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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:30 PM
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How 'Bout a Big Round of Applause for
:woohoo: DU'ers CorpGovActivist...and IdesofOctober!!! :woohoo:

Thanks to them (and others, of course) I'm seeing 100s!! and I mean HUNDREDS!! of articles around the world about Halliburton's subsidiary KRB's abuse of federal rules.

NY TIMES: Report Says Iraq Contractor Is Hiding Data From U.S.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/28/world/middleeast/28re...

<snip>

The oversight agency, the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, said KBR had refused to disclose information as basic as how many people are fed each day in its dining facilities and how many gallons of fuel are delivered to foreign embassies in Iraq, claiming that the data was proprietary, meaning it would unfairly help its business competitors.

<snip>

Henry A. Waxman, the California Democrat who is the ranking minority member of the House Committee on Government Reform and was one of the earliest critics of KBRs use of the proprietary label, said the new memo showed how the company had tried to conceal corporate profiteering during wartime.

<snip>

LA TIMES: Report Critical of Iraqi Contractor
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-bri...

HOUSTON CHRONICLE: Audit: KBR hid data on its work in Iraq
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/4293862.ht...

WASHINGTON POST: US finds too many KBR reports proprietary
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

REUTERS: Halliburton's KBR unit hid contract info-US report
http://today.reuters.com/news/articleinvesting.aspx?vie...

much, much more at: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=h...

For some fascinating back story, let me recommend their DU journals:

IdesofOctober: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/IdesOfOctober
CorpGovActivist http://journals.democraticunderground.com/CorpGovActivi...
particularly this one: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/CorpGovActivi...


Way to go, guys! :applause: Thank you so much! :applause:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:30 PM
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1. ..
:applause:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:32 PM
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2. If the GOP retain the House & Senate next term,
this will disappear very quickly, along with another $100,000,000,000 or so.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:35 PM
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4. Hell, if they retain power we'll all start disappearing...
I can't even go there in my head. The thought is too terrifying.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:29 PM
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33. No, I'll Take It to the Courts...
... and to the Halliburton shareholders: http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=smith+d...

This issue is not going away, regardless of the outcome of next Tuesday. Cheney will answer, under oath.

- Dave
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:33 PM
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3. Yeah Baby !!! - K & R !!!
:applause:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:36 PM
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5. K & R here!!!
Excellent work, and kudos to both!!!

:kick:
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:38 PM
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6. wOOt ! K&R'ed
jolly good show chaps :D
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:32 PM
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34. Love That Flag!
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:49 PM
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7. K&R n/t
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:58 PM
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8. I Haven't Kept Up Enough On This. How Did The Two DU'ers Contribute To
those articles? I read a few and they seemed like standard news stories on their own. Did these two DU'ers break the story to them? It sounds exciting, and I'm really curious to learn how our fellow DU'ers took part in this.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:10 PM
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9. I bookmarked a few of the threads
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. It all started, I believe
when CorpGovActivist (aka David Smith) was working for Halliburton. One day, he accidentally received some very interesting e-mails. They were intended for a different David Smith who worked for Halliburton and concerned problems w/ hiding $ from the gov't that the company paid out in Nigeria.

Check out his journal. (see OP)

Both CorpGovActivist and IdesofOctober sound very positive about what they're working on and say they have lots of support.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:29 PM
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14. What I'm Wondering Is Was It That Email That Started The Articles?
Was it because of his receiving that email that the rest of what's being investigated was discovered? I don't see any mention of him or the email in the stories you referenced, so I'm wondering how they are related? The stories seem to have nothing to do with anything anyone on DU did, so that's why I'm asking for what I'm missing.

Would these 100's of stories on google not have existed on their own without the DU'ers mentioned? If they wouldn't have, what is it that those DU'ers did that contributed to those stories existence? How come they aren't being given credit for cracking this issue?
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. from yesterday's thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

CorpGovActivist:
<snip>
As early as late March and early April of this year, I was spending much of my time up on Capitol Hill, sharing information with lawmakers and their staffs about my time at Halliburton. At some point, I will be at liberty to share the e-mails and other communications we exchanged.

<snip>

I expect to see major news stories break about these investigations next week. The work began months and years ago; some lawmakers on Capitol Hill created a safe haven for whistleblowers to come forward. Their stories will be heard - and Cathy Mann, Halliburton's spin doctor, should just resign now.

