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colorado thinker Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:07 PM
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The Century of Women
Cindy Sheehan, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer, Claire McCaskille, Oprah Winfrey, Randi Rhodes, Rachel Maddowe, Medea Benjamin. . .

How many more can you add to this list? How many women in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, can we add to this list?

It's been said that this country's society will end up matriarchal, can we accelerate the process? It's time for women to exert their collective energy. Wars solve nothing, greed is destroying the planet, children are dying all over the world.

It's time.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:11 PM
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1. Melinda Gates- although she works closely with her husband.
Valerie Plame- she's standing strong by filing the lawsuit.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:15 PM
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2. Americans: Gwen Ifill, Gloria Steinem;
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:16 PM
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3. Would a matriarchy be more peaceful than a patriarchy?
Isn't it -archy itself that leads to violence?

Remember, "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." I'm all for female equality but that is also why I'm against one gender ruling. (If I had to choose I'd probably vote for the butch lesbians, though.)
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:17 PM
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4. Sibel Edmonds. Valerie Plame. n/t
MKJ
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:31 PM
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17. It would be esp. good to reward the whistle-blowers.
If we want more people to follow in their footsteps.

Instead of being DEMOTED!! like Bunnatine H. Greenhouse

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9118897/
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:18 PM
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5. Maybe when we get back to taking care of the Earth
we will be matriarchal.

In my opinion, there will never be a majority of women in government leadership roles, because there are too many other pulls for women, with being nurturers, and having children.

Most men do not want to forego having a family, neither do women.
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colorado thinker Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:32 PM
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7. Many, many cultures throughout history
have been matriarchal, it didn't preclude childbirth and child rearing then. Also, I think of matriarchy as the province of the wise women, who are typically wise because they have lived through life's trials and joys and are therefore available to direct, counsel and/or govern.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:30 PM
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6. Erm... Ann Coulter?
Katherine Harris? Jean Schmidt? Barbara Bush?

Men don't have a monopoly on being assholes.

(Full disclosure - I am a guy, despite my rather girly handle.)
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colorado thinker Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:36 PM
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8. Your handle shows you are in touch with your feminine side?
Yes, there are women who should NOT govern, just like there are men who should NOT govern, I think we've all been inflicted with enough of that, don't you? I'm talking about matriarchy as a different approach, a different viewpoint. It doesn't mean there aren't men who would be valuable counsel, just that we are moving into a future that might require the feminine, if the species is to survive itself.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:52 PM
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9. It's what my parents used to call me when I was little...
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 06:53 PM by kiki
...and still occassionally do now. :blush:

Yes, warmongering is arguably a more male trait, but female advocates of war and bigotry can be as vile as any man. Many a right-wing scumbag has a wife that comes across like a mixture of Hitler and a Stepford fembot... witness Lynne and Laura, for example.

Most war, greed and corruption are committed by men these days, but one could argue that that's because most politicians and CEOs - the people with the power to do such things - are men. I don't know if there's any proof that women would do things any differently if they were running the show.

Personally I think it's rich people that are to blame for the world's problems, and they come in both genders - but that's a whole different thread... :)
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colorado thinker Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:03 PM
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10. But perhaps women who war
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 07:13 PM by colorado thinker
do so for different reasons? Bodicea (spelling?)?

Edited to respond to your point. Many women, one of my sisters for example, parrot the stand their husband takes, because they've been conditioned to be the "supportive little woman". I'm not sure if I'm judging that behavior either way, only wish they would use their own brains to determine their own opinions. And there are indeed some who are vile fembots, who sincerely believe in bigotry and hatred.

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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:32 PM
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14. It's a question of those who seek power, not their gender
Uniformly, people who seek power over other people, whether in a despotism or a democracy, seek only to govorn for themselves. Women will do it just like men. The "good people" we want to be politicians will continue being good people outside of politics, while the jackasses and jackassettes of the world run for office.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:24 PM
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15. Or to put it another way...
"He (or she) who cheats the most, wins."
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:26 PM
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16. Ah, but...
...hasn't everyone been conditioned, one way or the other? IF you're right-wing, you're either a liar or a sucker who listens to liars...
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:13 PM
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11. I like this; Matrix Society
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 07:17 PM by ismnotwasm
http://www.suppressedhistories.net/matrix/matrix.html

"Matrix cultures are built on the natural fact that women give and sustain life, through their bodies, their love, attention, work, and their arts. Social, economic and cultural organization follows kinship through the mothers. All descendants of a female ancestor or a group of sisters, including sons, brothers, and uncles, belong to the maternal clan.

One outstanding trait of this extended family matrix is social motherhood, shared among the women of the central generation. All sisters children are regarded as sisters and brothers. Aunts may be called Mother by any of their sisters children, even if biologically childless. Maternal cousins are often nursed together and this milk bond is held sacred."
Edit to add this, more to the point;


Women's Peace-making Powers

The Lisu of Yunnan tell a story of how two tribes fought a big war in Nujiang valley over a marriage. At noon during a major battle, a prestigious middle-aged woman of one side climbed a cliff. She took off her long skirt and waved it. She shouted to stop the battle. The two sides stopped fighting immediately and went back to their villages. An old man expanded on this legend to a Chinese researcher, Women had the right to stop war by the custom of that time. The two sides had to stop fighting if a woman of either side waves her skirt and calls for an armistice.

A similar custom exists in Vanatinai, in the far southwestern Pacific. A woman taking off her skirt gives a signal for war or for peace, and this can also be a sign that she is extending protection to a captive enemy. Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) women also had this power of deciding the fate of captives, and North American peoples widely practiced full adoption of chosen captives into their families.

Shawnee and Miami women chiefs could demand an end to blood feuds or wars. These North American peoples, and among the Illinois, had a complete system of female chiefs, parallel to the male chiefs, with authority over war and peace, as well as directing preparations for important feasts and communal planting of crops. The importance of the female chiefs is illustrated by Henry Hays puzzled observation in 1789 that the young Miami chief Richardville is so very bashful that he never speaks in council, his mother who is very clever is obliged to do it for him.
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The Haudenosaunee had a saying, Before the men can go to war, the women must make their moccasins. The Cherokee had a similar tradition. Men could not go off to war without the dried food, moccasins, and other supplies provided by women. (Both these traditions also formally designated offices, such as the Ghigau or Beloved Woman of the Cherokee, with authority in political, diplomatic and military affairs.)
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colorado thinker Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:22 PM
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12. Excellent! My point, exactly
and I especially like the mental picture of thousands of women standing at the gates of the White House in our underwear, waving our skirts. That should get their attention.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:24 PM
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13. LOL
Indeed it would. If war could end that way, I'd be first in line to wave my skirt.
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