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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:38 AM
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President Of Nat'l Lawyers Guild - IDENTIFIES - Bush & Cheney's War Crimes
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 09:39 AM by kpete
Have Bush and Cheney Committed War Crimes?
Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2006-10-30 05:38. Evidence
By Michael O'McCarthy

On October 20, Professor Marjorie Cohn became president of the National Lawyers Guild. In an interview with me Sunday, the new president of the NLG identified several instances in which she says President Bush has violated U.S. and international law. Here they are:

1) Bush illegally invaded a sovereign nation under false pretenses and then put laws in place to immunize himself and his high officials from war crimes prosecutions. Even before Bush removed his hand from the Bible Laura held as Chief Justice William Rehnquist swore him in as President, Bush was planning to attack Iraq and change its regime.

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3) Under the guise of fighting the terrorists, but undoubtedly aimed at those who criticize his policies, Bush inaugurated a secret program of warrantless spying on Americans that violates the Fourth Amendment and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

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5) Bush illegally suspended the Geneva Conventions, ordered the summary execution of those he suspected of terrorist connections, and put policies in place that resulted in torture and inhuman treatment of prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantnamo and the CIA's "black sites."

6) Bush pushed the Military Commissions Act through Congress that unconstitutionally destroys habeas corpus rights for non-US citizens and waters down our obligations under the Geneva Conventions. It also allows Bush to classify both US and non-US citizens as "unlawful enemy combatants" and lock them up indefinitely.

more crimes at:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/15031
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:42 AM
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1. People were hanged for less at the Nuremberg Trials n/t
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Katzenjammer Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 09:32 AM
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37. But that was them. Our politicians are immune (nt)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:44 AM
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2. K& R
for locking up war criminals
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:01 AM
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3. K&R n/t
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:02 AM
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4. k&r, for the US Constitution
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:06 AM
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5. I agree with what she said, but I think her rhetoric is a little over the top
I doubt if the phrase, "Under the guise of fighting the terrorists, but undoubtedly aimed at those who criticize his policies," would stand up in court.
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:12 AM
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6. Those charges would undoubtedly stand up
in a court which used the Constitution as its basis for judgment.

A court that uses political and corporate expediency in place of Constitutional Law would
reject it outrightly.

:eyes:
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:38 PM
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15. Would it not more likely depend on the judge.
What rhetoric? You presume a lot, without however making an alternative case. All Bush's behaviour is hardwired; all his actions as Potus constitute a clear pattern and can be cross-refrenced. When someone is apprehended by police for wearing an anti-Bush tee-shirt slogan, you have a problem of nascent tyranny.
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:34 PM
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24. Doesn't have to stand up in court, but does in Congress
... to nit pick at your figure of speech, but I do for a reason.
The rules are different in an impeachment "trial" than in a trial in court.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:23 AM
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7. Anyone voting 'puke in November isn't bothered by any of this for any one
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 10:24 AM by indepat
of these crimes should be sufficient reason to vote against all 'pukes who have supported/would support these actions.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:14 PM
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8. K & R
n/t
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:36 PM
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9. When do we take him to court?
:kick:
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:29 PM
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10. The 372 page Conyer's List
I. The Downing Street Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution and Coverups in the Iraq War

II. Unlawful Domestic Surveillance and the Decline of Civil Liberties Under the Administration of George W. Bush

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/iraqrept2/webf...
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:59 PM
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17. WOW. That was impressive!
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:24 PM
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22. Bookmarking for this alone
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:39 PM
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11. Problem is the Freepers love * for this stuff
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:59 PM
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13. That's because they are cowards who are willing to give up
that which they claim to hold so dear, in order to feel "secure" at Wal-Mart.
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:52 PM
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12. It is astonishing that more people do not recognize
the great harm that this administration has done to the integrity of our democracy and the reputation of this nation around the world.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:02 PM
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14. Get the impeachment process rolling, and get the media behind it....
I don't care what Pelosi or other compromising Democrats are saying right before an election!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:47 PM
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16. Appeasing Fascist Criminals isn't a wise policy.
The Busholini Regime is a Fascist Criminal one and they have announced that they will intensify their War On America.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 05:16 PM
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20. Exactly, compromising with total corruption will make one's self corrupt nt
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 05:00 PM
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18. I think this guy MC'd the rally the other day in LA
If I'm not mistaken...
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 05:13 PM
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19. Geneva Conventions, Bill of Rights, Magna Carta...
at least DUUUHbya isn't violating anything IMPORTANT or LASTING.

