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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:05 AM
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Hey bush twins, LOOK at Prince Harry & hang your heads in shame.
http://express.lineone.net/news_detail.html?sku=531


Prince Harry's anger as Army chiefs push for war zone ban
09/10/06
By Richard Palmer
Royal Correspondent

AN angry and embarrassed Prince Harry was last night considering quitting the Army after commanders banned him from serving on the front line in Afghanistan.

He is furious at the prospect of being so publicly humiliated with his reputation as a soldier destroyed before his career has really begun.

Senior officers in the Household Cavalry threw his entire future into jeopardy by suggesting that the third-in-line to the throne could not be risked in such a dangerous combat zone.

The Ministry of Defence and Clarence House immediately tried to play down the controversy by insisting that no decision had been made about deploying the young officer to Afghanistan or anywhere else.


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Come on jenna and barbara, sign up and show your pride in your nation and defend her, take Prince Harry's example, you two being scions during a war, shall I send you the recruiting office's number?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:08 AM
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1. I bet Bab's and Jenna have more party beads than Harry
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 08:09 AM by liberal N proud
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:10 AM
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2. At least he is serving
But that's what makes the UK different from the US. In the UK there is more of culture among the wealthy that promotes duty and giving something back to the country, rather than just take, take take. Military service is highly regarded by members of polite society, while wealthy communities in the US view military service as something best left to the working and middle classes.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:11 AM
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3. "We would sign up today but for the fact that our Father....
...is Lord of the Universe"
..."and besides God told us to stay here and serve the troops by going to Disco Clubs"
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:24 AM
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8. And they spend a lot of money doing serious shopping!
nt
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:17 AM
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4. Hopefully * isn't king yet.
Does Blair have any kids? That would be a better comparison.

Bill
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:32 AM
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18. Blair has four, one born during his time as prime minister.
His eldest, Euan, was an intern for the 'cans in D.C. Yes, read this BBC entry and weep:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4623333.stm

The other kids are too young to serve in anything, as far as I know.
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:18 AM
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5. The Bush clan knows no shame.n/t
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:20 AM
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6. Yeah but to do that, they'd have to feel shame
and shame doesn't come naturally to the almighty Bushs. NO matter how much they've earned it.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:20 AM
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7. credit to Prince Harry
military service has long been a traditional career for younger sons of the British monarch (or Prince of Wales, as in this case).

Prince Andrew, the Queen's second son, served in action in the Falklands. The Queen's father, Prince Albert, Duke of York, a second son (later King George VI) served in WWI, his younger brother, the Duke of Kent, died in a plane crash while serving in WWII.

If the British government refuses to allow Harry to serve as his forebears has, the value of the British military as a career option for younger royals will be removed. Prince Harry has had some...discipline problems in the past and I think the military is a good, structured environment for him. But, if he isn't allowed to serve as any other officer serves, he's better off finding another path - and other paths are damn few when you're a Prince.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:35 AM
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10. Yes, Andrew served as a chopper pilot during the Falklands
War. Perhaps that wasn't quite as dangerous as Afghanistan is today, but being a chopper pilot in *any* war is no cakewalk. I think young Harry is to be commended, and you are correct: if he is forbidden to do combat service alongside his men, he will have lost all credibility with them, and his military career goes right out the window.

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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:37 AM
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11. No real excuse not to allow it
He isn't the 'end of the line". There is still his Uncle and cousins if something bad happens. It sounds 'cold'. But the point is, there is no reason not to allow him to do this, if he reallyl wants to do it.

If our country's elite children joined the service and their carrer was followed like the Prince's are.. the military might not have as hard a time getting people to join right now.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:33 AM
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19. you're right...
and he's not the immediate heir, Prince William is.

William will NOT be seeing active service. It's already been said (and he's not out of Sandhurst military academy yet) that he'll do one year each in the army, air force and navy, and then move on to his royal obligations.

Even if something happened to Prince Harry, you're right...he still has his older brother, as well as 2 uncles, their 3 daughters, his aunt, her 2 children...and many others further down the line.

In WWI, the future Edward VIII was not allowed active service because he was the heir...his younger brothers were. Prince Harry should be allowed the same treatment, IMO.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:28 AM
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9. Sounds like he's left his adolesence behind
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 08:28 AM by demnan
and is truly becoming his mother's son at last. Good for Harry! He's a brave young man.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:40 AM
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12. They were busy...
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:57 AM
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21. Other priorities... n/t
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:42 AM
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13. "As for Billy, the boy next door, we could give a flying fuck if he
serves in such a dangerous combat zone."

Wankers.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:46 AM
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14. And let's be frank: royals aren't good for much
But the one thing they *can* do is serve as an example, inspire, and, not to put too fine a point on it, if necessary die for their country.

This will mark a major, major change in British history and policy if a prince is not allowed to serve as any other officer.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:47 AM
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15. They should hang their head in shame
because Prince Henry is a fucking idiot? I have nothing but respect for anyone and everyone who does all they can to avoid military service.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:49 AM
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16. Harry always knew
they wouldn't allow him on the front lines so it's really easy to talk tough and keep on enjoying the taxpayers' loot.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:49 AM
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20. bs.
You obviously know jack about the royals.

Military service, including service in wartime has been a traditional career of younger sons. Including Harry's uncle, Prince Andrew, who served in the Falklands, his grandfather, George VI, who served in WWI (not to mention refusing to abandon London during the bombing of London in WWII, despite the Palace being hit), his great uncle, George, Duke of Kent, who died in a plane crash during WWII, in addition to many earlier younger sons of monarchs.

Prince Harry absolutely wants to serve as any other officer in his unit. He's threatened to quit if he's "mollycoddled".

I suggest you learn a bit about what you're criticizing...
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:57 AM
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17. What a pant load
Harry's great grandfather, future George VI and at the time second in the succession, served as gunnery officer on board the HMS Collingwood during the battle of Jutland.

Say what you will about the Windsors; they don't shirk.
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