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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:14 AM
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Bush's twang talk....phoney or real?
Monkey Boy Bush is on CNN right now. He is speaking to some people in Georgia. Has anybody ever notice that whenever he makes speeches in the South or in some rural area, Bush's supposed "twang" is more prominent then when he is in D.C. or speaking in some urban area? I have often heard that he has been coached to use that so-called "Texas twang" whenever speaking to the country folk out on the road.

Geez, does the phoneyness of this man ever end?



John
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:16 AM
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1. I know for a fact that it's faked
and I'll tell everybody how when that family is disgraced and out of power. His normal accent is "educated southern," meaning just a hint of southern underneath a New England patrician accent.

Of course, that doesn't include the slurred words he has now, probably due to damage from years of heavy drinking.
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:21 AM
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4. are we saying that * is fake
I thought that everyone from Ct. who went to Yale speaks that way. Watching him speak "suthern" is almost as funny as his "mezcan".
I'm from south Georgia, and I don't even speak as suthern as he's pretending to do. I wish he'd go to Boston because I'd love to hear his "park the car in the yard".
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:39 AM
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He sure doesn't sound like any Texan I know
and since I'm next door in NM, I know quite a few of them.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:18 AM
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2. His twang is as natural as Twinkies and naugahyde
He and his family are New England born and bred, after all.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:50 AM
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19. at least Twinkies have more substance than the empty vagaries of Frat Boy
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:18 AM
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3. Ever heard someone from Texas use the words 'fabulous' or 'kerfuffle'?
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 10:19 AM by htuttle
Me neither...Them is New England elite words.


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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:22 AM
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5. I liked how Molly Ivins described Bush
All hat and no cattle. He's no more of a cowboy than I am. Considering the fact he lives in a "ranch" that was once a pig farm. Nah. If they ever put Shrub's face on a Dollar Bill, it will be a $3 bill. He's that fake!


John
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:17 AM
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22. It's hard to be a cowboy when you are terrified of horses. NT
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:27 AM
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6. He's totally full of shit.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:27 AM
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7. my texan boys (i am a calif iving in tx) are truly and deeply offended
by bush supposed texan talk. they hate it. they hate that nation wide he has led people to believe this is how texans talk. they hate that thru bush, the texans appear illiterate and this is what represents their state. and they often speak out against it.

i on the other hand have a much better texan accent than my boys,.... my texan born and raised hubby and most other texans in this area, wink
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:37 AM
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11. Proud of Texas, Ashamed of Bush
As Texans should be. I have no doubt many clear-thinking Texans are rightly ashamed of having this ass-clown Bush dragging down the name of Texas. It's also especially galling when he wasn't even born there. Believe me. I sympathize with Texans like your hubby, friends, the Dixie Chicks, and whoever that have to deal with this moron.


John
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:34 AM
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8. Not a single one of *'s siblings sounds that way. Hmm......nt
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:36 AM
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9. I believe in your coaching reference
and I'm sure a video clip review would prove that theory correct.
He goes all statesman-patrician speaking when he's appearing with an international leader. Or when he's in the North.
But get the guy south of the Mason Dixon line and he's all cornpone Hollywood cowboy. Or Reagan cowboy. It's the Republican "I'm a man" act. (works particularly well for men who avoided fulfilling their Guard service, went to prep school, have never had a job Daddy didn't arrange, and like to dress up in flight suits).
Don't appear too smart, you'll scare the base - they don't like "smart people". Use folksy language. Guffaw whenever possible - even when it's not appropriate. Use simple language. Repeat yourself constantly. And say everything with steely conviction - even when it's outright lies.
There is a certain percentage (you know, those people who still have "W" sticker son their vehicles) who still swallow this act.
Bless their little hearts.

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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:39 AM
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13. Bless their Little Hearts
and their Empty Heads.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:39 AM
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14. Not even Reagan used a fake accent.
No. Bush is the biggest phoney to ever occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Bar none!



