McCain Flip-Flops, Supports Immediate Reversal of Roe v. Wade

[kpete]

McCain Flip-Flops, Supports Immediate Reversal of Roe v. Wade

In 1999, the “moderate” version of John McCain said that overturning Roe v. Wade would be dangerous for women and he would not support it, even in “the long term.” Here’s McCain in the San Francisco Chronicle:

I’d love to see a point where it is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to undergo illegal and dangerous operations.

This morning on ABC, McCain — now aggressively courting the likes of Jerry Falwell — expressed his unequivocal support for overturning Roe v. Wade.

VIDEO:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/19/mccain-abortion/

[MADem]

1. What a craven whore. The commercials write themselves, though!

What is he thinking? He's not gonna win. He's too old, he has a terrible temper, his wife has had a stroke and isn't up to speed, that rattling sound we hear is skeletons in his closet, and he has a cancer that tends to recur.

Fuhgeddaboutit, Johnny...the best you'll do is SECDEF...and that's if no one else qualified wants the job.

[Cha]

51. That's what I'm talkin' about!

And when he doesn't win..he can explain to the voters in Arizona why he flip flpped on RoevsWade. And maybe someone will come along like a Tester or a Webb in AZ and oust his "cravenwhore" ass.

[Seabiscuit]

97. THIS is McCain's idea of how to run for President?

His flower bloomed already dead.

[babylonsister]

2. What happened to him? He is a whore and no longer exhibits

the slightest bit of intergrity or independent thinking. He'll say what he thinks his 'base' wants to hear? I've had it with him.:grr:

[Pab Sungenis]

5. The "integrity" and "straight talk" arguments are what would have won him

independent and even some Democratic support. Six months of "flip flop" and "both sides of a big mouth" ads, showing how he's been pandering to the frothing right will whittle away at his crossover appeal, and reduce the threat of him.

[babylonsister]

7. Yes, I used to have a lot of respect for him; no more, and not

for the past few years. He's pretty much dug his own grave imo. But better to see it now than to be deceived later.

[tridim]

13. I believe that's precisely the definition of the word "Tool" n/t

[Beelzebud]

16. Nothing happened to him. He's always been this way.

Just because the same mainstream press that helped lie us into Iraq, calls him a "maverick" at every opportunity doesn't make it so.

Just because the man paints "straight talk express" on the side of his bus, doesn't make it so...

[benny05]

44. He always was what you just described

As they say in the Plains states, he goes whichever way the wind blows. :hide:

[OwnedByFerrets]

67. Unfortunately, the media still call him a moderate and

uniter. They will pander to him with glee.

[RaleighNCDUer]

98. Nothing happened to him.

He has been like this since day one.

It's just that when compared to the Shrub, it LOOKED like integrity.

[Politicub]

99. Nothing happened to him

He's always been like this - a political opportunist. He'll say anything to get elected.

But, the good news is that he's transparent enough for anyone to see through him. Still, he does cause my blood to boil. What an asshole.

[Waya]

3. Gotta rally.......

......the rabid Ultra Right Winger Base...for his run in '08. Sick bastard!

[Cha]

53. mccain has to one up rudy on

that..thinking the rabidwingers vote in the primaries.

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. Slimy BASTARD! I just LOVE it when MEN try to dictate what women do with THEIR bodies,

THEIR uterus's.:grr: FUCK YOU, McCAIN!

"IF MEN BECAME PREGNANT, ABORTION WOULD BE A SACRAMENT"

[NOLADEM]

6. Pandering whore.

This is the same whore who was tortured in Vietnam and then came home and supported legislation allowing our troops to behave in the same manner as his captors, and almost certainly insured our troops would undergo similar treatment in the future at the hands of their captors.

He wants to live @ 1600 Penn SO FUCKING BAD he has sold his soul.

What a piece of shit.

[chimpymustgo]

8. Kicked & recommended. Especially for his lovers in the librul media.

They still fawn over this phony, pandering hipocrite.

