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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:43 AM
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Does anyone want to fight for change? THE BOXER by Simon & Garfunkel WITH GRAPHICS!
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 04:12 AM by Jeffersons Ghost
As a 'Nam veteran, this one was tough for me to put together, although most of the images were easy to find. I must, for once, disagree with the fine lyrics of this duo, because sometimes after certain "changes" we are NOT "more or less the same." Some changes are permanent.

Here is the link to a live version of the song with a verse not commonly heard. After clicking the link, the MP3 downloads rapidly with cable. There will be a blank window covering this thread after you click the link, which you simply close to view images, while listening to music.
http://www.wingingit.us/music/sotw/boxer/boxer.mp3

THE BOXER
Simon and Garfunkel
written by Paul Simon
released 1968
I am just a poor boy though my story's seldom told



I have squandered my resistance



For a pocket full of mumbles,
such are promises



All lies in jest, still a man hears
what he wants to hear,
and disregards the rest


hmm hmm hmmm



When I left my home and my family,



I was no more than a boy




In the company of strangers In the quiet of the railway station
running scared



Laying low seeking out the poorer quarters,



Where the ragged people go



Looking for the places
only they would know



lay


lay


lay,


lay


lay


lay


lay


lay


lay-


lay


lay-


lay


lay


lay


lay


lay-


lay


lay


lay


lay


lay-


lay


lay


lay


lay.



Asking only workman's wages I come looking for a job,



but I get no offers



Just a come on from the
whores on seventh avenue



I do declare there were times
when I was so lonesome



I took some comfort there



lay


lay


lay,


lay


lay


lay



lay




Now the years are rolling by me,
they are rockin' even me



I am older than I once was,


and younger than I'll be, that's not unusual




No it isn't strange, after changes
upon changes, we are more or less the same



After changes

we are more or less the same ...


lay


lay,


lay


lay


lay


lay,


lay-


lay


lay,


lay-


lay


lay-


lay


lay


lay


lay


lay


lay-


lay


lay


lay


lay.


lay


lay


lay



And I am laying out my winter clothes and wishing I was gone,


Going home



Where the New York City winters aren't bleeding me,



Leading me, going home



In the clearing stands a boxer
and a fighter by her trade



And she carries the reminders



Of every glove that laid her down
or cut her till she cried out


In her anger and their shame,



I am leaving, I am leaving,


But the fighter still remains


yeah, she still remains



lay


lay


lay,


lay


lay


lay


lay


lay


lay-


lay


lay-


lay


lay


lay


lay


lay-


lay


lay


lay


lay


lay-


lay


lay


lay



lay.





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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:41 AM
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1.  after all night on this, I'm beat. the 2 people that rec it must be gone...
without making a comment so, I'll give it a kick and say good night... err, morning, I mean... anyhow, I hope you brought tissue to this little media event. I got pretty broken up creating it.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:50 AM
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2. Very moving and cuts to the heart.
"The Boxer" is one of those songs that will always be "true". It's both pessimistic and optimistic and reflects such great struggle. It could apply to me, to you, and to the universe. You did it justice. Beautifully done.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:31 AM
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9. yes it was alway one of my favorites, thanks zane...
most of all we've got to admire the work and sacrifices of those unamed faces and other patriots like Tammy and John
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:22 AM
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14. P.S. maybe those "faces" didn't die for nothing as long as this OP lives...
maybe they can save more lives, though they lost their own, on both sides of this conflict, with some help from others at DU
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:08 AM
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3. Thank you...that's almost unbearably moving
I looked at it through tears, for more reasons than one. :kick: :patriot: :hippie: :cry:
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:46 AM
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4. Always one of my favorite S+G songs
Bravo again JG. K+R.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:19 AM
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11. i think i know what you mean... please ALWAYS PM me when you post...
an anti-war Opening Post thread here at DU, so that I can help you get it publicized.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:58 AM
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I'm still here, with tears falling for what we have lost and they have done
sorry basturd cocksucking mutherfukers got us in this mess.
K & R
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:34 AM
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10. people like Tammy Duckworth and John Kerry will get us out of it...
and I know why... If you want to see a future war protester, look under a helmut
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:54 AM
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5. K&R
:kick:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:14 PM
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20. thank you for letting these fallen souls live a bit longer... fight for freedom...
a bit longer and protect our values a bit longer... while I try to avoid felling proud... you guys at DU, DO make me feel proud sometimes... I'm proud to be part of your brave efforts today and proud to call many of you friends: THANK YOU ALL
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:58 AM
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6. K&R
Fantastic job...I'm sitting here at work crying.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:03 PM
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22. the price they paid touches ANY human soul...
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 02:04 PM by Jeffersons Ghost
What individual can remain aloof to what they gave... Who can ignore the pain their families feel today... ALL of these faces stopped smiling on Earth, this month, but maybe, just maybe, they still smile at what we do here from beyond life.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:09 AM
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7. Kick nt
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:27 PM
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26. for your help this old U of A grad of a Ghost will say words He's NEVER uttered...
WAR er, um, uh, hang on it's coming to me, but WAIT! IF I KEEP TALKING LIKE THIS THE REPUBLICANS WILL LET ME BECOME PRESIDENT! oh, yea, I nearly forgot:

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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:21 AM
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8. Love the Tammy Duckworth pics
I'm loving her asskicking in a (formerly) red area.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 05:30 PM
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28. she's great isn't she... for our first female president, I'd like to see either...
Tammy or Nancy get the job!
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:30 PM
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33. Shhhhhhh!!!!
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 06:31 PM by YOY
Don't let the Hilary nuts hear you say that! :smoke:

I want to see what results Tammy can bring before I say something along those lines, but I'd not mind seeing it with what she's shown so far.

Pelosi is OK in my book!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:54 PM
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35. LOL, in truth, I just want someone with C-H-A-R-A-C-T-E-R at the helm for a change...
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 06:55 PM by Jeffersons Ghost
Ms. Pelosi is well-endowed with that virtue but you're right Tammy has certainly got a background to build character, although it's too soon to tell. If she can keep her nose clean in that DC den of thieves for half as long as Nancy she's doing well, in my book.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:29 AM
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12. K & R - another amazing job.
I love the Simon & Garfunkel songs, and I've never heard that extra verse. I wish your compilations chould be shown on television in the final days before the election. Is there any way to get them aired on a local station, at least? Either way, excellent work.

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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:27 PM
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31. thanks for ALL the votes and kind remarks... I'm only doing what is right...
really it's not such a great thing to defend peace and freedom. In fact, EVERYONE, should do it, ESPECIALLY those who swore an oath to protect the Constitution and America, like elected officials.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:35 AM
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13. You don't know how much I love that song.
It was my rock during some difficult times.

Good work. Good song.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:32 PM
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49. mine too, thanks
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:49 AM
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15. I am hardened by the years, I do not cry easily.
I say this with tears welling in my eyes as I view these photos and listen to the melody and lyrics of one of the greatest songs ever written.

Jefferson, you have a gift for touching hearts. Cherish that gift, as we on DU cherish you.

For those who want to see the video on YouTube of this remarkable song which transcends generations:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8ibQJH_BFRk

"I am leaving, I am leaving, but the fighter still remains ..."
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:18 PM
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18. thanks for that! as you all view the video remember their faces....
remember what they have given... I used to think the gazillion, trillion or whatever they spent was a cost but paper has no value... ask the families of these faces the REAL cost... did they die for nothing? I pledge, as long as I live that they did not die needlessly... they fought for FREEDOM and it's freedom we must now defend. Please don't forget to comment and vote on this OP, after you see Paul and Art. Don't forget to help Tammy, John and others veterans at the bottom of the OP either. NEVER FORGET!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:31 PM
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19. .
:patriot:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 05:36 PM
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29. I am right there with you....and all toughened yet tender hearts.
,
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:35 PM
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40. I'm listening to and visualizing tomorrows song right now, with tears in my eyes...
get ready DU... get ready Republicans... get ready to restore peace and justice to America.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:51 AM
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16. Breaks my heart.
Hey, lurking NSA turds! Read the OP and see what your fascist turd of a boss, George W Bush has done to America and its citizens, the world and its people.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:53 PM
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47. lurkers are trying to kill my anti-war OPs too, i see by the views to vote ratios
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shanine Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 05:59 PM
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48. kick
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wovenpaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:10 PM
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17. Another K & R....this is very touching
Man, you are on a ROLL!
These just keep on coming, you're doing an amazing job-thank you!
I hope these spread all over the internet-these need to be SEEN-the pictures themselves are worth more than a thousand words-yet you've chosen the accompanying songs brilliantly.

:yourock:
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:18 PM
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21. I've wanted to do a video with these lyrics for a while. One critique...
The lyric is "LIE LA LIE. LIE LA LIE LIE LIE LA LIE." Not LAY LAY LAY LAY LAY.

You missed a golden opportunity to feature pictures of Bush, Rummy, Cheney, et al, spouting their LIE LIE LIES!

Just my humble opinion. Nice job!