John
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:37 AM
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10. As phony as a John Wayne accent!!
"Ya better watch yer step there, Pill-grim"
"Wah-Hah"

:rofl:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:38 AM
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12. He's trying to imitate John Wayne. Watch Moore's "Fahrenheit 9-11"
There's a scene from before Bush was governor, where he's talking about the access he has to the White House because of his father. No hint of the "accent," or whatever you call it.

Rove started grooming him for the national stage, they needed someone who seemed rugged and Texan and the opposite of Clinton and Gore and their suave, educated speech. They also needed something to keep people from labeling the effeminate W as "wimp," the way his father was labeled. So they started working on a John Wayne persona--speech, swagger, snarl, tough talk, etc. It's a bad imitation, but that's what it's supposed to be.

Ann Richards used to say that she was a native Texan, and Bush Daddy was a potted plant. Holds true of Little B, as well. Both phoney, both liars. Lousy family, top to bottom. The twins are fun, though, from what I hear.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:42 AM
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15. Look how he spoke pre 2000 -- NOT A BIT OF TWANG
And, only a baby one during the 2000 election campaign trail... FAKE.

I'm almost 42, and have lived in either NC or VA since I was 17... and I don't have a southern accent. I say y'all now, and certain words sound a teeny "southern," but that's it.

PHONY!
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:42 AM
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16. Its probably habit
I'm from Texas and have a regular accent (none) but I can get a twang going if a want to especially talking around other people with a twang. But in the south its a drawl. So yeah he faking cause he's too stupid to know the difference.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:42 AM
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17. I was raised in Texas
It's fake, and none of my relatives sound like that (thank God). I have actually been complimented on NOT sounding like I was raised there, but I lived in San Antonio, which has a high number of people from all over living there, thanks to the military bases.

Having said that, however, people from East Texas sound differently than people from West Texas, who also sound differently from people in the Rio Grande Valley, who sound differently from people in the plains.

Texas is big enough that there are subdialects within the state, and it would take a good ear and/or someone who's lived there long enough to tell the difference.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:15 PM
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26. It is a bizarre hodge-podge of phonemes that has NOTHING to do with
a genuine Texas accent.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:47 AM
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18. He has virtually no Texas accent when speaking before the UN
He turns into a veritable range-ridin' cowboy when speaking in front of southern and midwestern crowds. He's as fake as his Crawford "ranch."

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:52 AM
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20. He chewed tobacco at one time...
I remember seeing Georgie at the Harvard Business School, said Torbert Macdonald, an old classmate from Andover, but he looked so lost and forlorn I didnt have the heart to say hello.

Others were less sympathetic. I can still see him in his cowboy boots and leather flight jacket walking into macroeconomics, recalled a classmate. He sat in the back of the class, chewing tobacco and spitting it into a dirty paper cup . . . He was one red-assed Texan who made sure he was in your Yankee face and up your New England nose.


http://www.cocaine.org/george-bush/index.html

I remember reading that in an earlier campaign for public office in Texas, W used to roam around the campaign office and spit tobacco juice in the wastebaskets.

I know this doesn't address the OP, but it seems he is hard-pressed to be perceived as "folksy." You know, someone the 'Merican people would want to have a beer with!
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:59 AM
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21. Listen to how he sounds drunk to hear his true accent...
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 10:59 AM by Crankie Avalon
...and video of the likes of him drunk shouldn't be too hard to find: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au1ZOA9iH3I
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:22 AM
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23. I recently saw a YouTube clip of him from 2000 pronouncing
nuclear correctly. He's an actor.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:26 AM
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24. I was born in the north and moved to the south.
I was a college english major and have a law degree and speak very proper English when speaking publicly.

But I have to say that in just a few years in the south I developed a "twang" worse than Bush's.

I moved back north over 20 years ago, but the wierd thing is, I only have to talk to one of my old friends for 5 minutes for it all to come back. I scared my wife once, she thought I turned into something else.

So I see no reason to doubt its real, though he can turn it on and off, of course, as I can.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:27 AM
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25. Velveeta is closer to real cheese than Bush's fake accent.
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