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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:38 PM
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What would you give to their side for National health care?
In a hypothetcial negotiation.
I, for instance, would let them put the Ten Commandments everywhere, but I wouldn't let them criminalize abortion.
How far would you go?


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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:39 PM
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1. I wouldn't give them a thing....they are never, ever going to
negotiate fairly...everytime the Dems agree to something and keep their word the Repugs stab them in the back....No what we need is a majority in both houses and then have * use his veto against Universal Healthcare...
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:41 PM
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2. That's why I said "hypothetical"
For instance, if the right said "Let us teach the Bible in public schools" would you let them for Universal care?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:44 PM
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6. I agree. There is no deal there with those liars.n/t
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:43 PM
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3. A good swift kick in the pants.
That's what I would like to give them. :sarcasm:
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 08:21 AM
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25. Amen to that! n/t
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:43 PM
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4. There already is national healthcare...
...just get yourself thrown in prison so you can get treatment in any state.

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:46 PM
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8. The military too
Sign up for Chimpy's Grand Adventure in Iraq and you can get 3 hots and a cot, plus a doctor to amputate your leg after it gets hit with shrapnel. :sarcasm:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:07 PM
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20. Actually, 60% of our health care back in 2000 was from the
government. Between, Medicare, Medicaid, Champus, Chips, and the VA 60% of money paid into health care is by government programs. I don't know how true that is today because I haven't kept up, but the insurance industry won't let go of that other 40% and probably has increased their influence, not their health care dollars mind you, but their influence.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:44 PM
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5. Why the hell do we have to compromise on anything like that
in order to get healthcare for everyone?
If they were so damned religious, they would want healthcare for everyone anyway.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:44 PM
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7. I would call off the investigation of Jeff Gannon
that seems fair. If they agree to double the minimum wage, I'd drop the investigation of Danny The Hut letting Foley get over on underaged pages for 2 years. For every major concession, I'd agree to drop one prosecution.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:46 PM
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9. You mean, the way they've been compromising with us?
I'd tell them to fuck themselves.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:51 PM
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11. That won't get you far
unless you're rich.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:05 PM
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19. That's not true. - n/t
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:49 PM
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10. I'd let them keep their drug war
since most dems also enjoy the drug war.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:51 PM
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12. Why would you give them anything? National Health Care increases
productivity for corporations. Read Malcolm Gladwell's piece in the August 2005 New Yorker. Or what Paul Krugman has written. Right now, per American, you spend $6000 or so. Canadians spend $2000 or so. National Health care makes for wealthy doctors (I was around a hospital last summer and every third car parked around the place was a really fancy one...doctors are doing okay in Canada). It makes for better preventive health. It makes for healthier people.

Right up there with good public schools.

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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:52 PM
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13. I'd promise to not support outing of gay republicans
or keep proping up drug companies with the Medicare bill if big pharma agreed to put all those profits into research and development.

I'd give them the South. Go back to 1865, draw the line. The could send us food and cotton and we could send them straight jackets. They'd get Bush, and all the racists and born agains. We'd get science.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:54 PM
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15. Your answer is the only one yet on this thread that is on topic
Even if it is tongue-in-cheek (it is tongue-in-cheek, right?)
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:53 AM
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21. well, maybe not the part about
the South.

There was a great "rant" in "the Internets" on that subject after the 2004 election. Something along the lines of "we fought a war to make sure we kept these racits religious nut cases?" Wish I had kept it, it was well done.

There are days. . .
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:54 PM
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14. judging by your OP and by our current medical system....
i'm sorry i'd have to give it a no-go. our current medical system gives NOTHING for our health and everything for the damn slice and dice, and drug companies. i for one am not willing to support that.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:58 PM
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16. They would have National Health care too
isn't that enough? I mean it's not like something is being taken from them in the first place. So that's the deal, they get to participate.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:02 PM
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18. That is not how the conservative mind thinks
They think "Socialism", without ever exploring the costs and benefits. That is the main downfall of the conservative mind, unwillingness to change.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:02 PM
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17. They Give First... Then We "Negotiate" Cause I Don't Trsut Them!
Plus, they will have to write it in BLOOD!! THEIRS!!!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 08:05 AM
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22. If National Health Care was
universal, single-payer, and not-for-profit, I'd give them my thanks for joining me in doing the right thing for all people.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 08:09 AM
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23. Healthy Republican Children
(There's, not mine, as mine are healthy anarcho-syndicalists that will vote straight-line Democrat like their dad!)
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 08:20 AM
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24. How about free breast enlargement for their women?
Hell, I'd even retroactively reimburse Katie Harris for the twins. They hate women anyway, might as well let them upgrade their "toys." My apologies to my female DU friends. I'm only holding my nose and trying to think like them. I love you just the way you are. ;)

Seriously, give them nothing. Plus, insert specific language that every woman in America has free access to on demand abortion. Then fund .30 cal MG nests on the roof of every woman's health clinic in the country and investigate every church and religious based organization in the nation for tax fraud, not just the 'liberal' ones.
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