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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:56 PM
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Did you hear what Charlie Cook, The Cook Report, said on MSNBC???
He said it's very doubtful the repukes will be able to turn these numbers around before next Tuesday! It looks like, according to Charlie, the Democrats will pick up 20 seats. The House is in the BAG people! :bounce: :woohoo: :bounce:

Charlie also said it looks like we'll have a 50/50 Senate...... Meaning Cheney breaks ties, but THAT is difficult to do when your ass is sitting in jail, where I suspect he'll be spending some time...VERY SOON! Things are looking GOOD!
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:58 PM
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1. Ignore all polls and fight like hell
It's better to be pleasantly surprised than to be bitterly disappointed.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:21 PM
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22. YES!
Agreed.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:59 PM
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2. That's nice, but lets not get too optimistic
I remember being very up in '04 at about this time only to see disappointment. There are still many close races--including for Democrats in the Senate in NJ and MD. Also why do you think Cheney will be in jail soon? You need 2/3 of the senate to convict him if impeached.

It's looking good but still a week to go!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:03 PM
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7. Read this thread? Cheney's in HUGE trouble.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:06 PM
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12. I'm not so sure about that
but even if he were forced to resign or impeached, Bush would appoint another Republican VP.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:12 PM
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13. Right, but none as slimy and corrupt as Cheney,
right? ;)

Even if we don't have a majority in the Senate, we will win the House. Once we do that, John Conyers will be very, very busy....evidence of corruption will be exposed. Once the people know what the repukes have done, their revolution is OVER.

PLUS, it sounds like Cheney isn't the ONLY WH rat bastard who will be taken down. There are more. :)
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:16 PM
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16. Yes, but the senate will have to confirm his choice so * will have to
be careful about who he chooses.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:05 PM
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10. Let's not get too pessimistic!
I *AM* optimistic and will remain so. It's what spurns me on to work harder.

Please stop telling people not to get optimistic.
Thanks.

Peace.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:20 PM
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19. That's more like it!
:hi:
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:18 PM
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17. dude, what's your problem?
I really need to dig up those studies I read during my psych major days that demonstrate that optimism is a better motivator and energizer than pessimism.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:22 PM
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23. Debbie Downer
from SNL.



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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:59 PM
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3. Nothing is in the bag
until election day, and I hope our pickup is closer to 30 than 20. That's a definite possibility. As for Cheney being in jail, it's a great fantasy, but that's all it is.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:02 PM
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5. It is in the bag
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 01:22 PM by malaise
Make sure you shout it from the house tops and don't give them a chance to steal it. Time for Dems to stop this coward's approach. Every poll that matters has the Democratic Party in front. Time to go on the offensive Dems.

Sp.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:06 PM
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11. My thoughts too. EVEN THE MSM is on this this time!
They aren't giving the repukes any room for FOUL PLAY. If ALL polls show the Dems will win, they make think twice before stealing this one.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:23 PM
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24. Make sure that you start shouting from housetops
and don't allow these coward Dems to play coy or they will attempt to steal it.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:01 PM
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4. Don't forget that no matter how big the win..
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 01:02 PM by SeveneightyWhoa
..the GOP will FIGHT tooth and freakin' nail.

We're talking allegations of voter fraud (Venezuela interfered with our election machines!), court battles -- think of the worst lies and propaganda efforts of the past six years and multiply that by six.

That's what I'm afraid of..
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:21 PM
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21. Remember Washington in 2004
and how they drug the court challenges out for months. We can expect that again. Charges of vote miscounting and voter fraud for the most miniscule of reasons.
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:03 PM
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6. That is good news. Goes along with another post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

about how dems are gaining momentum & voters are choicing dems over repugs.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:03 PM
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8. With the repubs....
and Rove controlling the voting machines I still do not feel comfortable about this election....
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:05 PM
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9. 5 states already seeing vote theft by repugs. Not won yet.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:13 PM
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14. We thought 2004 was in the bag... and 2000 and 2002
I'll believe it when I see it and won't stop helping until it's official

http://pol.moveon.org/phone/volunteer/c4c.html
Call For Change: It's Too Close NOT to Call

Call for Change -- It`s Too Close NOT to Call -- MoveOn.org Political ActionThis year, victory will come down to voter turnout. We've found the Democratic-leaning people who often don't vote in mid-term elections like this one. If we can just get these unlikely voters to vote, they'll provide a winning margin in a whole bunch of races.

Over 30 races are in a dead heat margins of a few thousand or few hundred votes. Weve tested these calls, and we know they work the people we talk to are much more likely to turn out. Your calls could tip the balance but we're in a daily struggle to make sure we're reaching more voters than the Republicans infamous turnout program. Can you help?
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:14 PM
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15. don't count your diebold returns before they're official ...
... or something like that.

there are a lot of people watching the district by district polling and saying a pickup of 23-27 seats is probable. I'll believe it when they get sworn in.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:20 PM
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18. Nothing is in the bag, until it's in the bag. Some confidence and positive
feeling is warranted, and also a lot of worry, IMHO.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:24 PM
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25. I understand.....believe me. I worry too,
but if all polls say the Dems take the House by 20 seats, KKKRove will think twice before he steals this election. IF he does steal it, people will be SCREAMING FRAUD. Many, many, many more people know about the hackable evoting machines now.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:21 PM
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20. Nothings in the bag, keep fighting
Pretend we are 20 seats behind.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:29 PM
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26. Optimism is one thing...
it's up there with wishful thinking. Being overly confident is another animal entirely and a dangerous one, as it can lead to complacency.

As for the MSM leading the charge of a Dem 'landslide', I'm not sure this is a good thing. While it makes my heart sing to hear, again it can lead some to be complacent. If the MSM make it sound like such a certainty, many who would get off their duffs and go vote in a 'tight race' will not bother as they have been led to believe it's 'already in the bag'. Indys and pissed off repubs will also feel their vote is not needed. It will also motivate more repugs to turn out to fight the 'odds'.

I have been on this roller coaster of emotions too many times to buy into 'it's a slam dunk!' Calling this election before Nov 8th is dangerous and counter productive. We have to fight like we're the underdog to the last vote, or we'll end up losing....again.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:31 PM
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27. I wouldn't bounce until Diebold is out of the mix

Didn't I see a post here about D votes coming out as R votes in 4 states already?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:35 PM
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28. Pretend we're 25 points behind. Fight like hell until 8pm Nov. 7th.
Let's take nothing for granted.
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