Newsprism
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BillORightsMan Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:22 PM
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21. The Impeachment Moment - Are we there yet?
This is a long but worthwile read, where the author boils down many many impeachment "lists", covering topics of interest, like

1. Impeachment for What?
2. What Would It Take for Impeachment to Happen?

At TomDispatch.com

Tomgram: David Swanson, The Impeachment Moment

intro

If you've been around long enough, you've lived through moments -- there were a couple of striking ones in the Vietnam era -- when all the collective, practical wisdom of pundits and policy makers about what is possible in this world seems to fall away and suddenly the previously inconceivable enters the mainstream. The next thing you know, it's a commonplace and everybody is proudly ready to take credit for making it so. That was the case when it came to the issue of the impeachment of Richard Nixon back in 1973. Will it, in the near future, be true again when it comes to George W. Bush (and Dick Cheney)?

In the last years, impeachment has been the all-American solution that could not speak its name in the vicinity of Washington DC or anywhere in the mainstream media, even as support for it grew among Americans generally. But we may be at the edge of a new moment, judging by the ever-unfolding Mark Foley affair, the ensuing turmoil in the Republican Party, the muffling of the presidential voice, the latest polls, and even a threatened reversal in oil prices. So it seems the perfect moment at Tomdispatch for David Swanson, who last wrote about "trophy photos" in Iraq, but has put his prodigious energies into the issue of impeachment, to take up the subject. Tom

Impeachment Anyone?
The Case for Taking the Tape Off Our Mouths

By David Swanson

Never before has the system of government established by the U.S. Constitution been as seriously threatened; never before has the built-in remedy for the sort of threat we face been as badly needed; never before have we had as good an opportunity to use that remedy exactly as it was intended. ...


Plenty to read at the link...

:patriot:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:33 PM
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23. k&r
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:37 PM
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25. k&r
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:45 PM
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26. Fucking Disgusting But True
Sorry forefathers....
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:03 PM
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27. Hello Paraguay !!!
Hope you like Bush
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:45 PM
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28. I'm glad the lawyers see they maybe out of a job soon if
bush Cheney & Congress have their way

these rights are basic rights of habeas corpus
The right of a trial by peers

Bush has taken the fundamental right away from Americans and The Congress helped him

They should be tried too
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MAX 1 Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:52 PM
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29. BOMBSHELLS EXPOSE BUSH
BOMBSHELLS EXPOSE BUSH Pt. I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hZf6SsdUi4
BOMBSHELLS EXPOSE BUSH Pt. II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSnLsl9h6vI

Blood money...
Our soldiers have died to perpetuate the need to decimate other nations so as to "secure" the oil fields.
Our soldiers have died in the perpetuation of a bigger lie. One that says money is far more important.
Our soldiers have died in a perpetual war against a commonly used tactic in war, used to incite FEAR.
Our soldiers have died in the air of pretense that what is being done, is being done out of necessity.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:32 PM
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30. Keepit Rolling!
:dem:
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guyton Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:25 AM
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31. mechanics?
So what's the procedure for making them accountable for war their war crimes? Or have they sufficiently covered their rears that there is no way it'll ever happen?

I mean to ask, after they've been impeached of course.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:17 AM
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32. K & R!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:37 AM
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33. K&R.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:22 AM
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34. wow.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 08:49 AM
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35. k&r
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 09:03 AM
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36. regarding #6 the "indictment" is much weaker than the actual facts
INDICTMENT SAYS:

6) Bush pushed the Military Commissions Act through Congress that unconstitutionally destroys habeas corpus rights for non-US citizens and waters down our obligations under the Geneva Conventions. It also allows Bush to classify both US and non-US citizens as "unlawful enemy combatants" and lock them up indefinitely.


ACTUAL FACTS: It damages or destroys habeas rights not only for US citizens but for all. It does more than "water down" the Geneva Conventions, it puts compliance with those conventions purely in the hands of the administration with a stated goal or belief that they are not bound by them in the "war on terror" because of the presence of no "lawful combatants"
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