<snip>


Many more juicy tidbits at link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. From what I understand from reading CorpGovActivist's (aka David Smith)
journal, the investigation had already started, but was at a major standstill UNTIL they got wind of the emails CorpGovActivist (aka David Smith) had. How did they find out about his emails? READ HIS JOURNAL. Have you read his journal? It's INCREDIBLE!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 05:31 PM
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18. It's an amazing story, from start to finish. A movie should be made.
.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. I agree!
I was on the edge of my seat through the entire thing...... so darn fascinating.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:33 PM
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21. Heh - I posted hastily - it's not even close to finish.
But still, the developing story is compelling.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #21
30. Ways to help
from CorpGovActivist's site: http://www.halwhistleblowers.org /

Some Concrete Steps You Can Take to Help:

1. Contact your Member of Congress and your Senators, regardless of their party affiliation. Urge them to speak out in favor of oversight hearings.

2. Contact your favorite local or national media outlet. Urge them to investigate.

3. Educate yourself about the issues. Besides this site, there are several places you can go for more information. These include:

Halliburton Watch http://HalliburtonWatch.org

The Project on Government Oversight http://www.pogo.org

The Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR) http://www.sigir.mil /

4. Monitor Halliburton's SEC filings, as well as the filings being made by KBR. If you're already a Halliburton stockholder, call up Investor Relations and demand to be treated like an owner. Be polite, but insist on answers. If you're not already a Halliburton stockholder, a single share of stock suffices to ensure that you receive important notices, so that you can keep abreast of the goings-on.

5. Donate generously of your time, your talents, and - if you're able - of your money to the groups that are standing up to the current executive management structure at Halliburton. If you wish to donate your time, expertise, or money to this site's operations, please contact the Editor, Mr. David A. Smith, at editor@halwhistleblowers.org .
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #21
40. Ever Watched the Movie, The Insider?
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 12:53 PM by CorpGovActivist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Wigand

He's one of my heroes.

- Dave
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #40
55. The scene where...
... Wigand's children finally understand what he's been doing always chokes me up.

I hope David and Patrick get to make up for all the lost time with their families.

Ides
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #18
39. Morgan Spurlock...
... would be my first choice for director.

We graduated from the same high school. His mom is a riot.

- Dave
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #39
47. Does he do bio-pics? I associate him with documentaries.
.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. I'd Trust Morgan...
... to treat the subject fairly, and with humor. At the very least, I'd want him on the production team.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #17
38. The DOJ Career Attorneys...
... were stymied - and they were being "leaned on" by Bush's political appointees to "wrap things up" on the Halliburton investigations.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:41 PM
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37. Knowing What to Look for...
"Was it because of his receiving that email that the rest of what's being investigated was discovered? I don't see any mention of him or the email in the stories you referenced, so I'm wondering how they are related? The stories seem to have nothing to do with anything anyone on DU did, so that's why I'm asking for what I'm missing."

Imagine you're a Federal prosecutor, or a minority staff attorney, or a minority ranking member of a key investigative committee.

One or more whistleblowers start quietly bringing you "inside" documents, showing what to look for. Pretty helpful, right?

That's what ***MANY*** Halliburton/KBR whistleblowers have done, operating from within the beast.

I worked in the Federal Proposals Group of Halliburton/KBR's Federal Practice. While there, I worked on the proposal responses on such key projects as: LOGCAP III, RIO II, Afghan Embassy rebuild, DTRA CTRIC task order responses, etc.

"Would these 100's of stories on google not have existed on their own without the DU'ers mentioned? If they wouldn't have, what is it that those DU'ers did that contributed to those stories existence? How come they aren't being given credit for cracking this issue?"

As Harry S. Truman (my grandfather's favorite) liked to say: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=amazing+what+y...

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #11
36. That's about the Size of It...
... those darn mis-directed e-mails.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #8
35. I Worked at Halliburton's KBR Federal Practice...
... in Arlington, Virginia from August 2001 (one month before 9/11) until April of 2003 (one month after we invaded Iraq).

During that time, I received mis-directed e-mails intended for David R. Smith, VP of Tax at Halliburton. (I'm David A. Smith.)

