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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:15 AM
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Poll question: Barack or Hillary in '08
Assuming it was down to those two.

Who dom you see yourself supporting in a PRIMARY election with the knowledge that your PRIMARY was going to determine the nominee.

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:17 AM
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1. Neither
Al Gore or anybody but Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama-they're two candidates that would surely give the republicans another 4 years to continue on the ruination of this once great republic
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:19 AM
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3. I agree - neither
Al Gore would be my first choice paired with Feingold, Edwards or Clark. Hillary has too much baggage and is a women (I think the US isn't ready for that yet) and Barack doesn't have enough experience - YET but I look for him to run in the future.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:34 AM
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12. Me Three !
Gore/Feingold. :applause:
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:40 AM
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16. I'm right there with you goddess
Gore is my number one...what gets me is how the MSM is trying to pick OUR candidates for '08-they've been doing nothing but showing they do NOT have our best interests at heart-why should we listen to them now?
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:53 AM
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30. The right and the MSM are always setting the terms
and the Dem's follow right along fighting about how the terms have been set or defined instead of calling it bullshit and defining things ourselves. Although it is hard to do because MSM and the right are interchangeable and the media decides what gets air time and what doesn't - damn liberal media!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:18 AM
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2. Get your ass out on the pavement and start door-knocking.
You apparently have lots of time to kill. Sheesh. :eyes:

NGU.


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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:22 AM
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5. Ha
Actually I was dovetailing off another thread about what would happen first a woman apresident or a black president.

And oh BTW. I have registered about 800 voters this year. And will be a poll worker on November 7th. I do my share...but it still is not nearly enough to drive the repukes out of office,
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:41 AM
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18. what the hell does that mean?
you don't know me or what I do or don't do...maybe YOU should step away from the computer and practice what you preach.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:22 AM
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4. You couldn't vote Green in a primary election if you are a Dem
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 08:23 AM by OKNancy
Taking the poll seriously, voting Green or packing my bags is not an option. I realize that those responses are supposed to be clever, but if in reality it was down to those two, I'd probably go for Clinton.
I actually like Obama fine, but she has the money and the name and would probably do better.

In the real world, not DU-land, if it came to those two, I'd make a pragmatic choice.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:24 AM
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9. Well....I meant voting green in November
but point well taken.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:55 AM
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27. Actually, in most of the South, you can vote in any dang
primary you want: you don't have to be registered with a party to vote in a primary.

I voted for that idiot Bob Corker in the Republican primary because I knew the fundies didn't like him and he wasn't the neo-cons first choice either: polls indicated Ford had the best chance against Corker, so hubby and I voted for that imbicile as a tactical maneuver. Ford was unopposed in his primary, so it made no nevermind.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:23 AM
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6. Hillary has more experience
I know her time as first lady doesn't count in a career sense, but it does count in a presidential race.

I like Obama, and I think his time to run will come. He is an amazing speaker and a good family guy to boot. But he is young and relatively new to national politics. If the dem nominee in 2008 doesn't win, then Obama should definitely run in 2012.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:24 AM
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7. Gore/Clark
It's the only way to fly. Hilary has too much baggage, Obama is too unseasoned (for now).

The RW already ripped Gore to shreds when he ran - Gore running again gives the neocons no traction whatsoever. And Wes Clark can handle himself.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:43 AM
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19. That's a damn good ticket kedrys
I like the way you're thinking
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:24 AM
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8. In the primary - neither
If one of them gets the nomination, then I will give my support.
By the way, I HATE these false polls. There are going to be more than two candidates in the primary.
The assumption that it will be down to those two is ridiculous.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:32 AM
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11. Actually, there will come a point when it will be down to two
After the first wave of primaries we will be down to four after Super Tuesday we will wittle down to three. anoither week it will be two...anybody who stays in without a victory at that point is quixotic. Gore, Edwards and Kucinich come to mind.

I am not convinced that either of these two would be in the final two, HRC because while she has money might not have a victory until the mid-March.