[smb]

29. All right, Johnny...

...no more nice relaxing games of solitaire for you!

[Irishonly]

65. You Are So Right

[Imalittleteapot]

9. I gave money to McCain

when he was running in the primaries against GWB. Knowing how the Rove machine got Bush into power in Texas, as Governor, I felt compelled to help anyone who would run against Dubya. McCain's courtship with the religious zealots disgusts me. To think that I once respected him enough to contribute to his campaign is unbelievable.

He will never be President because he's been spending the last few years gathering unacceptable baggage. All the Dems have to do is to run that sweaty photo of McCain hugging Bush.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

55. I keep that pic in my sig line. It says it all, doesn't it? n/t

MKJ

[Cass]

10. This does not surprise me in the least. Its been uncomfortable watching him transform himself in the

last 6 years. Too bad some of the braindead will lap up his new persona.

[brook]

11. I once had respect for McCain.

One had to honor his military service and his captivity. Not anymore. He's squandered anything he ever had as 'moral' capital.

[pdxmom]

12. When you pander that hard to one certain group, it's bound to come

back and bite you in the ass. Let him keep talking.

[immoderate]

87. Yes. I hope he gets the nomination.

He should be easy to pick off.

--IMM

[Stinky The Clown]

14. The Stinky Talk Express to the (former) Straight Talk Express:

Go fuck yourself, John. You've worn thin your welcome and your credibility is long past gone.

[ms liberty]

15. He's flopping like a fish on a beach...

Let middle America hear him saying that Americans wouldn't pick lettuce for $50 an hour; let America hear him flip-flopping on women's rights; let America hear him voting against torture before he voted for it. He'll say anything to gain support from anyone he thinks might help him get into the WH.

Put a fork in him, he's done.

[Yukari Yakumo]

18. Agreed, I think he waffled too many times

After the Chimp's disasterous regime, integrity is gonna be a huge issue in the next election. McCain has dug his own grave, any amateur campaign manager can easily pound away at him.

[ms liberty]

20. Welcome to DU! n/t

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

17. Gotta think in terms of those primaries! LOL @ McCain.

[dogday]

19. And to think I once admired this man

and now all I feel is pity for his ass licking personality.....

[progressoid]

21. Good, keep shooting yourself in the foot John. It'll make it easier for us in '08

[madmusic]

22. He flip-flopped on torture too.

So what's new?

[Rex]

23. McCain has to be the ultimate suck up man.

Is there nothing this man holds sacred? Anything? I mean, we all know how he made a deal with the devil. Joe got a kiss and John got a big hug! Aw.

"Give daddy a kiss."

[Bluebear]

24. PHOTO: You can see who is running McCain.

[FUGW]

34. If you don't come to my side McCain I'll eat right here and now

[shayes51]

39. John and Jabba the Hutt!

[Cha]

54. look on mccain's face says he longs

to be a member of foulwell's greedy ol' bastard club.

[OneBlueSky]

25. well . . . guess we won't have to worry about him winning the presidency . . .

not that there was much of a chance before this, mind you . . . but this pretty much clinches it, don'tcha think? . . .

[Disturbed]

26. The RW Corp Media keeps pushing McLame as the

"Front Runner". When the Reagon Dems and Indies finally figure out what freakin' Hypocrite he is, his chances will drop to 15% at best. The RW and Fundies have already figured out that he is a pandering old fool.

[FatDave]

68. Is that the same RW corp media...

...that keeps pushing Hilary as the dem nominee? They've got it all figured out without the voters, huh?

[ruggerson]

27. So he was for abortion before he was against it?

Let's make the meme as simple as we can. :)

[blondeatlast]

93. Actually, running in AZ, he was against, then got to DC and supported RvW,

now he has to appeal to the money tools (aka the RRR) so now he's against it.

Once he's raised enough money, watch for yet another, well--you know.