I've spent more time on Capitol Hill than I'd wish on my worst enemy.

- Dave
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:11 PM
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10. Hear Hear!! Standing Ovation!
:applause:
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:18 PM
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12. Hear hear!
:kick: :kick:

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:25 PM
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13. K&R for David
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 04:25 PM
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16. Hearty round of applause here.
:yourock: :applause: :applause: :applause: :yourock:
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 05:37 PM
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19. Those "business competitors"
claiming that the data was proprietary, meaning it would unfairly help its business competitors

Duh, I guess they would be the ones competing for no-bid contracts. :wtf: :mad: :argh:
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:51 AM
Response to Reply #19
26. my thoughts exactly....Halliburton has competition???
they got the contracts because they were the only company able to do the job...or did I dream that?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #26
43. It's Called a "Sole Source"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22sole+source%22+...

The FARS (and DFARS), are supposed to govern how Federal contracts are awarded:

http://www.acquisition.gov/far /

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=dfars+federal+...

Again, I can point to specific violations. So can many others.

Waxman literally needs off-site storage for all the evidence.

- Dave
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #43
60. let's hope it is fireproof!
no one wants any of this documentaion to get lost
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #60
62. Any Movement against One Set of the Documents...
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 01:36 PM by CorpGovActivist
... by the Bush Administration, will trigger their release from redundant locations.

These draft dodgers are finally going to be taken out behind the woodshed, like it or not.

- Dave
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G_Leo_Criley Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #62
87. Re: Any Movement against One Set of the Documents...
>>>... by the Bush Administration, will trigger their release from redundant locations.

These draft dodgers are finally going to be taken out behind the woodshed, like it or not.

- Dave<<<


Oh my!

I have to think of David Hackett Fischer's _Paul Revere's Ride, and his explanation of the levels of redundancy built in to the entire Revolutionary effort. Rag tag bunch of country bumpkins indeed! Ha!

Stay safe you two (and all whistle-blowers). You two rock!



glc

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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #87
88. William Dawes and Samuel Prescott ...
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 04:19 PM by CorpGovActivist
... don't get the same PR as Paul Revere:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Dawes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Prescott

If you're ever in Cambridge, MA, you can see the starting point of Dawes' ride (marked by golden horseshoes in the pavement), adjacent to the Cambridge Common (where George Washington took command of the American forces): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Common

I had a chance to take some family and friends on a tour last week, while up for the Head of the Charles. That's the fun stuff most people miss!

: )

"I have to think of David Hackett Fischer's _Paul Revere's Ride, and his explanation of the levels of redundancy built in to the entire Revolutionary effort. Rag tag bunch of country bumpkins indeed! Ha!"

It is no accident that Dr. Joseph Warren is so prominently featured here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=joseph+warren+...

He may have died early and tragically (at Bunker Hill), but the redundant rides he organized turned the tide of history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Warren

My partner and I lived on Bunker Hill (or was that Breed's Hill?) for a few years.

- Dave
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #43
86. Here's an area...
... where close race candidates could really tap into.

David is a font of knowledge on this stuff. It's arcane at first blush, but it's the nitty gritty of the fraud that has been perpetrated.

Ides
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #86
92. Waxman's Staff...
... gets it. So do some other Hill staffs/lawmakers.

The trick is putting those gavels in the hands of those who can now do something about it.

Nine days.

- Dave
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #92
95. my cynical spouse
hasn't seen anything on TV. He doesn't think the fireworks will be shooting off in time for enough people to talk about this and be able to go vote out those scoundrels.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #95
96. The Foley Fadeout...
... ever seen the internal polls on how many voters only begin to tune in the final week?

: )

Not all voters are afflicted with public policy fever.

; )

- Dave
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #96
107. Saddam's verdit to be announced Nov 5
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #107
109. Please to remember...
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 07:42 PM by IdesOfOctober
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Day

... the Fifth of November
Gunpowder, Treason, and Plot.
I see no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.

Inauspicious timing. KKKarl must be losing his touch.

Ides

P.S. The BBC will be all over this.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #109
111. Bonfire night!
Bonfire Night, Fireworks Night and Plot Night, is an annual celebration on the evening of the 5th of November.

