Fuck you, Tom Tancredo

[RagingInMiami]

You goddamn, self-hating hypocrite. You are a disgrace to your Italian heritage. To your Latin heritage. How dare you call my city a “third world country”.


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16110727.htm

[EFerrari]

1. Tom Toncredo is too scared to visit Miami, lol, and the Herald

is dancing around trying to report this racist code.

MIAMI HERALD: "We'll print anything!"
:rofl:

[Ken Burch]

2. Italian Americans seldom think of themselves as having a Latin heritage, Raging.

Look at how all the Italian American agribusiness kings and vintners in California treated their "fellow Latin" farmworkers until the UFW made them back off a bit.

People like that see themselves as Roman, not Latin.

Tancredo probably wishes he could wear a toga to the House floor.

[WinkyDink]

8. As an Italian-American, I concur. I doubt if Italians, French, Iberians, or Romanians

think of themselves as "the same", let alone their American descendants.
I never see signs, documents, etc., in a foreign language other than Spanish.

[EFerrari]

13. We have ballots in a bunch of languages here.

But it seems to be true that because of our criminal foreign policy in Latin America, there are many immigrants from that region here. We're still absorbing the displaced folks from Nicaragua and El Salvador that Reagan caused to flee their homes. I think I remember that the San Francisco Bay Area has the biggest population of Nicaraguenses outside of Nicaragua.

I bet Tom is afraid to visit here, too. :)

[RagingInMiami]

25. The Italians are the original Latins

Specifically those who were living in Latium, Central Italy back when the Roman Empired reigned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_cultures

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latium

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Latin

[Ken Burch]

27. I know that, Raging, but that doesn't lead them to see themselves as "Latin"

or to have any fellow feeling whatsoever for "Latin" Hispanics.

It should, but it doesn't.

And it is also part of the immigrant process for each wave of immigrants to see themselves as more "genuinely" American than the immigrants who follow.

The same thing happens with economic refugees.

"Okies" the Dust Bowl refugees from Oklahoma and other states who ended up in California in the Thirties(as chronicled, of course, in THE GRAPES OF WRATH) had no fellow feeling for Chicano farmworkers in the Sixties, even though those people were going through the exact same treatment they had endured thirty years earlier. In fact, the Okies helped inflict discrimination and even violence against the farmworkers during the rise of the UFW.

Too often in this country, suffering does not enable, but simply causes the sufferer to inflict suffering on others.

[wakeme2008]

3. Sorry this Florida person agrees with him

Cuban wack jobs in Miami :shrug:

Just got off a cruise and was talking to another cruiser in the airport in Barbados and she had just moved to Miami with her job a year ago and she could not believe all the shit that went on with Castro went into the hospital...

[EFerrari]

4. So, do you also think Miami is too brown?

Too bad you guys don't speak up at tax time.

lol

[wakeme2008]

5. Not brown but Cuban who think Miami is part of Cuba

:shrug:

[EFerrari]

10. How is that worse than government who believes Latin America

is our rec room?

:shrug:

[formercia]

17. Part of the old Cuba

that was run by the Mafia and the Vatican.

[EFerrari]

32. And who where those other guys, United Fruit?

:)

[Mika]

9. Huh? A few hundred wild-eyed intransigents does not represent a whole city.

Just because the media puts the crazies the spotlight doesn't mean that the whole area is like that.

BTW, I live in Miami.

[RebelOne]

12. I agree with him also.

I grew up in Miami and spent much of my adult life there. Finally, I wised up and moved here to North Georgia. Miami is not the city of my childhood anymore.

[NNN0LHI]

6. The Tancredo Supporters Can All Sing Dixie With The Bigots

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2006/09/tancredo_sings.php

The expression is “You ain’t just whistling Dixie.”

Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo wasn’t whistling. He was singing Dixie. He was also standing in a Columbia, S.C., museum room with Confederate flags and a picture of Robert E. Lee.

{snip}

Tancredo spoke to a crowd that included the League of the South, a secessionist organization that the Southern Poverty Law Center calls a bigoted hate group. The league now embraces Tancredo’s stands on illegal immigration.

It is “highly possible” that members of the South Carolina Council of Conservative Citizens also were on hand for Tancredo’s speech, a local chapter spokesman told me. The CofCC has staged demonstrations for the enforcement-only immigration reform Tancredo backs.

The Southern Poverty Law Center calls the council a hate group, too.

{snip}

You shouldn’t have to grow up, as I did, amidst an American apartheid of separate public schools and separate public pools to see that the Rebel flag, Dixie and their supporters tear Americans apart.

When Tancredo pleads immunity from all this, it’s a wink and a nod. By demonizing illegal immigration, Tancredo has empowered and enjoyed the support of Mexican-hating xenophobes. Now, he has added the progeny of the Confederacy, whose ancestors backed slavery and racial segregation. Tancredo insists he doesn’t share their bigotry. But the people he attracts help define him.

What Tancredo did is like Hillary Clinton appearing with a hammer-and-sickle flag, talking socialized medicine to an audience that includes Communists, then singing the Russian national anthem.

[atomicdawg38]

7. C'mon

If you have been to Miami you know. He's right. Please, actually travel to these places before posting a comment.

[EFerrari]

11. How is this racist right?

:rofl:

[RagingInMiami]

15. "Please, actually travel to these places before posting a comment."