[kay1864]

108. So he was against abortion before he was for abortion before he was against it...

NOW I've got it straight :+

[Kutjara]

28. Wow! Now that's what I call moral fiber.

Whatever gets you the votes, eh John? Just keep sucking the fundy teat, and you'll be every bit as popular as Shrubby.

[Horse with no Name]

30. Wonderful.

I was worried some "mythical moderates" would think he was good for this country.
This should effectively prove how wing-nut he is.
Great Job JOHN!
I thank you from the bottom of my heart because I was terrified my mother was going to vote for you. Now I know her vote is safe with someone else!

[bluedogyellowdog]

31. Getting ready to throw his hat into the ring for '08, I see

What a shameless panderer.

[LibDemAlways]

32. McCain is digging his own political grave. By pandering to

the extreme right, he'll lose a lot of support he needs in the middle. Good.

[LouKYDem]

104. Here's what I fear though...

he won't lose support in the middle because the media is going to continue to "inform" us that he is so moderate... people don't care about what politicians really believe, just what the media wants to tell them.

[LibDemAlways]

107. Hoping if McCain is the nominee, his opponent will

take every opportunity to point out his many flip-flops and will make sure the famous picture of him hugging the chimp and the one of the two of them sharing birthday cake while people were drowning in New Ortleans are widely seen. The Dems have plenty of ammunition to use against McCain. They just need to be smart about it and not let the media get away with portraying him too positively.

[Jawja]

33. He was against it before

he was for it. ;-)

[iamahaingttta]

35. The Keating Five

McCain has always been slimy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_5

[zulchzulu]

36. What a maverick that Johnny Boy is...

:sarcasm:

[Dukkha]

37. Good! His 2008 defeat is assured now!

since pandering to the religious right has worked SO well for Bush' approval ratings
:eyes:

[still_one]

43. Only if the women VOTE

The reason we won this last election was because of the young people and the women vote, at least that is what the demographic breakdown looks like

I hope they realize that IT IS THEIR BODIES

As far as other issues, he is a hawk on the war in Iraq, and now thanks to rangel, it will probably play right into his hands

BUT for most DEMOCRATS, DO NOT BACK DOWN ON THE ISSUES, whether they be a woman's right to choose, or the Iraq war, you do, and you deserve to lose in 2008

[The Wizard]

38. He put a nail in

his own coffin when he did Rove's bidding a couple of weeks ago when he attacked his "friend" John Kerry. He knew as well as the rest of the non Kool Aid drinkers what Kerry's intent was and he attacked anyway. Fuck him.
The Manchurian Candidate indeed.

[stanwyck]

40. That was unforgiveable for a veteran

and you're absolutely correct. He knew, as did Tony Snow - with his puffed up false outrage, what Kerry was stumblingly trying to say. McCain sunk to the depths along with his Bush team handlers on that one. He could have shown some class.
The mask is off. We're seeing the true ugly McCain underneath.
(Also, his cringing kowtowing to the the same people who ran that nasty campaign against him when he opposed Dubya for the nomination back in '2000 makes me doubt his fortitude. He doesn't have to hate or publicly denounce them (although it would be understandable if he did). But he doesn't have to hire that same team for his campaign, either. He knows they're despicable. And now they're his guys. Or, rather, he's their guy. What a sellout. He was a courageous officer during the war. He must have left his soul back in Vietnam.

[irislake]

41. Eeeeew

No integrity. I feel embarrassed for him.

[Quantess]

42. Cool!

That means he's going to lose popularity.

[Renew Deal]

45. This is great news.

Strips any image of moderation from the whore.

[Morgana LaFey]

46. What courge, bravery, character and integrity.

I sure hope the whole country will be able to see thru this despicable charade of a human being.

[HappyWeasel]

47. Well, at least we know already how to attack him.

The Iraq War was one thing. The constitution is another. This suckas goin down!! I just can't wait for him to flip-flop on stem-cells.