The celebrations, which in the United Kingdom take place in towns and villages across the country, involve fireworks displays and the building of bonfires, traditionally on which "guys", or dummies, representing Guy Fawkes, the most famous of the conspirators are burnt.

Following a severe interrogation involving the use of torture, and a trial in Westminster Hall by Judge John Popham, Fawkes and his conspirators were executed for treason and attempted murder.
*************


WOW, this is soooo appropriate!
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #111
112. It is indeed appropriate...
... and the UK troops in Iraq will pick up on it, too.

Tony Blair may - if he thinks about it - ask for a postponement. The BBC will have a field day.

Ides
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #111
113. Our own bonfire night...
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #19
41. The Code of Federal Regulations Provisions that Halliburton/KBR Flouted...
... on a routine, sytematic, systemic basis, included:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?sid=56e0b...

I can point to specific provisions, but here is the full CFR, online:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&tp...

- Dave
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:28 PM
Response to Original message
22. A big K & R for this one!!!!
for two very interesting patriots!!

:yourock:
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #22
44. LauraB...Truly, Many Thanks...
... for all your kind words.

- Dave
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:40 PM
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23. The rupture approacheth.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #23
29. I love that twist - - I hope it spreads on "the Google"
heh
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #29
45. KKKarl - Got by The Google
An epitaph?

- Dave
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:10 PM
Response to Original message
24. K&R
:kick:

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Truthy Nessy Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 05:18 AM
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25. This thread and the links on it make me think of Nov 5th
Folks,
I am sure most of you know that November 5th is Guy Fawkes Day.

Get out your DVD or rent "V IS FOR VENDETTA".

This movie surely fits the message for this link. It shows a parallel to what is really happening in the USA presently and what a comment on this thread shows Thomas Paine said.

As a retiree fraud analyst I am so engrossed in all the threads that Ides of October and GovCorpActivist have on DU this past month.

I have hope for the Republic of America. But you know that old saying "hope for the best but plan for the worst" and it will be hard to acknowledge the worst if what we all hope for does not happen. I have been disappointed so much in the past 6 years.

November 7th is the test. If we win I think of lot of repugs will be moving to Paraguay. If we lose I don't know what you all will do. I have already exited the USA but still their poison can flow my way. I'm hoping for a victory for all of us DU members. Long live Freedom and Justice for All.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #25
27. Remember, remember, the 5th of November.....
I've been watching that movie all weekend. It's a brilliant movie and very suggestive of what's going on today.

Let's hope Novemeber 7th is the beginning of the end for "High Chancellor Bush".

Or should I say "High Chancellor Cheney" and his spokespuppet.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #27
50. Gunpowder, Treason, and Plot
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gunpowder+treason+...

KKKarl fancies himself Guy Fawkes. Not this time.

- Dave
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:58 AM
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28. I went to CorpGovActivist's journal yesterday.
Thank goodness an astute person with integrity was on the receiving end of the identity mix-up.

:applause:
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #28
51. As My Grandmother Likes to Remind Us All...
... "the Lord works in mysterious ways."

; )

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:21 PM
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31. Thank you...
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 12:24 PM by CorpGovActivist
... I wept when I read this. LauraB pointed it out to me.

I want to make sure that there is no mistake: there are ***MANY*** Halliburton whistleblowers who have worked with Waxman's staff (and others').

I printed this out for my mom. Next time she asks me, "How's work?" I'll have something to trade her for a pot of those chicken 'n dumplins.

: )

- Dave

P.S. There are a bunch of friends and family members who deserve credit, too. More on that as soon as there is a newly-elected Democratic majority next week!
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #31
117. Oh....
That makes me very happy.

Big thanks to your mom and Patrick too!

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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #117
118. You Bet!
I am extraordinarily lucky to have been blessed with the family and friends I have.

- Dave
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:27 PM
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32. I don't think David would mind...
... if I mentioned that his partner of more than 12 years, Patrick, has been a constant source of strength, inspiration, and comic relief.

Thank you, Tuesday_Morning. Next Wednesday morning, we'll have plenty to celebrate!

Ides
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #32
52. Patrick Has Also...
... been hard at work - for many years - on another spoke of the BushCo. "hub and spoke" racketeeering machine:

http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=jorstad...

http://www.shareholdersonline.org /

I got myself arrested at the State Street Annual Meeting this year - on the orders of Andy Card's high school chum - for daring to ask questions:

http://www.shareholdersonline.org/pdf/HaveYouSeenThisMa...

http://www.shareholdersonline.org/pdf/questions%20for%2...

