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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:52 PM
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Bush: Democrats have no idea how to win in Iraq
Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 06:54 PM by kurth
SELLERSBURG, Ind. (AP) -- President Bush, campaigning aggressively ahead of the high-stakes Nov. 7 elections, said Saturday Democrats should not be trusted to control Congress because they have no idea how to win in Iraq...

A new Associated Press-AOL News poll that found likely voters -- angry at Bush and citing Iraq and the economy as their top issues -- overwhelmingly prefer Democrats over Republicans. The poll found voters think Democrats would do a better job on Iraq by a 15-point margin...

''Since 2003, President Bush has laid out nine different plans for victory in Iraq, none of them serious and none of them workable. And most seriously, this incompetence has hindered our ability to fight international terror,'' said the Democratic candidate for Senate in Virginia, Jim Webb. A decorated Vietnam combat veteran whose son is on active duty in Iraq, Webb was selected to speak for his party in delivering the weekly radio response to Bush...

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Bush.html

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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:54 PM
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1. Sometimes that idiot should listen to himself.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:57 PM
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2. First, Bush needs to define "win in Iraq". IMO "win" means withdraw our troops
as quickly as possible while keeping death and destruction to a minimum.

Our military presence only makes the situation worse and prevents the Iraqis from finding a solution to their own political problems.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:11 PM
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11. read this - it's not a joke
Bush Among Friends
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressin...

The president met with "Kuds" and seven other conservative columnists on Wednesday, and declared, among other things, that we had to invade Iraq because they attacked us. "Don't write me down as trying to always put lipstick on the pig," he instructed.
By Greg Mitchell | 10/26/06

---snip---


Kuds: "You said if we leave Iraq they'll come after us --

Bush: "Yes."

Kuds: "We've heard you say that quite specifically. So maybe that's a sign of victory, is that they haven't come here."

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:59 PM
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18. Like Forrest said, "stupid is as stupid does" and man is * STUPID!! n/t
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:58 PM
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3. Like the Repubs do??? Sheesh. His momma did raise a fool.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:01 PM
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6. I'd bet that the housekeeper was more responsible for that tragedy
than Babs. She doesn't look like the nurturing type.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:58 PM
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4. How do you win a war crime?
besides not getting charged for it - that is (and I suppose that's a "win" of sorts - getting away with it and all)

The invasion of Iraq was a crime against the peace...a war crime...under international law

So how do you "win" that?

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:59 PM
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5. Seems pretty obvious that Bush has no idea how to win in Iraq, either.
Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 07:00 PM by ocelot
Not that "winning," whatever that means, is very likely anyhow. How long has this gone on? Didn't we take out Nazi Germany and Japan in about the same amount of time as we've been wallowing in Iraq? So, George, how come *you* haven't managed to "win" yet?
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:02 PM
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7. If what he says is true
Then we are indeed FUCKED!

That asshat and his Gang of Evil would not know DIPLOMACY and INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION, the two things we need to turn this around, if it came up and bit them on the ass!!!!!!

:grr: :grr:
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:02 PM
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8. Pot, meet kettle. My apologies to all pots. Pure projection here.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:06 PM
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9. Three things the neoclowns are good at:
Projection
Blame game
Hypocrisy

Intimidation (extra credit)
Hysteria
Racism
Phobias
Incompetence
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:09 PM
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10. Bush doesn't even know what winning is...
much less how to achieve it

dopey i tell ya
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:15 PM
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12. To me winning is very easy
Declare victory and bring all the troops home and have big parades. Let Iraq take care of Iraq just as it has done for ever. It is after all the cradle of civilization. Been around a lot longer than Bush* or America or England or Europe or the Greeks or the Romans or even Moses and we have the audacity to think we should tell them how to run their country.......
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:06 PM
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23. Agree 100%. No one can win there. No one. So just declare victory and go home.
How pathetic and patronising to think that the greatest losers in the history of American government can tell Iraqis how to run their country.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:20 PM
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13. Later that same day, a Democratic response:
''Since 2003, President Bush has laid out nine different plans for victory in Iraq, none of them serious and none of them workable. And most seriously, this incompetence has hindered our ability to fight international terror,'' said the Democratic candidate for Senate in Virginia, Jim Webb. A decorated Vietnam combat veteran whose son is on active duty in Iraq, Webb was selected to speak for his party in delivering the weekly radio response to Bush.



