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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:24 PM
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Electoral-vote.com prediction:
based on independent polls -
Senate: 51 Democrats, 49 Republicans.
Projected New House: 239 Democrats, 196 Republicans.
http://electoral-vote.com/

:woohoo:
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:25 PM
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1. I like it!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:25 PM
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2. That's what I'm talkin' about!
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:26 PM
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3. Mort Zucker said today..
Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 10:47 PM by skooooo
...that whenever the House switches, the Senate always switches too.

We'll see!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:28 PM
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5. Didn't know that
Interesting!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:19 PM
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15. The last time that didn't happen was 1930
Democrats took the House but not the Senate. Of course they won the Senate in a landslide in 1932.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:27 PM
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4. 51 in the Senate? Are they predicting a Lieberman defeat?
That would be sweet.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:29 PM
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8. They count him as a Democrat
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:31 PM
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9. No, he's counted as a Dem
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:28 PM
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6. Well for the Senate that assumes
LIEberman caucuses with the Dems - I'm not so sure.....

but if it turns out this way it is FAR better than we even hoped for at the beginning of the year - back in those old days the political "wisdom" claimed we didn't have a chance in the Senate.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:34 PM
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19. Relax. There is 0% chance Lieberman would caucus with Republicans. nt
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:19 AM
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26. Politicians dance with those that brung them
That is a bastardization of something Molly Ivins has said. And them that brung Lieberman are the Republicans. Why wouldn't he caucus with them that brung him?
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:40 PM
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31. Actually, Democrats and Republicans are supporting him.
He has formed a bi-partisan coalition, but he will not leave the Democratic Party.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:09 AM
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40. Calling what Joe Lieberman has done bipartisan
is a little disingenuous I think.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:51 AM
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28. Keep dreaming.....
any man who would run as an independent after running in the Democratic primary and losing would do anything and you are SO completely wrong that there is 0% chance. I don't know what the chance is but it IS NOT 0%. If the Senate is 51 49 Dems or 50 50 LIEberman will be courted like crazy from both parties and you have NO WAY of knowing which way it will go - and given his despicable behavior it is not the least bit inconceivable that he will caucus with the repunks.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:39 PM
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30. Lieberman has been a Dem all his life, and he isn't going to desert his
Democratic collegues. It will never happen.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:46 PM
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34. Yes he is so concerned about his democratic
colleagues that he lost a democratic primary and ran as an independent anyway. The man is a despicable sore loser who is beyond pathetic and deserves the vote or the respect of NO ONE!
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:36 AM
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38. Well, I don't believe he derserves my vote.
And I would not vote for him given the choice of Lamont. However, most Connecticut voters are not members of the Democratic Party, and he appears to have the support of the majority of the people there. That's the way Democracy works when we don't like the results (same way as it works when we like the results).
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:44 PM
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33. There's always the DINOs who vote with the RW
To really make a difference with the Senate, we'd have to have a much bigger margin.

Or maybe it's margarine.

:hi:
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:52 PM
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35. Its not his votes I'm worried about
its if he chooses to caucus with the repunks and give them the majority and all the committe chairs - that is why the control of the Senate is so important - who controls the place. The only sure way for CT to know that their Senator will be part of the Dem majority is to vote for Lamont. I don't trust LIEberman at all period - he doesn't deserve any Democrat's trust after he ran in a Dem primary lost and then chose to run as an independent showing COMPLETE disrespect for the democratic process and the democratic voters - the man SUCKS....
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:50 PM
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41. I wasn't just referring to Lieberman--didn't mention his name.
There are a few other DINOs, unfortunately.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:16 PM
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44. I hear that....
I live in Florida, Bill Nelson - LIEberman of the South without the kiss - every single issue I have contacted him about he has voted the other way....gives me a HUGE headache....
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:21 PM
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45. Ok, you win... I'm in CO, and furious with Salazar, but...
he might not be quite the weasel that Nelson is.

On the other hand...

:mad:

See, that's at least two we can count on, besides Liberman, to sell us down the river.

No worries. :nuke:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:29 PM
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7. Is one of the senators Lieberman and how do they brand him?
If he wins Joe could suddenly become a very powerful guy. He could be the 50the Dem or Repuke. What a revoltin' development.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:22 PM
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16. Yeah... Looks Like They Are Calling Him A Dem...
:puke:
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:36 PM
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10. I think this website predicted Kerry would have a strong win in the last
election didn't it?

Anyway GOTV polls dont mean much.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:40 PM
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11. No, they had it a nail biter with Kerry slightly ahead in Ohio
and New Mexico which was probably correct before they machines reversed a number of Kerry's votes. This projection is based on the latest polls so it's probably pretty close.
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:40 PM
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12. That sounds about right
Following the polls that seems about right. Only way this will happen is if everyone who hasn't voted yet polled goes out and does so.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:43 PM
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13. I like the Senate numbers but the house numbers look like a pipe dream
I like it, but it seems a little over the edge. A 58 seat gain? I think thirty to forty seat gain might be a more realistic number.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:30 PM
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17. That's 37 seats, not 58.
Current House: 232 R, 202 D, 1 I (according to the House Clerk's Ofice)
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:20 AM
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27. Oh, silly me
Our gain of one seat is their loss of one seat, but a difference of two. Damn that fuzzy math :crazy:

37 is a great number, and doable!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:16 PM
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14. So far so good nm
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:33 PM
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18. They are saying what I've been saying since Thursday: Virginia and Missouri.
"The two races that will determine control of the Senate are Virginia and Missouri. The Democrats need to win both to control the Senate. Both are virtually tied."

I feel good for our chances in both these states.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:36 PM
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20. NOW THAT'S MORE LIKE IT!!!!!!
:woohoo::woohoo:
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:42 PM
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21. Kick
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:55 PM
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22. Before we get too excited
This is what they were predicting on that website the day before the 2004 election:
Kerry 298 Bush 231

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/nov/nov01.html
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gordontron Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:04 AM
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23. it's hard to look at that prediction without my gut twisting nt
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:04 AM
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24. They only missed Ohio and Florida, where we know there is huge election fraud in place. (nt)
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:18 AM
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36. They missed Iowa the most
they had that one blue.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:13 AM
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25. What's Diebold's prediction?
Sorry, I'm just not feeling so confident about a fair election.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 09:58 PM
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29. kick nm
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:42 PM
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32. Only one thing can make that prediction turn into reality......
GOTV!!
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:19 AM
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37. Your link don't work:
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AntiWarPoster Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:37 AM
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39. I agree with it, Sabato basically agrees as well
nm
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:51 PM
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42. How reliable is this site?
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:54 PM
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43. Well, it pretty closely matched the Exit Polls in 2004.
Take that as you will.

It also has some excellent explanations of how polling processes work. The webmaster is an American Programmer living in Europe. he's also a Dem.
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