My concern about Obama is that he has never really been tested in a political campaign. He is as smooth as they come and seems unflappable. There is mudslinging in a primary, I am just not sure he will not be everyon's punching bag and if he will respond in kind.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:56 AM
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28. After the series of debates, I only see Kerry and Clark. Add Gore IF he runs.
I don't see anyone else with the chops and drive to dominate the debates over Kerry and Clark - or Gore, IF he runs.

Personally, I think Obama is smart enough to know what he DOESN'T know at this point, and won't put himself in that position.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:32 AM
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10. Hillary
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:37 AM
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13. In a PRIMARY? Neither.
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:38 AM
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14. It seems to me that you want to loose big
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:47 AM
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21. Thank you Orrin 73
a Hillary Clinton candidacy is a neo-con's wet dream come true-so is an Obama-I hate that the world is this way in the 21st century but realistically speaking you think Bubba Lunch-box from Arkansas is gonna vote for a black man? Even the most liberal wing of the democratic party isn't THAT naive
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:38 AM
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15. Neither...
I go with Feingold, I like his style and whoever we run must be pure on the Iraq issue. Not sure on Vice yet. President Gore would be one of my contenders for sure! Peace, Kim
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:41 AM
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17. None of the above
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:43 AM
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20. NEITHER: GORE/CLARK 2008!
Get used to hearing it.

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Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:50 AM
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22. Neither
If that is all the choice we would have in 08 I would simply not bother to vote. Obama is good but inexperienced, Hillary is the Repubs choice because they know they could galvanize their base against her and win.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:52 AM
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23. Wes Clark: someone who could flip a red state or two.
We HAVE to do that both to win and to start uniting the county and repairing the divisiveness the Republicans have wrought on the USA.
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keta11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:52 AM
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24. Hey, how about NEITHER????
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:53 AM
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25. Assuming it was down to those two I'd support Obama
but it damn well better not come down to those two.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:53 AM
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26. If it was an only choice between the two... Obama.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:05 AM
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29. Given those choices, Obama
I'm still figuring him out, but I actually watched him on an Oprah my wife had tivoed last night and liked him. But he was speaking on some pretty broad generalities. It's fine to talk about general common values, but when it comes down to brass tacks is he going to just be another DLC'er? So far I've gotten mixed signals, but at least he has a compelling vision and a compelling narrative about the direction America ought to be tending toward. So even if all things were equal and he has some DLC tendencies, I give the nod to Obama over Hillary because he has the "vision thing" and can articulate that vision better than she can. To me Hillary always sounds like she reciting a list of policy changes to a room full of people with broken hearing aids. There's nothing inspirational about it.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:57 AM
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31. it's a week & a day to election day 2006
I have no thoughts beyond that.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:05 AM
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32. It's NEVER "down to those two" ... not in this country. YET.
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 11:06 AM by TahitiNut
I run short of patience with polls that hypothesize an election (either primary or general) and then, in a heavy-handed "Sophie's Choice" style, attempt to impose an authoritarian boundary on what I've always seen as an essential electoral liberty: the write-in vote. "Other" is always an option in a liberal democracy. Besmirching conscience in casting such a liberty as "packing suitcases" or choosing to self-excommunicate is, imho, antithetical to some fundamental tenets of a democracy.

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:24 AM
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33. Neither, please.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:26 AM
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34. Obama? Maybe. Hillary? HELL NO!
I would vote Green or Socialist then if Hillary won the nomination. I have been banging my head against the wall everytime the Democrats nominate somebody who is not going to be a fighter. Hillary Clinton would spell the end of the Democratic Party if she gets nominated.


John
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:26 AM
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35. My dream ticket is Clark/Obama
Clark for the experience and charisma, Obama to excite the "younger generation." I'd like to see someone run before "all the king's men" have made them too jaded.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:43 AM
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36. Clark
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:11 PM
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37. Intersting results
Although I am not sure it is an qaccurate reflection of DU in general. Not much support for HRC that's for sure.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:12 PM
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38. GORE
If he won't run, then EDWARDS.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:15 PM
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39. Need another option: TOO BUSY CONCENTRATING ON NEXT TUESDAY
Get back to me after we've taken back Congress.
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