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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 06:46 PM
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Jeff Sharlett on State of Belief now...wrote Jesus Plus Nothing.
http://www.harpers.org/JesusPlusNothing.html?pg=1

"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
—Matthew 10:36

This is how they pray: a dozen clear-eyed, smooth-skinned “brothers” gathered together in a huddle, arms crossing arms over shoulders like the weave of a cable, leaning in on one another and swaying like the long grass up the hill from the house they share. The house is a handsome, gray, two-story colonial that smells of new carpet and Pine-Sol and aftershave; the men who live there call it Ivanwald. At the end of a tree-lined cul-de-sac, quiet but for the buzz of lawn mowers and kids playing foxes-and-hounds in the park across the road, Ivanwald sits as one house among many, clustered together like mushrooms, all devoted, like these men, to the service of Jesus Christ. The men tend every tulip in the cul-de-sac, trim every magnolia, seal every driveway smooth and black as boot leather. And they pray, assembled at the dining table or on their lawn or in the hallway or in the bunk room or on the basketball court, each man's head bowed in humility and swollen with pride (secretly, he thinks) at being counted among such a fine corps for Christ, among men to whom he will open his heart and whom he will remember when he returns to the world not born-again but remade, no longer an individual but part of the Lord's revolution, his will transformed into a weapon for what the young men call “spiritual war.” "

You need to read all of that article. My senator is in that group, is yours? Read it all.

And there are some victims of the religious tendencies in our politics, I fear.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/559


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 06:56 PM
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1. A couple more paragraphs from Jesus Plus Nothing.
"In the process of introducing powerful men to Jesus, the Family has managed to effect a number of behind-the-scenes acts of diplomacy. In 1978 it secretly helped the Carter Administration organize a worldwide call to prayer with Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat, and more recently, in 2001, it brought together the warring leaders of Congo and Rwanda for a clandestine meeting, leading to the two sides' eventual peace accord last July. Such benign acts appear to be the exception to the rule. During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa's postcolonial leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand “Communists” killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators. During the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government and men such as Salvadoran general Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the CIA and death squads before his own demise. “We work with power where we can,” the Family's leader, Doug Coe, says, “build new power where we can't.”

At the 1990 National Prayer Breakfast, George H.W. Bush praised Doug Coe for what he described as “quiet diplomacy, I wouldn't say secret diplomacy,” as an “ambassador of faith.” Coe has visited nearly every world capital, often with congressmen at his side, “making friends” and inviting them back to the Family's unofficial headquarters, a mansion (just down the road from Ivanwald) that the Family bought in 1978 with $1.5 million donated by, among others, Tom Phillips, then the C.E.O. of arms manufacturer Raytheon, and Ken Olsen, the founder and president of Digital Equipment Corporation. A waterfall has been carved into the mansion's broad lawn, from which a bronze bald eagle watches over the Potomac River. The mansion is white and pillared and surrounded by magnolias, and by red trees that do not so much tower above it as whisper. The mansion is named for these trees; it is called The Cedars, and Family members speak of it as a person. “The Cedars has a heart for the poor,” they like to say. By “poor” they mean not the thousands of literal poor living barely a mile away but rather the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom: the senators, generals, and prime ministers who coast to the end of Twenty-fourth Street in Arlington in black limousines and town cars and hulking S.U.V.'s to meet one another, to meet Jesus, to pay homage to the god of The Cedars."

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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 07:13 PM
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2. You know, I've been wondering if I wanted to watch
"The Hitcher" remake, since it promises to be a bloody, nasty, horror-filled couple of hours. After reading Sharlet's article, I don't think I'll have any qualms about the movie -- nothing could match the horror of what I've just read.
And yes, one of my state senators (Ensign) belongs to this group of freaks.
gads.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 07:14 PM
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3. It does give one chills.
When it was posted here over a year ago, some said Sharlett was not credible. I think J. Winston Gaddi on State of Belief finds him credible.

Most definitely chilling.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:19 AM
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4. More about this from the LA Times in 2002.
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 01:40 AM by madfloridian
http://www.toobeautiful.org/lat_020927.html

"The Fellowship, which sponsors the National Prayer Breakfast, quietly effects political change. It acts with the blessing of many in power.
by LISA GETTER

For the last two decades, a Virginia mansion has been a private hideaway for world leaders, members of Congress, and even pop star Michael Jackson. Located on a quiet residential street, the $4.4-million estate called Cedars sits at the highest point of the Potomac River, with spectacular views of Washington beyond the pool and tennis courts. It is owned by the Fellowship, the nonpartisan Christian group that sponsors the National Prayer Breakfast.

While the annual breakfast is a widely known event attended by a succession of U.S. presidents and foreign dignitaries, the Fellowship's part in the breakfast is low-key. Most attendees think the event is sponsored by Congress or even the president. Likewise, the Fellowship's role in diplomacy and current events has remained in the shadows. That's the way the organization wants it, for philosophical and practical reasons.

"If you want to help people, Jesus said you don't do your alms in public," Douglas Coe, the group's leader, said in a rare interview."

And every once in a while I like to repost my tribute to Oneighty, a DUer we recently lost....and his ode to his little silver car.

Gonna hop into that car of mine and drive around the world.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:12 PM
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6. Odd paragraph from the LA Times article.
Edited on Tue Nov-07-06 12:12 PM by madfloridian
"A four-story townhouse on C Street, two blocks from the Capitol, is owned by a sister organization of the Fellowship, and is registered with the IRS and the District of Columbia as a church. It pays no taxes. Yet eight members of Congress live there.

"We sort of don't talk to the press about the house," said Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), who lives there. The 8,000-square-foot detached townhouse has 12 bedrooms, nine bathrooms, five living rooms (including one with a big-screen TV), four dining rooms, three offices, a kitchen--and a small chapel. "The C Street property is a church," said Chip Grange, an attorney for the Fellowship. "It is zoned as a church. There are prayer meetings, fellowship meetings, evangelical meetings," he said. "Our mission field is Capitol Hill."

But at least one member of Congress who lives there, Rep. Michael F. Doyle (D-Pa.), said he didn't know the property was registered as a church. Doyle would not comment further."


http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:08 PM
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5. Scary
Although I should like to point out there are no longer "thousands of literal poor just across the river": the DLC yuppies and liberal defense contractors who control the DC city government drove them out. They benefit every bit as much from the Bush war economy.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:26 PM
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7. what do you all think of the reality show The Monastery?

I've just seen ads and promos for the show.

I have no desire to see it.
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