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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:30 PM Original message |
Thoughts on Impeachment |
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stonecoldsober (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good post! |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Yes, that's a critical point - The Republican Congress ignored their |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
112. Sword of Damocles |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
137. Offenses already proven, and majority already wants impeachment . . . |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. If we don't impeach... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
81. One thing that made a big impression on me was Clinton's decis ion |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
138. You've probably seen it, but " Hey, Democrats, Truth Matters!" |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. I'm reading Parry's book, "Secrecy and Privilege" |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:12 PM Response to Reply #138 |
152. Good choice! |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #152 |
156. Thanks back at you -- for post #95. . . |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
3. You're right that there is little difference |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Thank you Patsy -- Timing and semantics |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
139. "Off the table" was not just craven and immoral, it was completely unnecessary |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #139 |
158. I wasn't arguing for or against Nancy's actions. |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #158 |
166. We know all the necessary facts. We have known them for years. . . |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. Are you aware that after the vote is taken in the House |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. One charge is enough. We have at least three for which we know . . . |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. Practicality. Political psychology. I think those who push to |
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stonecoldsober (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Nixon was not impeached - he resigned. |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. ...because he was about to be impeached AND convicted and |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. "Convicted" is the important part of the entire process and the reason Nixon resigned. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
85. I'm not sure what your point is by saying that |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
143. Failure to accuse = Exoneration = "Accessory After the Fact" War Criminal |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
142. What do you base your assumption that the impeachment of Bush. . . |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I have a question |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I believe the people who counted in working for the impeachment |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
69. If you really understand what was behind the impeachment of Nixon... |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
75. Did you read and fully understand my question? |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. My opinion on that |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
146. Defense of the Constitution by removing the threat was achieved. . . |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
144. Actually, that is easily turned. . . |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
82. Yes, we need to consider all of those things |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
141. For crimes . . |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #141 |
153. Your right about taking the time for the vote. But, there is only two |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. There is not set sequence of events. . . |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
5. Couldn't agree with you more! |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
148. Powerful case already made. No investigation required. |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
10. Agree |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. I agree that this is a fight for our lives |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
11. why investigations should not be tied to impeachment |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. Thank you onenote -- I see your point and I tend to agree with it |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
12. Who Said Not To Investigate? But Impeachment Detracts From That |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
83. I don't see why impeachment can't be the culmination of many of |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:22 AM Response to Reply #83 |
99. We have a clear and simple case. "Investigations" undermine that case. . . |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
98. "Throwing them out" = "Rescue the Constitution" |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:04 AM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Very Much In Agreement About The Hague |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:31 AM Response to Reply #104 |
113. Failure to "push for it" = exoneration |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. I think you make some very good points here |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #114 |
125. I just ordered Nichols book "The Genius of Impeachment: The Founders' Cure for Royalism" |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. I'll have to get that book -- thank you |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:13 AM Response to Reply #113 |
116. Political Expdiency Trumps All... |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #116 |
131. Articles were voted out of committee -- Nixon resigned. Removal is the goal. . |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #116 |
136. And, if you are interested. . . |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
13. I'm still going to take the "investigate first" attitude |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
84. "Nobody is suggesting that we should look the other way and thus |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
17. Bookmarked. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
18. The confusion arises on the statement "impeachment is off the table". |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
19. Kick for the Constitutional imperative of impeachment. - n/t |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
20. I reject the premise that the choices are either pro-impeachment or anti-impeachment. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:32 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. There was no qualifier preceeding or subseeding |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
51. I agree that impeachment doesn't need to be pursued "right out of the box" |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Well, Pelosi said impeachment is off the table. Conyers agrees. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Skinner did not say that impeachment is not a good idea |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I am against quick impeachment, many here are not |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:11 AM Response to Reply #63 |
90. Ok, but |
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Independent_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
68. I know you keep saying... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. I certainly agree with your main premise |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
22. How do we work with the President to bring home troops once we've |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. This pResident has no intention of bringing the troops home |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. We HAVE to try. And, we have more leverage if we don't damage |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. He's already flatly stated he's not pulling them out while he's pRez. nt |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. And then he said he'll await the findings of Papa Bush's Iraq group. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Even Poppy's group will recommend staying in Iraq |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. You may be right. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. It was in the Wash Post a couple of days ago |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Interesting. I wonder if this group is more about political cover than |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Thanks you have a great weekend too! |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. When put that way, I believe that I would also go for position # 2 |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
95. Justice doesn't just "happen" |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:06 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. I didn't assume that the gods would intervene. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
23. I strongly recommend |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Love that idea. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. It has great potential |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I agree. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Once formal investigations |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Indeed. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. I haven't read that book |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Even Bush and Cheney have the right to a "trial." |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
86. Yes, I agree with all that |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Sure. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Right, I agree with all of that |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. As everyone who |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. "It would be impossible to have impeachment without investigations." |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
151. Respectfully disagree. . . |
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Fiendish Thingy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:27 AM Response to Reply #23 |
102. Yup- Cheney's got to go first... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:07 AM Response to Reply #102 |
