message board! She even got one poster fired from her job by posting her business name and address. I'd never go that far... but it's sometimes a hoot to know I can! Especially when people THINK they are being soooo secretive! hahahaha!


:rofl:

[elocs]

55. Locks are to keep honest people honest. Does that mean you do not lock your door?

Yes, there are people online who can find out anything about you, but I notice that the vast majority of people who post here and on other message boards do not use their real names, and for very good reason. There are a lot of nut cases out there, so the more personal information you with hold, probably the better. As for myself, here at DU the most important thing for you to know about me is that I am a life-long Democrat who has voted for, worked for, and given money to Democratic candidates. You don't NEED to know anything else, but for a point of reference I would add that I am from Wisconsin. Online, the less information about yourself which you volunteer, the better off you will be. DU has 98,000+ members and my guess is that not all of them are nice people and there are certainly some who I would not trust with a dog I liked.

[JuniperLea]

58. I think you should re-read my posts on this thread

We are on the same side in this issue... and I gave some very valuable information as to how safe you really are even posting under a name other than your own...

[elocs]

74. Yes, I read your posts.

I take your point that nobody is totally safe, but not everybody is going to go the extra mile to find out everything. A screen name is enough to stop most people. A screen name and a location makes it easier. Your real name makes it easier yet and add to that your location as well as other personal information makes it even easier. So you at least lock the door knowing that if somebody is determined to get in, they probably can. The alternative probably is to never post at all. I have seen private people online post their real name as well as their address and phone number. That's the equivalent to leaving the door open with a sign saying "come on in".

[JuniperLea]

75. With all those precautions

Someone can still read your IP address and find where you live... that's my point. The risk is not in what you show in your profile, but by virtue of the fact you are posting on the Internets at all. The posting is where the danger lies.

[elocs]

78. Not all "someones" will go to the bother of reading and pursuing your ip address.

That is all I am saying. The more you show in your profile, thinking it is totally innocent, the more information you give. It is easier to get into my house if I leave the door open or unlocked. Not everyone would bother to bust down the door or pick the lock. I would choose to give the absolute minimum in my profile and other than here I never give one at all. Precautions just make it more difficult for the bad guys or the nosy.

[JuniperLea]

83. Anyone who wants in your house, locked or not

Or wants to find your identity on the internets, is going to do it. Keeping your profile locked only serves to make you look suspicious. The bad guys have all the right toys. I knew a woman once who actually got someone fired because she posted the other woman's IP address, business name and business address simply by very easily, without much work at all, lifting the IP address. She is a real bitch. It's no trouble to do it once you understand how it works... not hard at all... in fact, anyone who really wants to do it isn't even going to bother with your profile.

You don't need to pick the lock when you have a key in your hand.

[elocs]

98. Your profile, like everything else you put online, can be a lie.

That's right, what a novel concept! People lie online! I can SAY I am a Democrat, but there is no way you can know. I can SAY I am from Wisconsin, but how do you know? Profiles, can mean nothing. I could care less who considers my profile or lack of one to be suspicious because here there are enough people who are suspicious if you disagree with what they say or believe. I am not seeking to please anyone here or to gain their approval.

Concerning this exchange, this is a clear case of failure to communicate. Somebody can always find out more about you online than you want known and somebody can always get into your house if they want to do it. I see no reason to make it easier to do in either of those cases. I really thought that it was a simple comparison, but evidently it is not clear to you.

Please excuse me while I disable my profile. My only obligation here at DU is to obey the rules and there is no rule that says you must have a profile. I will be judged by what I actually "say" and not by what I "claim" is true about me. People can think or suspect whatever they like because they usually do, and not for the better. If I posted to please everyone, I wouldn't have much interesting or new to say as I just "amen" the popular opinion of the day, and there always is one.

[JuniperLea]

99. I always have to chuckle when people don't get what you're saying

Then turn around and accuse you of not getting it.

[bobbolink]

56. Yeah, I had a DUer send me PETA hate mail to my home addy.

Yanno, especially for a woman alone, that's really scary.

Do you think it gave me warm, fuzzy thoughts about PETA?

[JuniperLea]

57. That is freaky scary!

I don't like those tactics at all...

I always thought PETA was a farce anyway... until all children go to bed with a fully belly and under a solid roof, chinchillas can be raised for their fur for all I care. Once all the kids are taken care of, then I'll worry about the animals.

[bobbolink]

59. Oh, thanks, Juniperx! I appreciate your priorities!!!

I can't get out of my mind the picture of the homeless man on a corner, with a sign that said, "If I was a dog, would you help me?"

:cry:

ANd, yes, I love the internets, but some of it's uses are really scarey!

[Target_For_Exterm]

62. And the sad truth is that the dog probably would get more help.

Bush's America.