- Dave
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #32
53. A round of applause for you, too, Ides.
:applause:
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #53
54. He Likes Whisky Better...
... LOL.

- Dave
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #54
56. Most of us do.
:7
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #53
58. David Is a True...
... INTJ, as I mentioned in another thread. Although the description makes me laugh every time I read it, I am dead serious when I say that it suits David to a "T":

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=intj

The whole thing fits, but some parts really make me stand up and take notice, knowing David: INTJs "tend to be scrupulous and even-handed about recognizing the individual contributions that have gone into a project, and have a gift for seizing opportunities which others might not even notice."

Famous INTJs:
Dan Aykroyd (The Blues Brothers)
Susan B. Anthony
Arthur Ashe, tennis champion
Augustus Caesar (Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus)
Jane Austen (Pride and Prejudice)
William J. Bennett, "drug czar"
William F. Buckley, Jr.
Raymond Burr (Perry Mason, Ironsides)
Chevy Chase (Cornelius Crane) (Fletch)
Phil Donahue
Michael Dukakis, governor of Mass., 1988 U.S. Dem. pres. candidate
Greg Gumbel, television sportscaster
Hannibal, Carthaginian military leader
Veronica Hamel (Hill Street Blues)
Angela Lansbury (Murder, She Wrote)
Orel Leonard Hershiser, IV
Peter Jennings
Charles Everett Koop
Ivan Lendl
C. S. Lewis (The Chronicles of Narnia)
Joan Lunden
Edwin Moses, U.S. olympian (hurdles)
Martina Navratilova
Charles Rangel, U. S. Representative, D-N.Y.
Pernell Roberts (Bonanza)
Arnold Schwarzenegger, Governor of California
Josephine Tey (Elizabeth Mackintosh), mystery writer (Brat Farrar)
Rudy Giuliani, former New York City mayor
Donald Rumsfeld, US Secretary of Defense
General Colin Powell, US Secretary of State
Lance Armstrong
Richard Gere (Pretty Woman)
Katie Couric


U.S. Presidents:
Chester A. Arthur
Calvin Coolidge
***Thomas Jefferson***
***John F. Kennedy***
James K. Polk
***Woodrow Wilson***
Fictional:
Cassius (Julius Caesar)
Mr. Darcy (Pride and Prejudice)
***Gandalf the Grey (J. R. R. Tolkein's Middle Earth books)***
Hannibal Lecter (Silence of the Lambs)
Professor Moriarty, Sherlock Holmes' nemesis
Ensign Ro (Star Trek--the Next Generation)
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern (Hamlet)
George Smiley, John le Carre's master spy
Clarice Starling (Silence of the Lambs)
*******************************************************

Applause for David, and for those he deems worthy to share in the credit (trust me, he'll be scrupulous about saying who had a hand in the whole thing).

Whisky, as he says, for me.

Ides
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #58
64. Ides...
"... and for those he deems worthy to share in the credit (trust me, he'll be scrupulous about saying who had a hand in the whole thing)."

Ides.

"Whisky, as he says, for me."

Not yet. There are 9 days of work left. (Well, maybe one.)

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=great+kid++get+cocky+...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=you...

; )

- Dave
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #58
65. He had me at Jonathan Winer.
Winer is THEE MAN for those of us who side with the Anti-corruption, Open Government wing of the Democratic party.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #65
66. Mr. Winer is an Unsung Hero...
... and a fine gentleman.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #58
67. And Ides Is an...
... (deleted; not suitable for General Audiences).

If I had to guess, Ides is an:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=ent...

Since you're so intent on sharing...

; )

Bugs Bunny is on your list, assuming I'm right. So is Mercutio, Chandler on Friends, and Teddy Roosevelt. I absolutely knew I was right when I saw Celine Dion on your list. Admit it: you have at least one of her CDs. You're among friends. Go ahead. Tell us how she speaks to your inner torch song crooner.

