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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:14 AM
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What's the Difference Between a Secret Service Agent & the FBI & CIA?

no, this is not a set up for a joke.

i'm just wondering.....

fbi is federal
cia is out of country?
secret service is??
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:17 AM
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1. They're Feds...
http://www.secretservice.gov/mission.shtml

"The United States Secret Service is mandated by statute and executive order to carry out two significant missions: protection and criminal investigations. The Secret Service protects the President and Vice President, their families, heads of state, and other designated individuals; investigates threats against these protectees; protects the White House, Vice Presidents Residence, Foreign Missions, and other buildings within Washington, D.C.; and plans and implements security designs for designated National Special Security Events. The Secret Service also investigates violations of laws relating to counterfeiting of obligations and securities of the United States; financial crimes that include, but are not limited to, access device fraud, financial institution fraud, identity theft, computer fraud; and computer-based attacks on our nations financial, banking, and telecommunications infrastructure."
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:18 AM
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2. Treasury Dept.
The Secret Service was created in 1865 as a federal law enforcement agency within the Treasury Department. It derives its legal authority from Title 18, United States Code, Section 3056. It was established for the express purpose of stopping counterfeiting operations which had sprung up in this country following the introduction of paper currency during the Civil War. The Secret Service maintains its role as guardian of the integrity of our currency, but today also investigates crimes involving United States securities, coinage, other government issues, credit and debit card fraud, and electronic funds transfer fraud. The most obvious of its other activities is executive protection, which began after the assassination of President McKinley in 1901. The Secret Service's functions include:

Protecting the President and Vice President and their families, candidates for those offices, former Presidents and their families, and visiting heads of foreign states and governments;
Enforcing laws against counterfeiting currency, coins, or securities of the United States;
Enforcing laws against fraud or forgery of Government checks or bonds, and other securities and obligations of the United States;
Investigating credit and debit card fraud, computer fraud, and electronic fund transfer fraud;
Furnishing physical security for the White House, the Main Treasury Building, and foreign embassies and missions in Washington, D.C.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:18 AM
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3. Duties ...

It's not simply jurisdiction. The Secret Service is charged with certain duties. Its *primary* duty is, in a nutshell, protecting the integrity of the money supply, i.e. investigating counterfeiting. It's also been charged with protecting government officials and other related functions.

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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:18 AM
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4. FBI is internal, CIA external, SS is just to protect president and other...
...elected officials, AFAIK.

Things have been intentionally blurred by Boosh though, especially with FBI and CIA who've been used in other than expected roles in the last 6 years.

PB
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:34 AM
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9. Actually the Secret Service does other stuff too.
I think they're the main anti-counterfeit money organization. I don't remember what else. Agent Mike, a little help?
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:20 AM
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5. Practical or theoretical difference?
My knowledge is limited. From what I understand, the FBI is in country although they can draw on outside resources for information. The CIA is a black box. The CIA can initiate operations out of country which provide funding for other operations within an entirely different country. Personally, I kind of think of the CIA as a kindergarten playground for the NSA.

The secret service is the nannies. And, they have menopause.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:24 AM
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6. They all have websites
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 12:26 AM by XemaSab
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:25 AM
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7. Secret Service is a part of the Treasury Department.
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 12:27 AM by meldroc
It's a federal law enforcement agency originally tasked with fighting counterfeiting. To this day, if you try photocopying a $100 bill and try to spend it somewhere, it will be the Secret Service that busts your ass. They also fight other forms of counterfeiting - bootleg movies, software, counterfeit prescription drugs, etc. As part of the Treasury Dept., they investigate other financial crimes. They even got in on busting black-hat computer hackers - they're regulars at hacker conventions like DEFCON (where the attendees play a spirited game of Spot the Fed.)

After President McKinley's assassination, the Secret Service got their second role of protecting the President and other VIPs.
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:33 AM
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8. So, Meldroc, where does most of their money go now?
You definitely seem to know your stuff about these guys. I am wondering if the funding is now mostly for the protection of the Prez and VP and the like, and of course, cordoning off dissenters (a mile away) when the Prez is speaking, or is it the treasury business still a major function of the SS?

thanks
b_b

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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:52 AM
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11. I'm not a true expert.
Some of what I learned about the SS I learned when I read up on their raid against Steve Jackson Games back in 1990 (when they were on one of their hacker witch-hunts.) Other than that, Wikipedia or the Discovery channel. But yes, they do more than protecting VIPs - anti-counterfeiting operations are a big part of their business.

I have no idea why they're operating the way they do today, or how they budget their money. I find their use of "free speech zones" to be completely reprehensible. THIS ENTIRE COUNTRY IS A FREE SPEECH ZONE!!! I can understand them doing what they have to do to keep the POTUS and other VIPs from getting shot, but that doesn't mean that peaceful protesters should be penned up a mile away. We have the right to make our voices heard, and even heckle him in some cases (non-violently, of course, and not causing disruption to speeches & such.)

In other words, Agent Mike, you shouldn't be throwing people out of Bush events and harassing them because they're wearing anti-war t-shirts. By all means, screen them for weapons (in exactly the same way that you screen everyone else for weapons) and make sure they're not a security hazard, but as long as they're being peaceful and non-disruptive, LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:44 AM
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10. Secret Service
The Secret Service protects the President, vice president and the rest of the administration etc. They also handle internal threats to the administration.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 01:24 AM
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12. School safety? Yeah, that's right...
Secret Service takes a crack at school violence

NEW YORK (AP) -- Long the guardian of America's presidents and currency, the Secret Service is extending its expertise to a new domain: the nation's schools.

The agency believes that some of the methods that help thwart potential assassins might also prevent Columbine-style violence.

The project on how to identify youngsters who might turn violent will be completed this fall. Agents from the Secret Service's National Threat Assessment Center, including psychology experts, have examined about 40 recent school shootings and interviewed several of the perpetrators.

"Our schools are a fairly safe place to be, but the national psyche has changed -- nobody still thinks 'It can't happen to me,"' Secret Service Director Brian Stafford said in an interview this week.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/08/17/secret.service.sc...
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 01:26 AM
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13. The same as the difference between
pork chops, bacon, and ribs... Three flavors of swine.
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