[bobbolink]

63. Unfortunately, can't blame that on *. Has been ever thus in US of A

There was an ASPCA l-o-n-g before there was any children's advocacy.

And it continues.... much more advocacy for animals. Just think of the animal rescues... don't have that for people!!

I was very tempted to really raise a ruckus where I am (CO), because there were all kinds of efforts, this far away, to rescue and foster animals from Katrina, yet homeless people here are completely forgotten!

I ask you....

[greyl]

82. "lift their IP address from their post" ?

How would you do that here?

[JuniperLea]

84. Google IP address searches

You'll find a lot of free software and plenty of message boards that will give you step by step instructions. It's pretty easy.

[greyl]

88. No, I don't think so.

How can you lift an IP addie from this board?

[JuniperLea]

90. There are several ways to do it with ALL message boards

I'm not going to advertise the ways... if you are interested, Google is your friend.



http://www.ip-adress.com/

[greyl]

91. No, I don't think so.

Tell me, what's my ip address?

[JuniperLea]

93. I don't have the software

But I know people who do. And if you would bother to read a little, you would see I'm right.

All message boards record IP addresses. If you don't think there's a way to hack into that, you are pretty naive.

There are proxy addresses that used to be able to mask... but there's ways around that now as well.

Click here...

http://www.ip-adress.com /


That one is different, but just as easy.

[greyl]

94. You don't have a case.

You said ip addresses could be lifted from posts at DU, but you've provided zero evidence of that.

[JuniperLea]

96. It's a message board

Read for yourself.

How do you think people can be banned?




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[greyl]

97. We've bumped this weather thread enough.

Tell ya what: Start a thread in GD politely giving fair warning to DUers that their IP addies can be lifted from their posts, by other members, or by any non-members browsing here., and explain how.
It's no secret that admins can have access to IP addies, but that's not what you're arguing.

[kestrel91316]

61. The post's FIRST WORD ("utah") might give you a clue.

[TahitiNut]

64. In my dictionary, S-N-O-W spells snow.

I don't know what YOU'RE looking at (the lining of your colon?), but you can take your fucking 'clue' and use it for a suppository as far as I'm concerned. So, go stick it there with your 'tude!

[Target_For_Exterm]

66. I think he was talking about my post #5, which says I'm

from Utah. Let's all calm down. It's no big deal, and we're all friends here. Let's keep our ire directed at Bush and his pals, where it can do some good.

[TahitiNut]

68. That wasn't posted when I opened the thread and replied.

That's post #5 and I replied to post #4 ... the latest one in the thread when I read it. Contary to what some may think, it takes time (about 5 minutes in this case) to read a thread and compose a reply - more for some than others. Some folks have dial-up or ISDN or low-speed cable connections. Some folks have distractions (phone calls, etc.) when posting.

Nonetheless, the point is a valid one even if minor. Most "pet peeves" are minor and hardly worth playing rescuer on a white horse. For some self-indulged bird-brain to condescending suggest I can't read the word 'utah' in the OM (where it doesn't exist) is arrogant thread-copping on steroids.

[JuniperLea]

70. And that would have helped if it were in the first post

Which is what we were talking about...

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

6. That'll teach me: ALWAYS read the first word of the subject FIRST. -nt

[Target_For_Exterm]

9. Pshaw - I don't want to know what ran through your mind!

:)

[Turbineguy]

41. On another thread

there's something about an 8000 pound hummer.

:evilgrin:

[Target_For_Exterm]

47. That would have to be Bush's mind... it's the only one that's

empty enough to fit an 8000 lb Hummer!

:rofl:

[Ilsa]

8. I'm wearing a linen tank top today. It's 80 and warm here in so Texas. nt

[Target_For_Exterm]

10. That's it - just rub it in. Still summer there for ya, eh?

I was reading that Texas might get hit by some freezing rain, though, and you know what THAT means - ice storm! Tank top to overcoat in a couple hours, that's Texas.

I used to live in Texas a ways back...

[kimmerspixelated]

25. Me, too,

and I can't wait to get back. I'm a native. But seriously folks, global warming isn't all just about getting more summery. It has to do with the temp of the sea currents , and how that effects the farenheit. A tipping point(stalling the movement of the oceans) could easily frost us( to put it mildly) all over, and then Texas might be more like Minnesota at best! THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW was not just imagination.

[Target_For_Exterm]

30. Then it really would be a snowy Noah's Ark

When I watched "Day After Tomorrow" I wondered how it would affect Utah. We'd probably end up 20 feet deep, even though it's a desert in the summer.

[Ilsa]

45. Yeah, it's the quickness of the change that sets people off here, too.

I prefer the cooler temps, but not looking forward to freezing rain if it makes it that far down here.

