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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:02 PM
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Ben Stein now thinks that Iraq is a disaster....No shit Ben, ya think?
Didn't see this posted before. I liked Stein's comedy, which was my initial exposure to the dude. Couldn't believe his political positions(pardon my ignorance) once I started paying attention. Anyway, his change of opinion is incomplete without his desire for immediate arrest and jailing of Bushco & co after almost 3000 of our own an untold numbers of Iraqi civilians.
Splat



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/29/sunday/main21...
Times are very tough in Iraq and if I was still a speechwriter for the President, like I was for Mr. Nixon and Mr. Ford, this is what I would suggest he say:



My fellow Americans, I have some sobering news. It is my duty, above all, to protect the nation. I sincerely believed I was doing that when I ordered the invasion of Iraq. I still believe Saddam Hussein was the most dangerous man in the world. But it is clear to me now that things are not working out well in Iraq. Despite the incredible confidence, bravery and sacrifice of our men and women on the ground there, Iraq is still a violent, largely out of control nation. We may be making more terrorists than we destroy. "Quagmire" comes sadly to mind. It is clear that change must be made. Therefore, I have this morning accepted Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's resignation with sincere thanks for his service to the nation. He will be replaced by a truly heroic American, Senator John McCain of Arizona.

Despite my best intentions, I made mistakes in Iraq and mine is the responsibility. Good men and women died and hard-earned tax money was lost. Fine young men and women are crippled and disabled, which is a tragedy. It is time for a change. Therefore, I am convening an official, national, bi-partisan, blue ribbon commission composed of Democrats, Independents and Republicans, civilian and military, to start meeting at once and give me a recommendation in one month as to what our Iraq policy should be. All options are on the table. All.

I want to close with this thought. I am just a man. I have no miraculous powers. I have no special pipeline to God. Like all presidents from Jefferson and Lincoln onwards and believe me, I know I'm not in their league I make mistakes and sometimes good people die because of them. I am deeply sorry. As we re-examine our policy, I would ask that you all pray for us to make the right decision. May God continue to bless us all. Thank you.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:03 PM
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1. All those flip floppers are creating the wind that will blow the GOP
out of office next week!
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:05 PM
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2. Sorry mr. slime. It is far beyond apology. He has slandered the
American people, the constitution, and indeed the world.

Our squatter in chief deserves to be in prison where he can pray from behind thick steel walls and won't be able to destroy any more lives.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:06 PM
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3. Oh, whatever Mr. Republican!!!!
Sorry Ben, it's too late.

You already have blood on your hands. :puke:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:09 PM
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9. You got it, and that blood doesn't wash off.
Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall when he has to answer to that?!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:08 PM
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4. you know it's bad when a whore like him has to admit the truth
he's still a f***ing asshole
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:08 PM
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5. the only good thing about this....
He's soooo far to the right, that those who take him seriously now have been shaken to their foundations.

Other than that, may he rot.

Peacefully, of course. :evilgrin:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:08 PM
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6. It takes one to know one.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:08 PM
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7. Good lord. These asses still think it was an honest error.
It wasn't.
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:14 PM
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14. Nailed it, aquart. They (Stein included) sold a lie worth millions on the
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 08:15 PM by splat@14
deaths of thousands for nothing...
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:30 PM
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20. There may be some rethuglicans that believe that Iraq was an honest
error, but they are few and far between. Stein is not a stupid man. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell that Stein truly believed Iraq was an honest mistake. Like most of the other collaborators and enablers, he had hoped that miraculously Iraq would all work out. I personally believe the thought of controlling all that lovely oil made normally intelligent people STUPID with greed.
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:46 PM
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22. I think the rank & file voter repubs bought what was sold to them. At a
certain level, I agree they knew what was up but that was by far the smaller number. The samller number that knew sold the larger number they needed to win. I know many here in SE Texas that voted for the bastards `cause they were just mad after 9/11 and wanted to fight somebody and others that voted religeous beliefs that had crap-all to do with oil or profits for Haliburton for example. That said, the PNAC,the administration, Haliburton execs, etc knew what was up and sold it....my opinion only.

Give `em hell Raster!
Splat
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:09 PM
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8. Stein is a filthy scumbag n/t
n/t
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:09 PM
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10. nice avatar
:hi:


When I learned Stein was a tool, I just didn't find him funny anymore. :(
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:17 PM
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16. Yep, war makes things unfunny, eh? It is a cool avatar!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:09 PM
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11. As usual, Ben has it wrong...
"It is my duty, above all, to protect the nation"

Incorrect.

The President's duty, above all, is to uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:17 PM
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17. Bingo.
Even in fantasy Ben is still trying to "shape" the public into a misperception of what the President's role is. Asshole.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:10 PM
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12. Ben Stein realizes his game show's been cancelled, his hero Nixon
resigned in disgrace, and that he's no longer worthy of my attention.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:13 PM
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13. The chickenhawks are jumping off the bandwagon
Who's going to carry the white flag when all of them are gone?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:16 PM
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15. ". . . and mine is the responsibility"
Bwahahahahahaha!!!

:rofl:

Good one, Ben!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:19 PM
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18. His dad, Herbert Stein actually believed that income disparity...
is The greatest threat to this country.

No kiddin'.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:21 PM
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19. that's an interesting tidbit
What did his father do for a living?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:40 PM
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25. Herbert Stein was chief of the council of economic advisers for
Ford, and, perhaps Nixon also.

He made the comment about income disparity on the Diane Rehm show about ten years ago. It was a show with all the heads of the President's Council of Economic Advisers from Nixon to Clinton. I remember Laura D'Andrea Tyson said in response to his comment, "I'm glad you said that, because I'd be accused of trying to start 'class warfare' if I said it."
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:07 AM
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26. so, what, did Poppa Stein short young Bennie a few
quarters of his allowance a few times too many?

Repugs are a shrink's playground, so many repressed issues,
dp
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:24 AM
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28. evil spawn
it would seem
:evilfrown:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:01 AM
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31. Ben was born and raised a selfish little rich kid.
I've seen him around DC a couple of times. He rents bikes out of Thompson's Boat House on the Potomac.
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bperci108 Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:34 PM
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21. So the Human Dial-Tone finally came to his senses...
'bout bloody time.....


:eyes:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:48 PM
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23. eat a bowl of fuck mr. stein, I don't want to hear it.
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:02 PM
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24. Never dined on that dish but he can have one, my treat.
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:15 AM
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27. "Opps, sorry about the war, I fucked up" That's what he wants Bush to say but in more words???
Ben stein is a gut magget without guts.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:24 AM
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29. Well, for starters, THIS would be complete and utter bulls**t:
I sincerely believed I was doing that when I ordered the invasion of Iraq. I still believe Saddam Hussein was the most dangerous man in the world.

Bush never believed any such thing, nor should the American public.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:02 AM
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30. Jim Baker has similar comments to Bush but not until after 11/07/06...
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