John McCain. He only tells you what you want to hear.

[HockeyMom]

48. They didn't learn their lesson from South Dakota?

The PEOPLE voted NO to banning just about all abortions. What don't they understand about this? Bush and his religious right cronies may be pushing hard to overturn Roe, but when it comes right down to a vote by the people they say NO. South Dakota is hardly a blue, liberal state. If it comes right down to it, how many states would outright ban abortions across the board if Roe was overturned? Very, very few, if ANY.

As much as I detest Guiliani, he has not backed down on this for political gains. I will give him credit for that.

This is a LOSING BATTLE among the general public, and it is about time these politicians pandering to a SMALL MINORITY acknowledged it.

[HappyWeasel]

50. IF roe was overturned...which is unlikely unless the GOP totally sweeps next election...

...especially since they hit their high-water mark (it took about 30 years, but here it is)

But if ROE was overturned...

Im guessing that abortion would be at least as legal as it is now in New England, the Mid Atlantic and the Pacific coast. The northern Midwest and Southwest would have substantial restrictions on abortion, but would allow anyone who needed one to get one. In places like Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Montana, Pennsylvania and Wyoming (States that are bellwhethers on abortion) they would basicaly have a medical panel system where abortion's legality would be decided on a case-by-case basis. In the Upper South and Great Plains, abortion would probably be illegal with some exceptions. (if the woman is not legally responsible for the pregnancy or for her immediate self-defense). Then Utah,Tennessee,Georgia,Alabama,Georgia,Mississippi,Lousianna and Arkansas would basically have a total ban on all abortions (immediate self-defense of mother doesn't count and some of these states might go further than that).

[Cha]

56. To me it says mccain wants

the primary vote but then what if he's the nominee and is in the general against the Dem and is on record for wanting to overturn RoevWade?

Will mccain the flouder flip flop again?

[mnhtnbb]

49. Does this mean if you've been tortured you'll say anything...

to get what you want/need?

[HappyWeasel]

52. Being tortured is not an excuse to being an asshole.

[SydneyBristow]

57. star wars analogy

its kinda like darth vader...yah know he has some good inside of him, but kkkarl and the others have morphed him into a monster. "He's more machine now than man; twisted and evil." -Obi Wan Kenobi

"huggie mclame: The Emperor has been expecting you.
Americans: I know, sir.
huggie mclame: So, you have accepted the truth?
Americans: I have accepted that you were once John McCain, my Senator.
huggie mclame: That name no longer has any meaning for me! "
hahahaha

[connecticut yankee]

58. S.O.B.!

[Sapphocrat]

59. He just realized...

...that he's going to need a lot more future draftees.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

63. Nice.... sharp and witty response!

I envy you your rapier comedic talent! MKJ

:applause:

[Sapphocrat]

82. You flatter me, BHP.

Not that you should stop or anything. ;)

Thank you. :)

[lumpy]

60. I hope he campaigns using this issue.

He would lose the majority of the female vote.

[bleedingheart]

61. A Ban on Abortion would be as Successful as Prohibition was...

and everyone knows that.

[stlsaxman]

62. Never thought i'd say this about anyone, but-

McCain is a mother fucking two-faced FUCK.

Fuck him.

[illinoisprogressive]

64. The Selling of McCain's Soul

Mccain reminds me more and more of the Devil and Daniel Webster.

[niceypoo]

66. Its time for a "Flip Flop" campaign against McPublican if he is nominee...

[IWantAChange]

69. DNC just needs to keep building the files on the Mayor and Flippy McCain

to be able to run the 'necessary' ads when the time comes. The stakes are so enormous that all of us here at DU have to work on increasing our numbers to at least 150k by January 2008 so we can effectively mount email and phone campaigns.

[TheCowsCameHome]

70. John also reversed his chances of winning, if he ever had any.

[FatDave]

71. A lot of people say McCain leans whatever way the wind blows, but...

I disagree a bit. I think he tries to lean whichever way the wind blows, but misreads it every time.