[SammyWinstonJack]

95. I'd like some snow or at least some cooler weather. Tomorrow, or so they are saying.

:shrug: Sixties isn't cold, but I'll take it.

[ceile]

52. Not quite 80, but close!

Gosh I love TX winter weather!

edit to add "winter", TX summers SUCK!

[Target_For_Exterm]

53. What - you don't like the heat and humidity?

Or the tornados? ;)

[Lone_Star_Dem]

100. Today it was in the 80's here. Tonight freezing rain, sleet and in the low 30's.

Texas weather, if you don't like it wait a minute, it'll change.

[Taoschick]

14. Global warming?

I tend to lean towards natural cyclical weather patterns.

This is an El Niño year. So, those of us in New Mexico can probably look forward to a decent snowfall after last year's disaster and those in the southeast might have to dodge ice storms again.

[fleabert]

71. seriously?

don't believe Global Warming exists? I suggest you see An Inconvenient Truth.

[Taoschick]

80. Of course

Global warming exists. Global cooling exists as well.

As for my opinion on the causes, the jury is still out for me on whether or not man is causing cataclysmic changes to the planet. Weather forecasting is an imperfect science. They can't predict the weather in Northern New Mexico with any accuracy unless there is no moisture and no winds. Our forecasts in the monsoon season and winters literally change by the hour yet I'm supposed to accept on faith computer predictions of gloom and doom for the future? And how about the predictions for the massive hurricane season we were supposed to receive this year?

I'm a skeptic and I will remain so until we can come up with a system to accurately predict what's going to happen in the long term. We are not there yet.

[fleabert]

86. have you seen An Inconvenient Truth? nt

[Donnachaidh]

15. please send some of it to Atlanta!

I haven't been able to participate in my favorite winter sport of watching the big wheeled trucks drive into ditches. :sarcasm:

[Taoschick]

19. Yeah, but

they have to compete with the SUVs with drivers from the "I know how to drive in the Snow" northeast that blast down the hills and into ditches when they realize there's a hell of a lot more ice on the roads than snow. ;)

[catmandu57]

40. The first measurable snow is always a pain

People forget how to drive in it, they have to relearn what to do. We're expecting precip here in nwmo, the trouble is it looks like it has a better chance of being an ice storm.
I hate ice, all bets are off, even the best drivers lose control, and the morans seem to lose brain power in bad conditions.

[Donnachaidh]

67. black ice is a real bite here --

especially with the morons who have their sprinklers on a timer and forget to turn them OFF when the weather calls for freezing temperatures. One of the main roads just south of us turned into a very nasty skating rink last year.

[Target_For_Exterm]

23. LOL! Is that after 1 or 2 snowflakes?

I've lived in sunny areas before, and a little dab of snow always makes folks in sunny states go crazy. That's probably why I love the stuff so much now. I didn't have to spend endless amounts of time in it over the years, so it still has it's mystery.

But drat, no trucks in ditches here... :shrug:

[Donnachaidh]

65. my very first winter here

had approximately 2 or 3 inches on the ground. We lived in a complex with curvy roads and a lake in the center of the complex.

We brought out lawn chairs, sat on our back porch with our coffee, and made bets as to who would hit the lake first. It was a very enjoyable day :evilgrin:

[Target_For_Exterm]

69. LOL! That's so funny, and so true. I lived many years in

the sunny states, and was scared to death to drive in the snow when I moved here. But I find it easier to drive in than I thought it would be. Go figure. Ice is another story. Lot's of ice in Texas, shuts the whole place down. But folks here are pretty quick to salt the roads and do whatnot to keep the ice under control on the roads. So driving in the snow in kinda fun.

[TransitJohn]

18. Joke: What's the difference between the weatherman and Lorena Bobbitt?

When Lorena Bobbitt says there's gonna be 6" on the ground, there's gonna be 6" on the ground.

[Target_For_Exterm]

24. LOL! Good one.

:rofl:

[crazyblueracer]

20. No snow in Ohio!!

Not snowing here but I wish it was. I love the snow!!!

I'm still undecided on global warming. I used to believe it but now I'm not so sure. There are too many arguements on each side. It is possible that the earth is going through one of its climate cycles that it makes. On the other side, we sure don't do anything to help with all of our pollution.

[zbdent]

21. Maybe the forecasts were from

a former Republican WH budget person ...

[Target_For_Exterm]

28. Wow, they would have predicted sunny days in the 70s!

And when it snowed, they would deny the whole thing and say we were anti-American for bringing it up!

[Warpy]

22. Snow is predicted for central NM

over the next couple of days. Most of it will fall on the Rockies, where it belongs.

Snow here is great. It falls, it looks pretty, and it's pretty much gone from paved surfaces within a couple of hours.

It's very rare that it sticks enough to shovel.

[Taoschick]

29. What part of the state

Are you from? I'm just wondering how far south they actually get snow.

