Major Miscount of Vote in 2006 Election: Skewed Toward Republicans by 4 percent, 3 million votes

[helderheid]

x-post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x459190

WOW!!!!

:wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow:

[texpatriot2004]

1. They did not factor in their unpopularity into the equation when

they tried to steal it this time.

[helderheid]

2. I'm sending a printout of the report along with a video tape of

Hacking Democracy to Salt Lake County Mayor Peter Corroon (who happens to be Howard Dean's 1st cousin)

[Beetwasher]

3. Yup, I DO Think The TRIED To Steal It

But we overwhelmed them. This time. It's easier to steal a Presidential election where it's one national race, but with hundreds of smaller more local races it's harder and we overwhelmed the, but this is still a big, big problem.

They tried their best to steal it this time but couldn't overcome the wave.

[helderheid]

4. we need to get it straight before 2008

[EFerrari]

5. I knew these guys would try. When did they ever resist

an opportunity to steal anything?

[helderheid]

6. exactly. We had a LANDSLIDE, baby.

[Beetwasher]

7. You Know What? It Was STILL A Landslide!

Even WITH the cheating. That in itself is encouraging, that we can overcome even THAT!!

But of course we still need to something about this.

[helderheid]

9. I totally agree!! Though it is a HELL of a lot easier to steal a presidential election - I love ...

HR 6200

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.6200:

Paper Ballot Act of 2006 (Introduced in House)

HR 6200 IH

109th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 6200

To amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to require States to conduct Presidential elections using paper ballots and to count those ballots by hand, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

September 27, 2006

Mr. KUCINICH (for himself, Ms. CORRINE BROWN of Florida, Mr. CLAY, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. FILNER, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. GUTIERREZ, Mr. HASTINGS of Florida, Mr. HINCHEY, Mr. JACKSON of Illinois, Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas, Ms. EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON of Texas, Ms. KAPTUR, Ms. LEE, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Ms. MCKINNEY, Mrs. MALONEY, Ms. SOLIS, Ms. WATERS, and Ms. WOOLSEY) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on House Administration, and in addition to the Committee on Government Reform, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to require States to conduct Presidential elections using paper ballots and to count those ballots by hand, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Paper Ballot Act of 2006'.

SEC. 2. REQUIRING USE OF HAND-COUNTED PAPER BALLOTS IN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS.

Section 301(a) of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 (42 U.S.C. 15481(a)) is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:

`(7) SPECIAL RULES FOR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS- Notwithstanding any other provision of this subsection, in the case of a regularly scheduled general election for the electors of President and Vice President (beginning with the election in November 2008), the following rules shall apply:

`(A) The State shall conduct the election using only paper ballots.

`(B) The State shall ensure that the number of ballots cast at a precinct or equivalent location which are placed inside a single box or similar container does not exceed 500.

`(C) The ballots cast at a precinct or equivalent location shall be counted by hand by election officials at the precinct, and a representative of each political party with a candidate on the ballot, as well as any interested member of the public, may observe the officials as they count the ballots. The previous sentence shall not apply with respect to provisional ballots cast under section 302(a).'.

SEC. 3. MOVING OBSERVATION OF WASHINGTON'S BIRTHDAY TO ELECTION DAY DURING PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEARS.

Section 6103(a) of title 5, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by inserting `the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November in 2008 and every fourth year thereafter, and' after `Washington's Birthday,'; and

(2) by inserting `in any other year' after `February'.

[EFerrari]

11. No kidding!

:wow:

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

8. Ya, I can make shit up, too.

Teh Democrates actually one by TWENTY BAJILLION votes!!11!11

[helderheid]

10. oh brother...

:eyes:

Lemme take a WILD GUESS... you didn't check out the link and the data they analyzed, did ya?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

12. I did check it out.

It's just as unconvincing as every other hackneyed statistical analysis of exit polls that supposedly "proves" something about the actual number of votes.

[helderheid]

13. Well then I apologize for assuming you hadn't and will agree to disagree

[tkmorris]

17. So you say, BUT

I notice that you offer exactly nothing by way of refutation of their reasoning. Reasoning by the way, that I found rather convincing. They used logic, you come back with an over dramatic roll of the eyes.

I don't want to discount your opinion, so I'll give you another shot if you want it. Tell me WHY you think you are right, and they are not.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

18. The onus is not on me to prove their claims.

The onus is on them, and their "evidence" is weak and displays a lack of understanding of statistics and polling methodology.

I'll take it seriously when they get some professional statisticians to back up their claims.

[stepnw1f]

14. Of Course You Can, But That Doesn't Make This Info Any Less Credible.

[Coexist]

15. Heres hoping!

[helderheid]

16. It doesn't surprise me! I will be very interested in my Mayor's reaction

[williesgirl]

19. k&r