I was born and raised in Miami. I live in Miami. This is my hometown.

I also spent ten years traveling the world, including a visit to Oklahoma City, the city you listed in your profile.

Not to get into a debate over regional stereotypes and geographical superiority, but there is no way in hell I would exchange living in Miami for Oklahoma City.

[trumad]

19. Word

Born in Northshore hospital on 7th ave...grew up in Hialeah/Miami Lakes.... I got the cred just like RagingInMiami.

The diversity of this city especially the Cubans have made Miami one of the great cities of the country.

Oh sure it's got it's problems like every big city, but to call it a 3rd world country is nothing more than racist bullshit.

[Nimrod2005]

26. Ditto.....I live in Ft Lauderdale. What dumbass does not know is that

We love what South Florida is, just like this the way it is....And no I don't feel I live in a foreign country!!!

[kid a]

18. you forgot the dripping sarcasm icon

[RB TexLa]

20. I've been to Miami

People don't and shouldn't leave their culture on the boat or allow it to die with their Grandmother and Grandfather. I love Miami, I guess those of us who respect people for maintaining who they are a dying breed and will probably have to join new immigrants for a 5 or 6 month forced assimilation camp at the Tancredo Center in Davenport, Iowa.

[UTUSN]

14. K&R for the thread title that speaks for me n/t

[RB TexLa]

16. Same shit that was said about Boston and New York

maybe he thinks it will make him seem more Anglo down at the country club by spewing that racist garbage out.

[RagingInMiami]

21. What kills me is that his grandparents were Italian immigrants

Which as a group, were subjected to the same prejudices he is spewing out.

http://www.virtualitalia.com/gene/immigrant.shtml

[AlCzervik]

22. we keep outsourcing everything and the US will be a 3rd world county.

[EFerrari]

35. The Republicans have done their best to ruin our schools,

our university sytem and our health care delivery systems.

It's not that far fetched.

[Oreo]

23. Fuck the voters of CO-06 that voted for him..

over Bill Winter. I proudly voted against Tancredo. Racist bastard.

[intheflow]

24. K&R because any chance to dis Tancredo is worth doing.

I had to deal with him when I lived in Colorado. I couldnt' believe he got re-elected with him hate-spewing ideology. He is a total disgrace to his Latin heritage.
:kick:

[RagingInMiami]

28. Miami Herald columnist's take on Tancredo

But Tancredo is wrong to give immigrants all the credit for the state of our cities. It's only fair to mention the many non-Hispanics who helped make Florida what it is, from ethics trailblazers Henry Milander and Don Warshaw to famous cartoon characters Mickey Mouse and Joe Gersten.

As for ''Third World'' being some kind of insult, it's all in how you look at it. It's true that the gap between rich and poor -- a hallmark of underdevelopment and corruption -- has grown in the United States. But guess which party's policies are to blame?

At the same time, Miami is full of third-world doctors from India, university presidents from Cuba and engineers from the Middle East. If I felt it would make a difference, I would mention all that. But that would be engaging an eggplant. And thoughtful counsel suggests it would be a terrible waste of time.

So, for once, I think I actually agree with Ros-Lehtinen: Come on down, Tom. The water's fine. Honest!

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16118971.htm

[KamaAina]

29. "Look at what has happened to Miami"

Okay, dumbass, let's look. What was once a declining resort town is now a center for world trade. They can't build condos along the bayfront fast enough to sell them to all the people who have made their fortunes in the import-export business or international banking. They now have both local and regional rail transit, and franchises in all four major sports (yes, even hockey). Yes, indeed, Rep.(rehensible) Tancredo, this is a fine example of "how America can be changed by immigration". :grr: :banghead:

[RagingInMiami]

30. And the battle between Tancredo and Miami officials (including fat ass Jeb) heats up

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/elections/16118967.htm

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16136687.htm

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_5179487,00.html

[EFerrari]

31. So, I just emailed the Rocky Mountain News freep dufus to ask

if it was true there were no signs in Spanish in COLORADO.

:rofl:

[KingFlorez]

33. Please let the Republicans nominate him in 2008

It's a really long shot, but there's nothing wrong with hoping

[EFerrari]

34. Santorum / Tancredo

We can dream. :evilgrin:

[Scurrilous]

36. KMGH aired Tancredo falsehood that Miami is the "murder capital of the world"

Summary: During a November 28 broadcast, KMGH 7News aired Republican U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo's false assertion that Miami is the "murder capital of the world." In fact, several cities with comparable populations have higher murder rates, according to FBI statistics.

<snip>

"During an interview with U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) about his controversial comments equating Miami to a "Third World country," the November 28 broadcast of KMGH's 7News Now at 4 p.m. aired Tancredo's false claim that Miami is the "murder capital of the world." In fact, according to the most recent figures from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), a number of U.S. cities with populations of at least 250,000 have significantly higher murder rates than Miami. Tancredo also claimed during the broadcast that his comments "ha nothing to do with race." However, Tancredo spokesman Carlos Espinosa told The Denver Post that the congressman's statements about Miami being a "Third World country" were in reference to Miami's Haitian-American population, which is predominantly black."

http://colorado.mediamatters.org/items/200611300001

[EFerrari]

37. Now, how did all those Haitians wind up in Miami?

:sarcasm:

I bet Tancredo calls Carlos "Charlie".