- Dave

P.S. The I is always just one or two tick marks in. Once, when I had to take it, it came up as XNTJ - dead center on I vs. E. Sherlock Holmes was supposedly an XNTJ, so I can live with that. Definitely NOT an ENTJ (they scare the crap out of me): http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=ent...
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #67
71. I have not yet begun...
... to share:

"Since you're so intent on sharing..."

Hmmmmmm... scanner. Pictures of Halloween, senior year at Harvard.

Itchy scanner finger.

Ides
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #71
72. MAD and Other Game Theory You Must Have Forgotten...
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 02:28 PM by CorpGovActivist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_Assured_Destruction

I assure you, my arsenal is equally well-stocked.

LOL.

- Dave

P.S. To anticipate the obvious: no, I will not disavow first strike. All options, and all that. ROTFLMAO.
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #72
83. Ah, but what if I have developed...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiati...

Or, what if I just take the approach of Alexander Hamilton or the Duke of Wellington?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22publish%2C+...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=alexander+hamilton...

"Publish, and be damned!"

I could always trot out Shrubya's excuse: "youthful indiscretion," or "that happened before I found" Buddha.

: )

Ides
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:15 PM
Response to Reply #67
102. My typelogic type...
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #58
73. Very interesting.
I took the test and I'm an INTP. :)

Looks like I'm in good company:

Socrates
Rene Descartes
Blaise Pascal
Sir Isaac Newton

U.S. Presidents:
James Madison
John Quincy Adams
John Tyler
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Gerald Ford


William Harvey (pioneer in human physiology)
C. G. Jung
William James
Albert Einstein
Henri Mancini

Thanks, Ides. :hi:


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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #73
75. Oh God! Don't Play RISK with Ides!
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 03:03 PM by CorpGovActivist
He cheats!

- Dave

P.S. Plus, he has the maddening knack for figuring out other players' favored strategies, and devoting himself to ruining it - even at the cost of the game. Don't even try for Australia at the outset of the game.
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #75
77. Vile Lies!
"He cheats!"

I do no such thing. I capitalize on my foes' inattentiveness to the board. It's a long game. People should pay attention.

"Plus, he has the maddening knack for figuring out other players' favored strategies, and devoting himself to ruining it - even at the cost of the game."

Ah, but they try new ones then, don't they? Who wants to play the same old game over and over?

"Don't even try for Australia at the outset of the game."

A foolhardy course, to be sure.

I bet I'd kick KKKarl's ass at it, too.

Ides
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #77
79. Stop it, both of you, or I'll send you to your respective rooms!
:rofl:
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #79
81. I can keep myself occupied...
... do your worst!

Ides
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #81
89. It's clear to me from your responses ...
You are the troublemaker of the two. ;)
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #89
90. Oh, puh-leeze!
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 04:24 PM by IdesOfOctober
David is the living, breathing Phineas!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=a+separate+peace+p...

Don't let him fool you!!!

Ides

P.S. Indeed, I point out that the author of A Separate Peace and David have something very notable in common: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Knowles
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #89
91. You Pegged It!
"The devil made me do it"?

Try, "Ides made me do it."

; )

- Dave
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #91
93. I calls 'em as I see 'em.
Even now, Ides seeks to blame you for his nefarious proclivities. Pray tell, how do you bear it? :D


And if I don't get back to work, I'll be laboring in front of this computer until midnight. :hi:
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #93
97. Good Call, Ump!
; )

- Dave
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #89
94. Straight Shooter, I ask you...
... is this the picture of a troublemaker, or not?

http://patrickj.smugmug.com/gallery/12083/4/396223

When he realized he'd made Disney passersby laugh: http://patrickj.smugmug.com/gallery/12083/4/396224

How deep ARE those dimples, anyway? http://patrickj.smugmug.com/gallery/12083/2/396202

http://patrickj.smugmug.com/gallery/12075/1/395685

http://patrickj.smugmug.com/gallery/12075/1/395689

http://patrickj.smugmug.com/gallery/14358/2/492281

Even on vacation, he never misses his news fix: http://patrickj.smugmug.com/gallery/14358/10/492747

Does Patrick realize these are up? Busted, Dave! Such a ham! http://patrickj.smugmug.com/gallery/14358/11

Nose in a book: http://patrickj.smugmug.com/gallery/14358/18/493471

A little walk, a little talk (with Mom along the beach?) http://patrickj.smugmug.com/gallery/12090/3/489626

Now, Straight Shooter, I ask you: don't those look like the mug shots of a bona fide troublemaker to you?

