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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:45 PM
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It is too soon for Obama to run in 2008.
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 11:46 PM by Cascadian
I think there are a lot of people that are soooo desparate for somebody attractive to run in 2008 after several years of the Bush Monkey, that Barack Obama is being touted as this savior or something. I do not blame people for feeling this way. Hell! I feel this way too. Now, so far I do like Obama and have respect for him especially with his stance on Iraq. But, I cannot help but think he is probably not ready to run for President yet. He has only been in the Senate two years. I think he needs more political experience. Maybe in 2016 or 2020. Frankly, I think Al Gore should run again but that's just me.


Anybody feel that Obama is not ready yet?


John
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:48 PM
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1. I agree
He has the potential to be a new JFK or Clinton (he is really someone who the public at-large can vote FOR, and not just to vote against the other candidate), but he doesn't have enough experience yet. He should serve at least one full term in the Senate.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:48 PM
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2. Yes
& I agree with you wholeheartedly about Gore. He would be nearing the halfway point of his second term now if this country hadn't lost its grasp on reality some time ago.

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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:48 PM
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3. He may or may not be ready.
It's pretty much up to him to show the voters one way or the other. In other words, this is a "problem" that will take care of itself.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:50 PM
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4. I see no reason to be negative at this point.
I can see an argument ensuing. I'd like to see who tosses their hats in the race and what they have to say before making a positive or negative comment about people I generally respect.

And, in full disclosure, I did just post this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... , which is a picture of Obama in a thread about black and female chances at the presidency.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:52 PM
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5. There is no argument here.
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 11:53 PM by Cascadian
I am only stating my opinion. If people want Obama in 2008 then great but I still thinks he should at least complete a full term in the Senate to contemplate a run for President that's all.


John
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:54 PM
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6. If the Dems don't want him, then he won't make it out of the primaries
for President.

That's why we have primaries.



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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:56 PM
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7. Remember JFK didn't have a whole lot of experience either. I saw Obama
on Friday in person -- and I do believe he has the right stuff to be president. He particularly struck as a 'grown-up' which I believe the country sorely needs. In fact, I'd like to organize a million grown-ups to march on Washington, send the infantile politicians packing and start some serious problem solving on our many real problems
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:01 AM
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9. Applause for out here in Los Angeles!
:applause: :woohoo:
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:01 AM
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8. I think experience is over-rated.
Kerry and Gore both had loads of experience, but neither got elected.

In 2000, Bush people talked about how it was okay for someone inexperienced to become President as long as he surrounds himself with smart, competent people. They weren't wrong about that; it's just that Bush didn't surround himself with smart, competent people. He surrounded himself with sycophants and has-beens. I believe that Obama would assemble a crack cabinet.

It's not the President who runs things; it's the cabinet. The President is just there to oversee it.
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:03 AM
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10. Especially when handling dangerous reptiles.
...oh, wait.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:09 AM
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12. Oops! Excuse me. Kerry and Gore actually won their elections
It was the Repug BS that kept the rightful winners from assuming office.

But keep in mind, Repugs don't set very high standards for the people they vote for. They just don't. The stupidest, most uninformed, laziest, inarticulate, lawbreakingest, SEC citedest, most Kenny-boy funded, most caught redhanded lyingest b*astard can run and, if he's a Repug, Repugs will vote for him.

A Democrat has to be at least TWICE as good, as moral, as Christian, as smart, as qualified. Fortunately, it isn't all that hard.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:04 AM
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11. He's too DLC for me.
When his votes can match those of Russ Feingold, he might be considerable.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:13 AM
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13. And it's too soon to discuss it now.
Why not revisit this in a couple weeks?
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:18 AM
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14. there is more energy for an Obama run than you might think.
My son has been working on Senate races this year, full time paid positions. I talked to him today and he's suffering some burn out (understandable) and said: "everyone is saying I don't want to do this anymore, this is the end for me. In the next breath they say 'unless Obama runs'".

He did agree that many/most/all of them will be back next year and in 2008 no matter what but he said Obama is what is exciting them. He's trying to position himself to work for Obama and while he planned on going to grad/law school in the fall of 2007, he said if Obama runs, he's not going to school, he's gonna work for Obama. I don't think there is another canidate out there he'd do that for.

Maybe my generation has had its turn. True or not, I can't help but feel my generation thinks "we've fixed exactly what we need to fix to get us through old age". Turn it over to someone who needs to fix problems more long term.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:39 AM
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15. There will be primaries...
...and I hope no crowning prematurely. If he runs in the primary and wins, I'll be working and voting for him. Same for Gore. If someone I don't necessarily care for wins, I'll vote for them nonetheless. But at least at this moment, Gore and Obama are the only potentials mentioned that I could get excited about and who I think could win.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:14 AM
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16. Was it too soon for Edwards?
So, no it's not so early.


On another note, he is also too DLC for me... I don't like some of his statements and positions.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:04 AM
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17. Agreed.. let's see his metal after 2 or 4 terms as a senator first....
We don't need another "newbie" trying to play president.

MZr7
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:06 AM
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18. Lincolns national experience consisted of one term in the House and losing a senate bid
2 years before the presidential election.
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