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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:22 PM
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How do we shut down the right wing think tanks?
AEI (American Enterprise Institute) should be the first to go; they are powerful, shadowy, right-wing to a fault, dangerous and have far too much control over OUR country and its policies. (It's amazing how much bad politics can emanate from such a small cabal.)

When did the US become the lapdog for AEI member agendas? For a "think tank" not many of their thoughts are worth a damn.

The Heritage Foundation, followed by the nests of Norquist, Reed, and the other usual "con" suspects should be investigated, shunned and ultimately rendered impotent.

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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:23 PM
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1. Abolish the first amendment?
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:33 PM
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10. OK, let me rephrase my question
How do we limit the POWER the think tanks have over our government?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:24 PM
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2. we shut them down, they shut us down. I don't like what they do
but shutting them down is the same as book burning imo.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:36 PM
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12. They have already shut us down
When was the last time you saw a Progressive anywhere on network or cable news, or saw anyone using Progressive ideas? When they infrequently want an opinion other than right wing, they look to the corporate DLC Democrat. Even if the Democratic party gets the majority next week, Progressive viewpoints will still not have a seat at the table.

So yes, shut down some of the right wing think tanks. There are a hundred or two of them out there right now. Shutting down a few will even out the playing field a little bit.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:38 PM
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13. The Center for American Progress comes to mind
Though their people are not in the MSM nearly as much as AEI or Heritage.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:25 PM
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3. Use my Plan D
Debunk - Use stories from Media Matters for America, ConWebWatch, and other groups that are dedicated to refuting the Spin of the Right. - Further application (specifics) - Read a story from MMFA, CWW, FAIR, etc. and then spread this story around. Put in on a message board, send an e-mail with it and forward it to your RW Friends.

Decapitate - Investigate the doings of groups, and focus on the Leader. If and when you find something spread it around and start a petition demanding the Leader's Resignation.

Defund - There are many ways you can defund a group. A boycott of Coors, telling people to sell their Diebold, Sinclair Broadcasting, etc. Stocks. You can also think of other ways to defund a group. - Further application - If a group is tax exempt, you should do an investigation into the Group's activities, and see if you can spot any illegal activities. You should then contact the FEC to deal with the Group.

Destroy - When you find something, don't let go. Be like a tenacious pit bull and ride it out.

Dezone - The simplest thing a person can do. Put an Anti-RW sticker on your car, wear a political shirt, do something that says you are against the Far Right.

Discord - Put Homophobic Groups against Coors and the groups that they fund. Put Anti-Choice Groups against Scaife and the groups that they fund.

Disdain - Instead of name calling when a RW'er says something stupid and/or evil. This is what you should do: First, say that the RW'er should be ashamed for what he/she said and then apologize and offer support for the person(s) or group that the RW'er was talking about.

Disorganize - Investigate the doings of groups, and focus on a member. If and when you find something spread it around and start a petition demanding that member's Resignation. - Like Decapitate, but focused on the lower members of a RW Group.

Disrupt - Protest! But, it is bigger than that. Picket RW Organizations, ask questions to RW Organizations that they can not answer. You can also think of other things, just remember to keep it as civil as possible.

Dissolve - This is a continuation of Destroy. Keep going at it, keep until the group is just a shadow of it's former self, or until it is bankrupt. When you spot 1 scandal, don't stop there, keep going.

Distrust - Comment on the Liberalism or how moderate RW Leaders are to your RW Friends.

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Pl...
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:27 PM
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4. Just shine the bright light of reason and humanity on them.
We cannot deny freedom of speech to them, but we can elect individuals who will not be bought off by the same special interests which fund these right wing think tanks.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:28 PM
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7. Better, shine a bright light on the lobbies that fund them
Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 02:33 PM by ShockediSay
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:47 PM
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16. Read about Laurie Mylroie of the AEI:
http://uruknet.biz/?p=m27797&hd=0&size=1&l=e

"The debate over who was most responsible for convincing the nation that there was a link between Saddam and 9/11 will probably continue for years but an important piece of the puzzle can be found by zeroing in on a woman by the name of Laurie Mylroie, a person most people have never heard of.

Mylroie had been pushing for an all-out war against Iraq for a decade and in the run-up to the first Gulf war, she, along with the since fired New York Times reporter, Judith Miller, wrote a book titled, "Saddam Hussein and the Crisis in the Gulf."

Mylroie was enmeshed in the Iraq war obsession which originated at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think-tank that served as a home base for the many neocons rendered powerless during the Clinton years, such as Richard Perle, who became chairman of the Defense Policy Board under Bush, and Paul Wolfowitz, who moved into the number-2 position at the Pentagon when Bush took office, along with Newt Gingrich and John Bolton, to name a few others.