Those don't even include the "college cache" - which *could* still find its way out there.

Ides
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #94
98. I just had to come back to DU one more time ...
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 05:28 PM by Straight Shooter
Is that the face of a troublemaker? It ain't the face of a saint, that's for sure.

People with dimples are always getting other people in trouble. Always. Never trust someone with dimples. Mischievous little imps, the dimpled ones are. Started getting away with things when they were adorable little kids and never stopped using those dimples as weapons against their opponents, as irresistable lures to entice the unsuspecting into all sorts of activities one would never think of engaging in otherwise.

Showing me your dimples as if to prove your innocence, when in fact it only adds to the weight of the evidence against you.

Troublemaker.

:rofl:
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #98
99. Oh, no...
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 05:44 PM by IdesOfOctober
... you misunderstand.

Those pictures are of David, and I wholeheartedly endorse your indictment of his dimples!

Ides

P.S. A friend's grandfather liked to say that, "By the time you're 30, you have the face you deserve." The laugh lines tell the story.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #99
103. The pictures are of David, eh?
Then I must solemnly proclaim that the exception proves the rule.

Gavel down. You're still the troublemaker.

Heh. ;)
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #103
104. I was robbed!
*gasp*

That, sir, is a logical fallacy, if ever there were one!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacy

Damn those dimples!

Ides
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #103
105. You silly, silly INTPs


Ides
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:10 AM
Response to Reply #103
116. Finally, the truth comes out...
... David made a full confession in another thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

HA!

Ides
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #98
100. ROTFLMAO...
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 06:06 PM by IdesOfOctober
:rofl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimples#Living :rofl:

Well, there's the list of actors who can portray David. (God, he's going to kill me. So worth it; I'll be laughing so hard when I get there, St. Peter will just wave me on through.)

Ides
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #100
106. Sans dimples, I thought Ben Affleck would be a reasonable actor to play David.
When, oh when, are you going to concede, Ides? :D
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #106
108. Want to see him blush bright red?
When his close friends have teased him about who he wants to play him, he invariably turns a glow-in-the-dark red, and gets completely tongue tied - growing suddenly very interested in his plate of food, or his beer.

Contenders have included (in no particular order):

1. Jake Gyllenhaal

2. Ethan Hawke

3. Heath Ledger (causing David to blush even brighter, if possible, LOL)

4. Leonardo DiCaprio (causing David to roll his eyes and get up from the table, at least once)

Ben Affleck would be a good choice, too. I'm sure they can digitize the dimples, anyway, nowadays.

"It is possible to have one or both cheeks surgically modified to create a dimple. This can cost around $500 per cheek."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimples

(Amazing what people will do to themselves, huh?)

The other thing the actor would have to have: brown eyes (very dark), twinkling full of mischief and full of compassion.

I have a personal favorite on that list, based on the actor's portrayal of another character that I think had similar growth to David's. I think that actor's mastery of that particular role would lend itself well to understanding how David has grown, and the path he took. That's a serious end to a message that is probably going to get me excommunicated.

Ides

P.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Hawke (His portrayals of the protagonists in Gattaca and Dead Poets' Society would bode well for his grasp of the character here, in my opinion.)
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #108
110. Heath Ledger.
Nobody plays a role finer than Heath. He is, IMHO, simply one of the finest actors to ever grace the silver screen.

Leonardo? I would roll my eyes and gag.

But I see a resemblance between Affleck and David, a fleeting resemblance, but it's there.

Methinks we've hijacked this thread. My first time ever to do that. I'm so ashamed. :blush: Heh.

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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #110
114. Reeling in the tangents...
"Methinks we've hijacked this thread."

I wonder what the close friends of the real life Dr. Wigand thought of the choice of Russell Crowe to portray him?

http://www.jeffreywigand.com/insider /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Crowe

Or, I wonder what the close friends of Erin Brockovich thought of the choice of Julia Roberts to portray her?

http://www.brockovich.com /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich

It may be a bit premature to be casting, but I am 100% in earnest when I say - someone *should* make this film; it's an incredible story.