This is the guy who started sucking up to Bush pretty much right when he was entering a death-spiral. Now, when the vast majority of Americans believe (rightly so) that the republican party has moved too far to the right, what does he do? Moves farther to the right.

Mr. McCain: you, sir, are an idiot.

[Laurab]

74. I was thinking the same thing

he surely does misread it. I was sitting here wondering "what was he THINKING?", and you pretty much nailed it.

I'm glad, because he's throwing away his chance to be a contender, if he ever had one. That's the way to respond to the midterms, Johnny boy! The people really want more of the same, keep up the good work!

[blondeatlast]

94. Spot on, my friend. His career as my Senator is testament to that.

He's no maverick; he really hasn't got any personal platform.

He's pandering to the RRR now to build up cash--but he'll stab them in the back just as surely as he has us Arizonans for 19 years. I'd personally love to see him run for '08 so that he can be defeated and we can get nearly anybody else in that seat.

I'd prefer a Goldwater type conservative over a flip-flopper with bad timing any day.

[Irishonly]

72. It's too bad

someone doesn't the change "the" google to show McCain to show up with waffle, flip flop. idiot, sell your values..... What is with the "I am a Federalist"? A couple of neocons I know started that same song and dance and finally shut up when they were told that there were more Federalist Papers than #12. How that wubfambitz can look at himself in the mirror is beyond me. For that matter, he has unmitigated gall to even look at any of our people in the service.

[Danger Mouse]

73. There is no whore...

greater than the Lord of all Whores, John McCain.
What a sleaze, there's just no low that's too low for this assclown, is there?

[ThomCat]

75. Nobody should be surprised.

He's been willing to change his positions repeatedly to pander towards higher power. He'll sacrifice anyone and anything to get to the white house. Hasn't that been obvious for quite a few years now?
x(

[Imagevision]

76. McCain, like Bush will say anything to become topgun...!

[Hawaii Hiker]

77. I guess McCain

will next say Rick Santorum would be his choice for VP, LOL....I use to think McCain was a voice of reason, but, at the end of the day, he's just another power hungry rabid right-wing lunatic...F-him...

Don't forget, another speical commment on Countdown w/Keith Olbermann Mon. 11/20/06..

[Mr_Spock]

78. McCain is a fucking ASS HOLE!!

I am starting to hate this jackass. He has no chance of winning so why doesn't he just STFU.

[Deb]

79. Ugh, once again a Repub is hanging onto our skirts

Don't you just hate it when grown men do that?

[Pachamama]

80. It's so over for him and he hasn't even officially thrown his hat in the ring...

:hi: bye bye John....you are just another political whore with zero integrity....and to think that there was a time where I thought you had integrity and honor....Boy, you sure fooled a lot of people!

[iamthebandfanman]

81. believe me im in noway defending the guy

even tho way back in the day i thought he mite be an alirght dude...
but
he is saying that he wants the states to decide... and that makes sense...cause hes a republican. republicans, regardless of how conservative they are, believe in states rights like that.

but, at the same time, hes kinda stating it as his personal opinion that abortions should be illegal, and that isnt okay.

[truebrit71]

83. Whore, thy name is McCain....

...Wow, just WOW....the depths some will go in the desperate search for power...

Not all that surprising in the long run I suppose, after his capitulation to AWOL after the evil shit AWOL and his demons had said about McCain and his family....and then the hug...and the "I support the 'president'" bullshit...Then he says that Abu Ghraib and the MCA are not about allowing torture...What a pathetic fucking sell-out this puke is....How in the world this man sleeps at night I will never know...I couldn't look in the mirror if I were him...but then again, if someone had said the things about my family that had been said against his, the fucking chickenshit that had authored them would need canes to walk and a straw to eat his meals through and not a hug and a sweet kiss on the puckered sphincter...but then maybe that's just me....