.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:22 PM
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27. thank you for constructive criticism...
I realized what the lyrics originally were before I copied, pasted and then altered them... Originally my intent was to do EXACTLY what you suggested. Then, I opened my photo-bucket and saw all those faces staring at me. I put them there for an OP I did last week and their smiles changed my motivation. I first considered altering the words to "die, die, die" but I didn't relish portraying or thinking of them that way. I could also have gone back the the Washington Post site, which honors them, and gotten other faces, instead of recycling what I had, but I could not bear to see other freshly fallen faces. These will remain in my photo-bucket and heart.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:38 PM
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34. Cool
Hey, it's a beautiful tribute. I understand what you were doing...it is awesome.

.
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:07 PM
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23. God protect them all
And God SAVE America

K&R
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:13 PM
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25. EVERYONE who reads THIS S&G thread deserves an outlet for their...
negative emotions and a chance to smile again... if anyone feels hate, read THIS OP, which I THINK is still available for people to recommend but PLEASE DO NOT VOTE FOR IT! It is about to get 4 stars, on the main board. Please don't let that happen. In my humble opinion, Evil, even in fun, should not be above Good on the MAIN page, here at DU. Enjoy this fun thread that will give you a non-human target for harsh feelings and realize a Ghost is allowed a bit of mischief on Halloween.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:53 PM
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24. Hey, that was some beautiful work, I just read that thread...
Brought tears to my eyes. Really beautiful.

If you want to do the same with the "Rich Man's War" song, here are the lyrics:

Jimmy joined the army ‘cause he had no place to go
There ain’t nobody hirin’
‘round here since all the jobs went
down to Mexico
Reckoned that he’d learn himself a trade maybe see the world
Move to the city someday and marry a black haired girl
Somebody somewhere had another plan
Now he’s got a rifle in his hand
Rollin’ into Baghdad wonderin’ how he got this far
Just another poor boy off to fight a rich man’s war

Bobby had an eagle and a flag tattooed on his arm
Red white and blue to the bone when he landed in Kandahar
Left behind a pretty young wife and a baby girl
A stack of overdue bills and went off to save the world
Been a year now and he’s still there
Chasin’ ghosts in the thin dry air
Meanwhile back at home the finance company took his car
Just another poor boy off to fight a rich man’s war

When will we ever learn
When will we ever see
We stand up and take our turn
And keep tellin’ ourselves we’re free

Ali was the second son of a second son
Grew up in Gaza throwing bottles and rocks when the tanks would come
Ain’t nothin’ else to do around here just a game children play
Somethin’ ‘bout livin’ in fear all your life makes you hard that way

He answered when he got the call
Wrapped himself in death and praised Allah
A fat man in a new Mercedes drove him to the door
Just another poor boy off to fight a rich man’s war
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 05:44 PM
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30. A beautiful and very touching piece, JG.
Thank you. K&R
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:28 PM
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32. I gotta stop opening your stuff at work...
I'm crying. That was really fine. Thanks.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:09 PM
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36. sorry about that hon... Let me make it up to you by letting you pick...
My next music/ graphic artist... Would you like more Simon and Garfunkel or shall I branch out on my next MUSICAL DEDICATION TO FRIENDS AND FAMILIES MISSING OUR TROOPS ABROAD and try finding the soulful sounds of Mama Cass Eliot in the early years? (The Mamas & The Pappas)
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:11 PM
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37. That's Cool.
Very well done! And the song went through my head while I was viewing it. Good job! :thumbsup:
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Sacajawea Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:23 PM
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38. Beautiful, just beautiful, JG. Thank you very much for doing this.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:09 PM
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39. thank you I found a beautiful song from long ago for tomorrows piece...
It's a surprise but it reminds me of the Woodstock Festival because not only the singer but also the writer of the song were headliners there. Tomorrow, you are ALL invited to attend Woodstock Online.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:36 PM
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41. Nighttime kick for "The Boxer" Tammy Duckworth.
And for Jefferson's Ghost.

:dem:
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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:02 AM
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42. Kicked...
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:21 AM
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43. from my heart to yours...much love and thank you JG
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:36 AM
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44. That leaves me speechless and...
so angry. The faces of so many fallen for no reason.

Wonderfully well done.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:37 AM
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45. Your muse is working you overtime!
The past few days you have been creating such amazing, moving stuff... Thank you, thank you!

Don't forget to sleep! :hug: Peace...
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:10 PM
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46. when i sleep some people push my work out of sight, like today...
i've obviously got SOME support, let's see how many readers????
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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:39 PM
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50. That is one of the best posts I've ever seen!
I love that song.

Reminds me of my dad.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:06 PM
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51. well check out today's song... you can still vote for it...
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