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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:41 PM
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The REAL "October surprise" is on November 5th
But I don't think it's gonna work this time...
November Surprise?

Tom Engelhardt / The Nation | October 18 2006

The US-backed special tribunal in Baghdad signaled Monday that it will likely delay a verdict in the first trial of Saddam Hussein to November 5. Why hasn't the mainstream media connected the dots between the Saddam's judgment day and the midterm elections? Here's how the story was reported pretty much everywhere: "An Iraqi court trying Saddam Hussein for the killing of Shi'ite villagers in the 1980s could deliver a verdict on November 5, officials said, a ruling which could send the ousted leader to the gallows"

A possible death-sentence for Saddam and his top lieutenants on November 5? Now, shouldn't that raise a few eyebrows somewhere? If you happen to have a calendar close at hand, pull it over and take a quick look. That verdict would then come, curiously enough, just two days before the midterm elections. It's the sort of thing that--you would think--that any reporter with knowledge of the US election cycle (no less of how Karl Rove has worked these last years) would at least note in an article. But no, you can search high and low without finding a reference to this in the mainstream media.

I must admit I hadn't thought about this myself until a friend forwarded me "No Comment," the e-mail newsletter that Scott Horton sends out from time to time. ("It's intended as ironic. All I do is comment.") Horton, who likes to identify himself in his newsletter as an "obscure New York lawyer," is actually an adjunct professor at the Columbia University Law School, as well as chairman of the International Law Committee at the New York City Bar Association. He makes frequent trips to Iraq, working as an attorney "representing arrested local-hire reporters of US media."

Once he had pointed out the timing in his newsletter, I couldn't get it out of my head and, since a Google search and a spin through various mainstream articles on the changed verdict date, brought up only a couple of passing mentions online of its relationship to the US elections, I called Horton directly. Here's what he had to say when I asked whether he thought Karl Rove might have anything to do with this: "For sure. That November 5 date is designed to show some progress in Iraq. This is the last full news-cycle day in the US before the elections. It'll be Monday. And the American public will see Saddam condemned to death and see it as a positive thing. "When you look at polling figures," Horton said," there have been three significant spike points. One was the date on which Saddam was captured. The second was the purple fingers election. The third was Zarqawi being killed. Based on those three, it's easy to project that they will get a mild bump out of this.

"After all, almost every newspaper reserves space for Iraq reporting every day. This just assures that they will have a positive news story to feature. I find it amazing not that journalists don't editorialize on this, but that they report the story without even noting that this is right before the midterm elections. That's pretty amazing to me! "This is not coincidence," he continued. "Nothing in Iraq that's set up this far in advance is coincidental. Look at Michael Gordon's book Cobra II. One of the points he drives home is how everything in the battle for Baghdad was scripted for US media consumption."

more:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/181006...

but Toles knows too...

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:44 PM
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1. Who is stopping elected Democrats from saying what journalists will not?
????????

This is a question I ask for every issue, not just this one.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:44 PM
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2. I bet that Bush will deliver a primetime address the night before the election
To comment on Saddam's conviction, just so he can get that extra 4% swing to keep control of Congress.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:47 PM
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5. And it will be against a solid backdrop of U.S. flags, with a
hand-picked audience.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:48 PM
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6. It will be at the Oval Office
And the MSM will gullibly carry his stump speech.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:47 PM
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3. We'll know soon enough how
people will react to this but Saddaam is looking better than what we have done in Iraq. It might just remind people that we lost almost 3000 soldiers and spent hundreds of billions for the neverending chaos that we now have. What did we stop, the were no WMD and how many other tyrants are still there.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:47 PM
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4. Well it seems like the verdict has already been decided...
I think it is a mistake to execute Saddam....put him in the Hague prison for the rest of his life....

If the US kills Saddam...this cabal better plan on putting hundreds of thousands of troops in Iraq.....the Iraqi's may hate him but they will see it as an attack on all Muslims.....
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:15 PM
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7. I predict a BACKFIRE
Here's the thing. Saddam's guilty verdict is pretty much a given. Nobody is going to be shocked or surprised. They can spin it all they want but that straw won't turn to gold. The American people will think:

"Yeah. So?"

We'll still be in Iraq. Our children will still be dying. A guilty verdict for Hussein won't end the war and it won't bring anybody back from the dead. All it will do is remind everyone that he's alive while 2800 American soldiers are gone forever.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:21 PM
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8. That is it?
Karl can do better than that
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wholetruth00 Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:22 PM
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9. Remember, remember the 5th of Nvember!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:23 PM
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10. it's all for show
to make people "think" the Republicans numbers are going up, so that when all the fraud takes place Nov. 7th, it will "make sense".
:eyes:
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:34 PM
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11. Here is the real surprise:
Saddam is found guilty and everyone says "Yeah big deal." Then, Osama breaks in and tries to rescue his friend form the evil Americans and is caught. :)
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:43 PM
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12. Who are they going to get to play the part of Osama bin forgotten?
The guy is most likely dead...and even if is still hooked up to a dialysis machine in a cave somewhere, he and Saddam are certainly not BFF.

In fact, I think if Osama was alive and showed up, he'd offer to sharpen the blade, twist the rope, polish the bullets, mix the chemicals...or whatever would help expedite the execution process.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:45 PM
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13. Any old guy will do. The herdning masses of sheeple will not look
closely.... Once they see brown skin , a beard, and that strange hat--they all look alike to them anyway.
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