McCain = Whore

[badgerpup]

84. Seriously...is McCain displaying onset of senile dementia?

:wtf:
This kind of flip-flopping ain't just for politicians...and he's no spring chicken.

[stonecoldsober]

86. No, he's just a turkey-necked bastard!

[stonecoldsober]

85. Oh! He's dogmeat now!!!!

:rofl: :popcorn:

[LetsGoMurphys]

88. Its ok

he can just change when he gets the nomination.

[McCamy Taylor]

89. He lost his chance when he turned on Kerry for W. He is no Goldwater.

[ComerPerro]

90. This is the kind of people that DUers want to reach out to

because they have somehow convinced themselves that we can court these people's vote without compromising our social values or economic values...

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

91. That was a brief campaign...

The women's vote just went toward the Democratic candidate in droves (whoever it might be), as did the Independents. Here's hoping that Republicans never fogire out that a radical anti-abortion position only appeals to their hardcore base.

[Swamp Rat]

92. McCain just lost his presidential bid.... it is over for him.

Oh, he may win the GOP nomination and win the support of the fundie inbreds, but he just shot himself in the foot. Moderate republican women will not vote for him in 2008.

[blondeatlast]

95. "EXPLORE MCCAIN."

I kid you not; that's how he titled the website.
Poor guy, he's GOTTA pander to the RRR tools. You'll see why when you go to the exploratory committee website. http://www.exploremccain.com/

If you haven't had your caffeine yet, you may not want to click through. The home page is a bit disturbing.

[rodeodance]

96. not good-not good at all.

[Pacifist Patriot]

100. Does this really surprise anyone?

How many of us have been cautioning folks about McCain for the past 8 years? Come on, raise your hands. I know I'm not the only one who has recognized this zebra's stripes from the beginning. The only thing that surprises me is that his political whoring is even newsworthy anymore.

[BonnieJW]

101. Here is proof

that McCain uses women to promote himself. He cares nothing for their health or well-being.

[noonwitch]

102. I never thought McCain was Pro-choice, anyways

Right to Life has always ranked him pretty highly.

[wisteria]

103. He is lying. This is red meat for the Kooky base. They would never

reverse such a popular fund raising issue.

[Hawaii Hiker]

105. McCain also favors far-right justices

as he was one of those who voted for the insane Robert Bork back in 1987, see link below...

Make no mistake, John McCain might not be as vocal & outspoken as a Rick Santorum, etc. but McCain is definitely a far-right crackpot...

It will be intersting to see whether it's McCain or Rudy Guilani, I doubt the other Republican candiates stand a chance...

http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:HbDRR68mKh8J:www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/348_1987.pdf+senators+who+voted+for+Robert+Bork&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

[librechik]

106. What happened? Is he pregnant?

Saint McCain needs to prove his purity to the White er the Right folks, I guess.

What a lying whore.

[jpwhite]

109. not a moderate, not a good public speaker either

This makes me sick. For the longest time the media has portrayed this guy as a moderate because he stood up to the President on a few issues, and now he has to appeal to his "base". Why not grow a backbone and stick to what you believe in. Personally I believe in abortion and it should be "safe, legal, and rare". I haven't changed a bit on that one.

If I were the GOP I wouldn't put this guy out there in 2008 as a candidate. He is not that good of a public speaker. The president should be able to carry himself or herself with class, and be able to speak with elequence. But, it's not up to me and their mistake could be an advantage for us.

I respect what McCain did in Vietnam, but this is just plain wrong.

James
[email protected]

[MzNov]

110. Keep on talkin' McCain. All we have to do is sit back and

watch the destruction. You are a f***g idiot if there ever was one. Didn't you learn one thing from the '06 election landslide??

[Anakin Skywalker]

111. McCain, Just Another A$$-Kisser. Go to Hell, Johnny Mac.

[childslibrarian]

112. Bush admin must have promised him something good

It is a sad thing.