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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:46 PM
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Texas Gov. Rick Perry: Non-Christians are condemned to spend eternity in hell
Texas governor's religious remarks slammed

SAN ANTONIO, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drawn criticism from rival candidates for saying he agrees non-Christians are condemned to spend eternity in hell.

Perry was among some 60 mostly Republican candidates for Tuesday's midterm election attending a Sunday service at San Antonio's Cornerstone Church, where pastor John Hagee said in his sermon non-Christians were "going straight to hell with a non-stop ticket," The Dallas Morning News reported. Afterward, Perry told reporters there was nothing in the sermon he could disagree with, prompting quick condemnations from opponents.

"He doesn't think very differently from the Taliban, does he?" said independent candidate Kinky Friedman. "Being obsessed with who's going to heaven and who's going to hell is kind of a pathetic waste of time."

Democrat Chris Bell said a state leader should have been more cautious in his remarks. "God is the only one who can make the decision as to who gets into the kingdom of heaven," Bell said.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061106-...
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:47 PM
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1. What a pathetic piece of shit - recommended
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 03:00 AM
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43. Perry will not go to hell. Perry will go to purgatory and have to answer
to Alex Trebek who will give Perry every clue and Perry will have to answer in the form of a question from now to the crack of doom.

Of Course Alex Trebek will give his clues from Heaven.

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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:47 PM
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2. So are Rick Perry, George Bush and his cabal
heading for hell.
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:47 PM
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3. Perry should remember what
Lincoln said. How you should want to be on God's side and not make sure God was on your side.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:48 PM
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4. Perry and his party sure trying hard enough to make life hell
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:49 PM
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5. Vote Bell!
n/t
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:54 PM
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13. I did!
Hope it counted.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:02 PM
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17. Me too!
And it better count!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:12 AM
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49. Absolutely Voted Bell n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:50 PM
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6. There goes the Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist and
atheist vote! :eyes: Perry reminds me of the psycho-in-chief...a few watts short of a bulb.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:50 PM
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7. Here is what Texas Governor Ferguson said. (even more stupid)



"If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, then it is good enough for Texas children."
--Texas Governor Ferguson (on Spanish being taught in Texas public schools.)
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:02 PM
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18. You can't be serious. No one could be THAT stupid.
Oh wait, nevermind

I'll bet he thinks Jesus was white, blue-eyed, German, and drove an Escalade with a W sticker, too
:puke:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:04 PM
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19. you do realize
That Ferguson was governor of Texas in 1917.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:07 PM
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22. Yes, but it's still good. nt
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:12 PM
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23. sigh
I'm not really interested in playing the "all texans are bigots" game today. You have a good one.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:21 PM
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25. ACtually, I think that was about Latin being taught in the public schools
And it was really expressing anti-catholic sentiment.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:22 PM
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26. HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
:rofl:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:50 PM
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8. I'm sure a majority of Texas voters are outraged by these comments
and accordingly, they will split their votes among Perry's 3 different opponents, allowing him to win.
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Big Sky Boy Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:18 PM
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24. Would that it be true
Unfortunately, Texes is deep Bible Belt country. It's just about impossible to win without proclaiming your Christian credentials.

A statement like "All non-Christians are going to hell" is a very safe thing to say.

To his credit, as Dubya's hand-picked successor, Perry is NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer. He probably wasn't even paying attention.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:23 PM
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27. Exactly right
This is just a little red meat for Goodhair's talibornagain base, which is all he needs to be re-elected at this point.
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:42 PM
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31. exactly whats going to happen
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:26 PM
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40. A large number of Texas residents wanted to burn pagans at Fort Hood
I wouldn't give them a whole lot of credit for religious tolerance.
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:49 AM
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42. No, a majority of Texans would be fine with his comments
I'm so glad I gt the fuck out that horrid state. I'm Christian but those people scare me.
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:51 PM
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9. I am so tired of the 'religous right' and their hypocrisy.......
if only they would go the way of Dubyha and his evil cabal and just disappear eventually.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:52 PM
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10. Only evil people believe in Hell.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:54 PM
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11. Tell Rick I have no plan to
live in Texas under his administration. That's fugging hell enough.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:54 PM
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12. Most Christians probably believe that.
I'm not sure why it even made the news. It's no different to me than someone believing that Mother Earth made them, or that they'll be reincarnated when they die. It's not provable, it's in the realm of religion, so why is it offensive to anyone?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:58 PM
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14. no doubt that thought comforts him
lololol

"yer gonna burn in hell"

Amazing what people tell themselves to feel good about their beliefs
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:00 PM
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15. I think Perry should read up on the Bible before making hostile statements like that
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:00 PM
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16. You can't buy this kind of bad publicity, can you?
They just serve it up on a platter.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:06 PM
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20. Heaven for climate. Hell for atmosphere.
I think George Carlin originally said that. Sounds good to me.