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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:21 PM
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14. Win what? Electricity or running water?
A day getting dunked? Is that like a slam-dunk, no-brainer? :eyes:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:28 PM
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15. Does he ever listen to himself???
:crazy:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:31 AM
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29. I don't think so and no one else should either, for that matter.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:30 PM
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16. Sorry, George, there's no replaying this lost game. No trophy for you.
Nobody has a plan to "win" in Iraq because the war has already been lost.

There'll be no popping of champagne corks or victory parades. Just more burials of the poor sods who got stuck in a needless "war" that was started so that a half-witted fratboy could pretend he's wearing a XXXL jockstrap and a lot of his pals could make a lot of money.

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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:32 PM
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17. you f**king incompetent piece of dogS**T, it's not a f**king football game
--when I hear the expression "win in Iraq" my head explodes.
How many "touchdowns" does it take to "win"?
the way this assclown is running his war-folly, it will take several lifetimes to "win"--by killing every single solitary human being in the country, I guess--but the imperialist invaders will be repelled long before that, bankrupted and made to look like the incompetent, unconscienable fools that they are. does the dumb@$$ FOOL think the Iraqis are going to "surrender" or something? He has never said what "winning" means and hasn't the foggiest idea himself. oh, yeah, a few years ago he said "mission accomplished"--what was THAT about, anyway? WHAT "mission" was "accomplished"?

what a PIECE OF WORK. When the HELL is this piece of scheist going to The Hague, along with his conspiratorial, evil, criminal greed-head, war-mongering, murdering accomplices?

go eat a pretzel while riding your Segway and choke, dogturd.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:00 PM
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21. He talks about "winning" but cannot tell us what "winning the war" means.
When is the war won? Will the insurgents throw up a white flag and say, "We surrender"?

I doubt it.

Maybe Shrub is planning on killing every single person in Iraq. That seems to be the strategy so far.

Jeezus, he is a fucking asshole. I cannot imagine dealing with this douchebag for two more years.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 07:56 AM
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33. Not just Iraq. Remember, he's mentioned the "caliphate".
He is a psychopath who wants to murder people, and, with his position, never needs stop.
He has the whole world to terrorize.

After all, only a megalomaniac could a.) think of eradicating "terror"; and b.) do so by KILLING.
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 08:58 PM
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19. It's obvious the Bush Admin doesn't have a clue
It's getting worse every day, and Bush has no idea how to handle it. He just knows how to start wars,
getting out or winning is the last thing he knows anything about. Anyway, why does he think someone
else always need to bail him out of something he lied about to start the war in the first place? He's
not making a bit of sense.
Sounds like desperation to me. I'll put my money on any Democrat over that nincompoop.
:dunce: :dunce: :nopity: :nopity:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:00 PM
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20. ....and I suppose Bush does? Give me a break.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:01 PM
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22. Oh Yes We Do.
Step one: Take control away from you.

Step two: KEEP control away from you.
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Marrak Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:10 PM
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24. Back off!
I couldn't find my ass with both hands! for going on 6 years now and I'm still Secretary of Defense!
can you believe it? so just relax!
<>
Back-off
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:10 PM
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25. Bush clear signs of desperation as the Titanic begins to sink...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:18 PM
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26. Do the opposite of the bush adminitration.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:19 PM
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27. Hey Bush - FOAD
Fuck Off And Die :mad:
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 04:37 AM
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28. and ESAD while you're FOADing
. . . eat s**t and die, you F**king son of a f**king dog-b*tch in heat. you are the lowest of the low, a scourge on a pimple on the a**-crack of humanity. I spit on you and your s**t-head, good for NOTHING, lying, murdering soul. May your evil spawn be tormented by fire-ants and scorpions unto the 7th generation of the 7th generation --

or something equally painful :)
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:32 AM
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30. Projection. n/t
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:42 AM
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31. I am so sick of Bush and his BS. He spins, soldiers die.
The war in Iraq is on hold until after the election, with the hope it won't get any worse in the interim. Meanwhile soldiers die.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:47 AM
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32. That's like Cory Lidle telling Chuck Yeager he doesn't know how to fly..
yeah, thanks, Commander Bonehead.

Doesn't "the ranch" need more brush clearing?
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:40 AM
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34. For starters, we'd just listen to our Generals instead of
a bunch of neo-con bed wetters that never served.
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