115. Since the Bush and Cheney crimes are so closely related, I don't see why |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
150. Impeaching only Cheney is a defacto exoneration of Bush. . . |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
36. How does Bushy's ability to pardon enter into this picture? If he is impeached |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:03 AM Response to Reply #36 |
87. Thank you -- I'm sorry I can't answer your question |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:29 AM Response to Reply #87 |
100. President's power to pardon is absolute -- while he's in office. |
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followthemoney (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
38. So the choice is either the politics of fear or... Law and Order. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. "DEMOCRATS have cautiously led us in the worship of Republican values." |
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followthemoney (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. The party's rejection of censure supported by Feingold. The blind support for |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. How many Democrats = "The Party?" |
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followthemoney (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Have a nice dream! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
74. Have a nice nightmare! |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
73. Excellent points... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:08 AM Response to Reply #38 |
88. I agree with most of what you say here, except |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
46. YES! The discussions have mostly been about political expediency. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 05:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Yes, we must first and foremost concern ourselves with the health of our country |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Now, it's important to take the "conversation" beyond DU! |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. It's very good to hear that you're spreading his work around |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I figured a long time ago that we have to be our own media. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Thanks -- I agree that the corporate media is a great part of the problem |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
70. Well said, bobbolink. I heartily concur |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
56. I hate to say it, but the Democrats have to play the media game. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Well, that's probably one of the most lucid explanations I've heard on this subject |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
60. Impeachment. Our civic responsibility and our constitutional right. |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
65. "The issue is simply whether or not a president and vice president have the right to ignore our ... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. Thank you ul -- Yes, they hold international and domestic law in equal contempt |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
67. I feel that the bottom line is the War in Iraq... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. Yes, I believe that is correct -- which would be an added benefit of |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
71. Thank you. Great discussion thread. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #71 |
117. Thank you katinmn - Yes, Bush certainly is a torturing war criminal |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
72. I'm starting to think censure would hurt Bush more than impeachment. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #72 |
119. But impeachment and conviction is a much more powerful rebuke than censure |
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infinity818425 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
79. Re: Thoughts on Impeachment |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:19 AM Response to Reply #79 |
91. Very important insights |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #91 |
132. Lots of great points puebloknot |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:47 AM Response to Reply #132 |
164. Just saw this Monday 1:45 |
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IWantAChange (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:24 PM Response to Reply #91 |
161. Investigations must proceed or America will have lost its 'balance' as |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:46 AM Response to Reply #79 |
109. infinity818425 .... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #79 |
120. Welcome to DU infinity |
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rich4468 (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
89. Let's remember that Libby's trial starts in January... |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. ...impeachment will quietly shuffle into oblivion... |
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rich4468 (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:34 AM Response to Reply #93 |
107. I agree... |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #89 |
110. didn't some other asshole take the rap for Libby-Cheney? |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:33 AM Response to Reply #89 |
121. Consider Conyers' report, "The Constitution in Crisis" |
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rich4468 (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #121 |
160. Thanks... |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
92. proceed with Caution |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #92 |
122. "It is almost certain that so much malfesence will be uncovered |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:32 PM Response to Reply #92 |
154. Defining ourselves as the party of "We the People" and . . |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
94. Irreconcilable differences |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #94 |
111. pat_k : |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
97. IMPEACH BUSH! |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:09 AM Response to Reply #97 |
101. Ditto! |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #97 |
135. Simple and to the point! |
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CarbonDate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
103. Something the pro-impeachment crowd never address: |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #103 |
118. "Pro-impeachment" people do address this -- I just did in this post. . . |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #103 |
124. Interesting and important points - I agree with the need for patience |
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brindis_desala (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #103 |
149. Bingo! We have a winner! |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:24 AM Response to Original message |
105. Impeachment ought to be about the Constitution, but it isn't |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #105 |
123. The public is already there. . . |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:30 PM Response to Reply #123 |
162. The general public was INFORMED about Nixon |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:56 AM Response to Reply #162 |
167. Why? Draft the articles, make the case. We have ALL the necessary facts. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #167 |
178. By "we" you mean the activists who use those internets pipes |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. The Majority that the Newsweek poll found |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #105 |
126. But our Congressional representatives were elected by us |
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Maryland Liberal (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
106. Impeachment = YES, Here's the plan |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #106 |
128. Welcome to DU Maryland liberal |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
108. Well said.... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:53 AM Response to Reply #108 |
129. Thanks -- sounds like a very worth while book |
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Homer Wells (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
130. I think, if Bush goes ahead with |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:12 PM Response to Reply #130 |
133. God forbid that should happen |
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westerebus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #133 |
147. What have they got to lose? |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
134. Why Does Will Pitt and Skinner Hate America? |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
145. great thread! |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #145 |
159. Very good point -- We're still saddled with the most irresponsible |
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Thomas_Paine1776 (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
157. No duh, the people know its "necessary," it just takes 67 votes to remove them. |
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vkobaya (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:38 AM Response to Original message |
163. Opposition to Impeachment |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:17 AM Response to Reply #163 |
165. There is also another possibility |
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Independent_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
168. Time for Change, if you're interested... |
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westerebus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. AMEN! |
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Independent_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. Oh yes, it will happen. It has to happen. |
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Independent_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:48 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. BTW... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #168 |
174. Your post has restored my faith... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #168 |
175. Great scenario |
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USA_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
176. This Is What Dems Should Be Pursuing... |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
177. impeachment is called for and necessary. |
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