Perry has too much pride. He believes all others are going to hell, but Jesus will be throwing roses at Perry's feet when he arrives at the Pearly Gates. Ha!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:48 PM
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34. "Heaven for the climate,
hell for the company." -- Mark Twain
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:57 PM
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38. Thanks.
All these years I've been misquoting. :blush:
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:07 PM
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21. He must've seen our names on the reservation list...
Hey, perry, when we want your religious opinion, we'll ask your hooker.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:27 PM
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28. That's a good one.
What manner of hell could be worse than spending eternity with people like Rick Perry?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:29 PM
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29. Better than Texas, At Least
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 03:58 AM
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47. Hey that's not nice
Despite the religious nuts and the Republicans in charge there are still nice things about Texas.
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wrate Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:40 PM
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30. If I am assured that no Christians are in Hell, I'll happily go there. n/t
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:48 PM
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32. "Being obsessed with who's going to heaven and who's going to hell..."
"Being obsessed with who's going to heaven and who's going to hell is kind of a pathetic waste of time."
:thumbsup: What a great line. :thumbsup:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:48 PM
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33. Go to heaven for the food, go to hell for the company. nt
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:54 PM
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35. Since this AssHat is not Christian
He and his other Faux Christians had best bring along plenty of Hot dogs and marshmallows, and hope their friends save a place for Them by the fire!
:nopity: :popcorn:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:55 PM
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36. Good. Maybe people will wake up. Remember, the Texas GOP platform
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 01:56 PM by impeachdubya
declares that the US is, quote, a "Christian Nation". Period. Makes me wonder how the fuck Ben Stein can look himself in the mirror every morning while supporting those douchebags.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:57 PM
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37. Perry knows exactly what he is doing. Playing to his base
It's a three way race, and all Perry has to do is get his hardcore base out to win. Kinky is stealing some of the liberal vote from Bell (I know he ain't liberal, but he's still getting their votes), and most of those moderates angry at Perry are going to Grandma. Perry is very shrewed, and quite ruthless.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 02:24 PM
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39. At least we'll have good company....
I can't think of anything more horrible than an eternity with Fundamentalists. It would be like Jesus Camp--forever.
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:58 AM
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41. Not any different from the Taliban, or the "good" Germans who went along with Hitler
Pastor John Hagee said in his sermon non-Christians were "going straight to hell with a non-stop ticket"

Many "good" Christians believe and accept that, because that is what the Bible teaches, and the Bible is the absolute "word of God", not to be questioned. They have been taught that probably since childhood, and by many evangelists and preachers.

Just like many "good" Germans believed and accepted that they were the master race, and certain groups of people were worthy only of being slaves, or (in the case of the Jews) being exterminated, because Hitler said so, and they accepted him as their Fuhrer.

It is not much of a leap from believing that non-Christians are headed for hell, and that this is the just will of God, to believing that some groups of people (Jews, gays, etc.) are the epitome of evil, and that the world ought to be rid of them, and to regard it as one's right and duty to do whatever one can to, at best, making this present life very miserable for such people.

As Voltaire said, as long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 03:00 AM
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44. Jigoku e iku, Perry-baka
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:12 AM
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52. Perry wa honto ni baka desune
Edited on Tue Nov-07-06 10:18 AM by Art_from_Ark
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 03:56 PM
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53. Sou desu
to hentai dai-yo.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 03:17 AM
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45. Mr. Perry aka worthless rethug asshole....
He's your G-d...
There your rules...
You burn in hell!!!

Hagee is a piece of bible thumping shit, fuck him.

I think Kinky Friedman's statement sums it ALL up very well: "A pathetic waste of time."
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 03:21 AM
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46. He's such a jerk
The fact that such a comment wouldn't offend the majority of the voters in this state is the sad part. In fact, I wouldn't be that surprised if such a comment was strategically timed on his part. He's basically just counting on getting his fundie base to win this election; those are the only people in this state supporting him at this point. Sadly, that is probably all it will take for him to be re-elected and become the longest-serving governor in Texas history.

(I'll be voting for Bell today, though, and hoping for the best!)
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:10 AM
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48. And hypocrites (MOST calling themselves Christians)...
and most likely including Mr. Perry, will spend eternity at the LOWEST rung of hell... so there, you stupid asswipe. You've got worse to look forward to than the "heathens" you malign.

:evilgrin: Bwahahaha!!!! Stupid friggin' retard/repug! :grr:
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:31 AM
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50. I like Kinky Friedman.
Of course, since I have no leg in that election, I know little about what his platform is or whether I would actually vote for him or not. But, I think he's a "tell it as it is" kind of guy, and I appreciate that about him.

As for whether one believes everyone who isn't Christian will go to Hell... they need to think about their own salvation rather than everybody else's. So, basically shut up and live a positive life rather than judging everybody else.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:45 AM
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51. The last texas governor thought the same thing
:puke:

As stupid and outrageous as that is, I have a hard time thinking it will hurt him in any substantial way.
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