[Warpy]

50. It has more to do with elevation than latitude

[Deja Q]

26. Talk about inflation...

:rofl:

The weather patterns are bizarre, yes... not sure if it's global warming, but more a global shifting.

:shrug:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

27. and here I though you discussed the White house press secretary.

damn.
well, make a snow ball for me.

[Target_For_Exterm]

36. In his case, I'd have to be talking about mounds of BS!

Brr - too shivery to go outside. I went to get the mail and almost fell on my head, silly me. I can't even walk in a little snow. :blush: So I'm staying safe and toasty warm in front of the wood stove (EPA approved, less than EPA lower limit emissions - hoo yah!)

[karlrschneider]

31. I've been outside in shorts & T-shirt all day (oklahoma) but in 48

hours it will be in the 20s. Yuck.

[Rex]

32. Despite the billions we spend, there is no way to predict weather.

It is a silly sport. Might as well read tea leafs.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

33. 55 and raining in Minneapolis.

The grass in my yard has turned green again. Weird.

[Target_For_Exterm]

38. We got your snow. Neener, neener, neener!

OK, snow brings out the kid in me. :blush:

[Gwerlain]

34. Well, I'm not arguing against global warming, but...

that is "weather," not "climate."

The NOAA is constantly doing research on all different types of weather in the US, looking for trends. A poke around their website can lead to days on end of research.

[Occulus]

39. I thought you were talking about an operation Tony was having

:D

[Name removed]

42. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[fleabert]

72. Threats against someone's life aren't funny.

ever.

[Target_For_Exterm]

73. Who said anything about life?

You can cut a long swath, and if it ain't deep, nothing but a bunch of complaints about THAT instead of everything else.

But you're right. Even joking about a long scratch isn't really funny. I'm sorry.

[pansypoo53219]

43. it was 60f in WI for thanksgiving

it's been 50-60f for days. this is NOT right.
had thunder early today.

[seriousstan]

46. WOW!! An inaccurate weather report, that's never happened before.

Sue the weatherman.

[seabeyond]

48. it is coming our way tomorrow and thurs, saying up to 2". i am hoping

for a lot more. bring it on. last year we had almost none. year before wasnt enough for me. this year.... i want to be greedy and get a real snowy winter. nothing like it. all white. i love it. enjoy

[Target_For_Exterm]

49. I have a blue spruce in my front yard. It's covered in snow.

It' looks like a fluffy white and blue christmas tree! How's that for a picture postcard holiday?

[slaveplanet]

51. Didn't it seem like 2 months ago

There was a huge blizzard in Buffalo, NY?

Then we got another 2 months of summer...

[WinkyDink]

60. Okay, I was REALLY wondering there for a sec about Tony.

Yikes!

[mondo joe]

77. "It's two inches - but it's THICK!"

[BeFree]

76. Global warming predictions of climate changes

lean toward us seeing extremes in the climate. Like your 8 inches instead of 2.

Like record highs followed by steep plunges in the days afterward, followed by record highs.

We won't see record lows again except in extreme cases, as the climate overall is warming.

As the balance betweeen lows and highs is battered by GW extreme patterns will emerge.

[lonestarnot]

79. Global warming.

Prollee the warmest winter on record here.

[rainbow4321]

81. 75 in Dallas Today..snow/ice/20's expected on Thursday

Guess I should be used to Texas' weather NON-patterns by now but as I was driving around w/ my windows down in 75 degrees/sunny weather today I found it hard to start thinking about getting my window ice scaper handy for the ice storm that is due to blow into town in 2 days!

Then I get to watch the fools who still choose to drive to the top layer of our 5 story high overpasses, get stuck on the ice, and frantically call 911 to be rescued! Convinced these are the same spring time fools that drive right past our "high water-do not enter" signs in the springtime and need rescuing.

[in_cog_ni_to]

85. I'm just South of Chicago sitting here with all my windows and doors OPEN

for some fresh air...60 degrees at 8:37 A.M. on NOVEMBER 29! In my youth...just a couple of years ago *cough*cough*, we would have had several blizzards by now. We've had this weather for the last 3 years. OUR weather has DEFINITELY changed over the years.

[ProfessorGAC]

87. I'm In The North Suburbs Today

It's raining up here, but quite warm. Got to be pushing 60. A little gloomy and i just heard thunder out to the west, but warm.
The Professor

[Retrograde]

89. near freezing last night in San Jose

It will probably get up to the mid 50s by late afternoon. Brrrr.

Central heating? What's that?

[madinmaryland]

92. Hey!! We get 6 feet of Snow everyday!

Normally around 12:15 at the daily White house briefing. At least Helen Thomas is there to clean some of the mess away!

[SmokingJacket]

101. Where the hell are you??

Makes a difference!