Are we forgetting one little detail?

[shadowknows69]

Everything we want to do still needs the Asshole-in Chief's signature. We don't have a super majority. How do we get Bushy to play ball?

[muntrv]

1. Yes, but everything * wants needs our approval.

[mom cat]

19. Except for military fiascos, which is why we need to start dual

impeachment proceedings pronto. I am sure that President Pelosi will gladly sign what we need!

[shadowknows69]

20. I'm with you on that mom cat

it feels like there's going to be very little search for accountibility for this mess, and the wars will go on

[havocmom]

2. He'll dicker more now. James Baker is the Decider.

Cheney is laying low. The chimp will go along a bit easier.

[asjr]

6. Maybe Baker will persuade Cheney

to take a hike and Baker will become VP.

[WinkyDink]

3. Threaten him with more investigations.

[shadowknows69]

4. I'm not trying to take anything away from the win

Just a lot of people reaching for the stars right now when all this is really is baby steps and a roadblock unless we can win over some rethugs too. That may not be too hard as 2008 draws closer.

[seabeyond]

11. no it is not a cakewalk. and it doesnt mean dem gets all we want

or that we pick supreme court appt and the court is safe. it is likely to slow down things from happening and either party accomplishing things

[tavalon]

5. Bushy is going to be too busy talking to lawyers and such

to spend much time being obstructionist.

[NNadir]

7. Investigate him to death.

He will not stand up to scrutiny. He's dirtier than a coal stack. The only reason he got away with it up until now is that no one who had the power of subpoena wanted to discover his transgressions.

My suspicion is that we can get enough on him easily that even the Repukes will have to vote for his impeachment. If you think it can't happen, review the history of the end of the Nixon administration. Yes there were Repukes calling for his impeachment at the end.

[The Magistrate]

8. We Want Him To Refuse To Do What We Want, Sir

What is necessary now is to pass items we want, that will be popular with the people, that the wretch in the Oval Office will be bound to veto. This will give the people an object lesson in who is their friend, and who is their enemy, to assist them in making up their minds two years from now....

[SammyWinstonJack]

12. !

:thumbsup:

[MissB]

15. Exactly. First up: minimum wage hike. Passes easily

and then Bush *will* veto it.

[aquart]

18. Then the Republicans get to decide if they want to override the veto.

And then we have them on record, supporting Bush and abandoning hardworking American people.

And that gets to happen every single time. Every bill we pass for the American people, which BushCo vetoes. Which makes the Republicans obstructionists.

Oh, dear, oh dear.

[valerief]

9. You'll…have…a…Blue Christmas now Georgie

Uh hubba hubba a Blue Christmas now Georgie

(I don't know the lyrics to Blue Christmas so I'll stop here.)

[Mythsaje]

10. Leverage Congress...

We hang investigations over the weakest Repugs in Congress and use what we know to force them to override any vetoes.

Or, better yet, we just publicize the results of the investigations, show the Repugs for the incompetent and corrupt asshats they are, and start a whole round of special elections to put Dems into MORE seats in both houses.

Strategy, my friend. Strategy.

[razors edge]

13. Have Howard Dean

threaten the pubs with a focused campaign against the votes we need, in 08.

Rove is toast and they don't want none of that.

They are a bunch of followers and are running scared, we can now use the coercive influence that has been used against us for too damned long.

[LordLovesAWorkingMan]

21. Won't Dean do that anyway?

Isn't that his job?

[NOLADEM]

14. Give and take. Or he can just sit there for two years...Can't do anything without money

And we control Congress, so we control what goes on in a sense. He will try to legislate with signing statements and executive orders, which I predict will need to be legislated and litigated.

Oversight, the ability to subpoena, the ability to confirm or deny appointments to the judiciary and cabinet are all up to us.

Congress has a lot of power. We are just used to seeing a lapdog rubberstamp for the Chimp. New day.

[Marr]

16. Dems don't need Junior's approval to issue a subpoena.

And that is the key to the whole thing. Imagine a Bush Administration without secrecy.

[DaveT]

17. Nothing Good Happened -- A Horrible Downhill Slide Ended

It's like putting out a forest fire -- an absolute necessity and a noble effort -- but nothing positive in and of itself. We could not even rationally think about making any real progress since September 11, 2001 as Bush held the country hostage to "terror."

Many of "our" winning candidates will oppose many of our issues -- and Bush will veto anything that seriously bothers his real base (not the religious right, but the haves and the have mores.)

Still it is cause for celebration to halt the slide into fascism that Bush and his rubber stamp Congress were engineering. I am one happy DUer today!

Even though I know that the fight for a better country has not even begun.

[VelmaD]

22. We don't need him to play ball

I just want to see the Dems bring legislation to the floor, good legislation like the increase in the minimum wage and repealing the tax cuts and the Patriot Act and expanding stem cell research...make the republicans have recorded votes on controversial issues where they are WAY out of touch with the mainstream and make Bush veto popular legislation.

[kestrel91316]

23. Wrong. He has ABSOLUTELY NO SAY in House or Senate investigations.

Teeheehee.