In the year 2000, at a time when Dick Cheney sat on AEI's board, the group's publishing arm published a book written by Mylroie, with the help of many neocons, titled, "A Study in Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished War Against America."

more at link, interesting, scary...

Mylroie is a dangerous obfuscator. I read the book mentioned in this article (which supposedly proved Hussein was behind the first WTC bombing, etc.) and came out thoroughly UNCONVINCED.

Now if a layperson can't be convinced, how the hell did the whole of PNAC and the admin get tricked? The answer is they didn't. The book was written as an excuse to invade. It is published by the AEI publishing arm and is nothing but dangerous right wing propaganda.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:28 PM
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5. Tax the trust funds.
Nobody should be so rich that all they have left to buy is their government.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:28 PM
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6. Force the assholes to spend money on other projects.
It's just about the only way.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:32 PM
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8. We shouldn't shut them down, just expose them for what they are
And hold the lame assed, greedy corporate media accountable when they use phony eggheads from AEI and The Heritage Foundation as "policy go to people" on round table discussion shows.

Expose the conservative phony eggheads for what they are. Whores with PhDs. They're whoring themselves to these institutions for the money to do their "research". As an MA student in US History, I'm sickened by the so-called historians who have whored themselves to AEI (Professor David Hackett Fischer, you have a call on the white courtesy phone).

AEI eggheads are WHORES.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:32 PM
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9. Use the federal tax law against them
Here's a dirty little secret: these right wing think tanks are non-profit organizations according to the tax code. Non-profit organizations are not supposed to be involved in partisan politics, but they have been for decades with impunity. We can sic the IRS on the AEI, the Heritage Foundation, and related RWTT's, in order to blackball them and leave'em powerless in the process, unless they want to pay their taxes--including back taxes, interest, and penalties.

BTA. God forbid there should be a loophole in the tax law protecting those crooked "non-profit" organizations which are little more than front operations for the GOP.

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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:35 PM
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11. This response deserves its own thread
If I could I would definately K&R this.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:41 PM
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14. There are good loopholes
when looking at the GOP and tax exempt religious organizations some serious examination was done of tax exempt violations. The procedures were outlined in this diary:

http://scoop.epluribusmedia.org/story/2006/9/21/133137/...

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:19 PM
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18. Read their publications.
They don't take a public stand on people running for election. That makes them non-partisan. That's the "think" part of "think tank"; they discuss policy options, run scenarios, do research--it may be pro-conservative or pro-liberal, but that's not how the tax code reads. Nor should it be how the tax code reads.

Issues ... as long as their issues are tied closely to an election so that "vote for Proposition 239" is equivalent to "vote for Mehitabel Vladimirovich Fogsnabbler y Saavedra" they can discuss issues. As can liberal think tanks, as can universities, as can churches an mosques and all sorts of other groups.

I dislike the idea of shutting up people in the name of free speech; I will only go for shutting up people when they're directly fomenting violence that isn't subject to legislative and judicial oversight.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:23 PM
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20. What about countering overwhelming propaganda power?
Why do you think we're at war? Because the left (no matter what liberal MSM myths are perpetrated) do not control the propaganda machine.

How do we demand a steady flow of balanced opinion and ideas in a tornado of right wing ideas?



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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 04:15 PM
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22. The answer to speech we don't like is speech.
Countering what the RW think tanks say is good. Various wealthy dems have helped endow left-leaning think-tanks for precisely that purpose.

Hauling out every means possible, from picketing to investigating to altering the laws to prevent one political group from speaking ... sounds like stuff I've read about in history books (and sometimes newspapers). I don't like it. No, siree, not one bit.
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Red Right and BLUE Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:43 PM
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15. Make publicly-funded elections a top priority.
These think tanks are nothing but lobbyist groups. We don't need lobbyists to tell us what's good for us.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:48 PM
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17. You Don't Shut Them Down, You Discredit Them, And They Fall Under Their Own Weight !!!
No censorship, just a walking away.

As it should be.

:shrug:

Watch the final scene of the movie 'Tweleve Angry Men' if ya want a great example of the walking away.

:hi:

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:21 PM
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19. They should require peer review for a "think tank" which...
...people can make tax-deductible donations to.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:32 PM
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21. We shouldn't. Destruction of free speech and freedom of association
is not the answer. We need to put a stop to the excessive influence these groups have over our country, and hold them accountable financially. Then we need to establish groups like that of our own.
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