Ides
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:14 AM
Response to Reply #114
115. Onward...
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #73
80. You're very welcome...
... Einstein.

Ides
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #73
101. Supposedly...
... INTJs are the rarest type (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=intj+%22rarest+typ... ), though some (e.g., INTPs, such as your type) dispute that.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=intp+%22rarest...

Ides
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:01 PM
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42. K/R
:yourock:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:03 PM
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46. Wow! Here's a kick.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:07 PM
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48. I love those guys!!!
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:28 PM
Response to Original message
57.  a big round of applause!
:toast:

a toast to you both!
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #57
59. What're we drinkin'?
You said the magic words!

Ides
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #59
61. Beer for me!
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 01:37 PM by DemReadingDU
I had a bad experience with whiskey in college

Wine is okay too!

edit: you and Dave choose, we buy!

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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #61
63. Oh, Ides, the Horror!
I bet we could rehab DRDU. Prolly got hold of swill.

; )

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #59
68. You're Cut off...
... get back to work.

There are 9 days left, and some of the close races need all the help that they can get.

- Dave
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 02:04 PM
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69. Big Party on Wed Nov 8!
:party:

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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 02:09 PM
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70. Beginning When the Polls Close on November 7th...
... I take the Wednesday after any election off - long habit.

: )

Good for watching late returns, and nursing any hangovers.

- Dave
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #68
85. But, but...
... the work I'm doing right now, at this precise moment, would benefit from one of the Oktoberfests I've got handy!

Ides
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:00 PM
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74. Y'all rock, thanks so much, thanks for posting Tuesday_Morning
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 03:02 PM by Uncle Joe
Kicked and recommended

:kick:

P.S. On edit too late to recommend
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #74
78. I could be flip, and say,
"Ain't no thing."

But that would cheapen what David and the other whistleblowers have been through (their families, too).

Thank you.

Ides
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #78
82. You are correct,
that was flip, please accept my apologies. I do appreciate everything that has been done to save our democracy from the fascists in power. I have no doubt there was nothing easy about it. :patriot:
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:25 PM
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84. No, no, you have nothing to apologize for...
... I was tempted to answer flippantly - but then I realized that to do so would cheapen the sacrifices that the whistleblowers have made.

I'm sorry. My bad.

Ides
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 03:05 PM
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76. Yeah! Grreat! Thank
you both for outstanding activism on behalf of our country. :patriot: :patriot:
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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #76
119. Where the bloody hell
did this thread come from?
Yeah!!!
I've got to run to BB practice fer Cameron...
will read and check in soon as I get back.

3 Cheers fer the Hardy Boys!!!
hip hip horay
hip hip horay
hip hip horay!!!!
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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:44 PM
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120. All Right...
I'm confused...who is the cute fella wit the dimples...David
is that you? Cutie pie ye are...but yer too skinny...neeps an` tatties
on yer diet...
Ides...a troublemaker...nay...cannae believe...
wee bit cheeky perhaps...I see the twinkle in yer eye, laddie...

Have ye seen GunPowder, Treason & Plot wit Robert Carlyle?
Now that is an actor...
:-)
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:56 PM
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122. The "Bedimpled Wunderkind" is ...
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 04:58 PM by IdesOfOctober
... David.

"Cutie pie ye are...but yer too skinny...neeps an` tatties
on yer diet..."

Aye, we all try to fatten 'im up. Eats like it's going out of style, barely gains an ounce!

That's due, in no small part, to his having Crohn's: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=crohn%27s+pain...

"Ides...a troublemaker...nay...cannae believe..."

My halo is held firmly in place by my horns.

; )

"wee bit cheeky perhaps...I see the twinkle in yer eye, laddie..."

Kindness, compassion, and fire - honest to God, and all tomfoolery aside, he's got eyes of an old soul, that David does.

"Have ye seen GunPowder, Treason & Plot wit Robert Carlyle?
Now that is an actor..."

That's one I've missed. I'll add it to the list: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377184 /

Ides
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:47 PM
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121. k&r
:applause:
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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:54 AM
Response to Reply #121
123. Good Morning
And what will today bring us? :-)
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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:18 PM
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124. Bump
up
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:05 AM
Response to Reply #124
125. Set...
... I think we may see hundreds more of those articles soon.

Ides
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