Y Turks (AAR): Now is not the time for Obama-we need a fighter!

[mod mom]

The Young Turks radio program on AAR is new to my area and I am really liking these guys! They were just commenting that although Obama definitely has a future, we need a strong fighter. These times are not Rep/Dem politics as usual but as we know radical times with a decider who just nixed Habeas Corpus and the Geneva Conventions. We need a fighter like Russ Feingold and even Kerry is standing up (now...too bad he didn't in '04) and calling a spade a spade.

I AGREE 100%! No time for Mr Niceguy/gal, we need to fight these forces adamently that are killing our democracy!

[queenbdem87]

1. Feingold 2008

[KG]

2. the dem party will not fight, thus they will not bring forth a fighter.

don't expect radical politics from the dem party, and you won't be disappointed

[mod mom]

6. I will hold my nose and vote for Sherrod Brown in Ohio (who failed to

stand w John Conyers about opposing the seating of the Ohio Electorate (despite being a former SOS and knowing what transpired) and voted FOR the Military Commissions Act (read: torture and the death of habeas corpus) and sent me this reply to his vote:

"Thank you for contacting me to express your opinion about the Military Commission Act, H.R. 6166.

This week, I voted for H.R. 6166, a bill to create a legal system for trying enemy combatants held by the government since September 11, 2001.

This bill creates a basic legal framework to provide a system for bringing detainees to justice. Many of those detained have been in U.S. custody for more than 5 years with no opportunity to prove their guilt or innocence. I believe that it has taken far too long for a legal framework to be developed. Under the framework established in the bill, the innocent can be freed, the guilty can be punished, and our homeland can be secured.

This is not a perfect bill, but I voted to give those detained by our military a long-overdue day in court. I voted to allow Democrats to offer amendments striking the bill's limitation on habeas corpus appeals and improve its appeals system. I also voted to subject the bill's military tribunals system to expedited judicial review and sunset the entire program for congressional review after 2009. If the bill is enacted, I will continue to push for vigorous oversight of military tribunals and work to make the program more accountable."

but...I've just about had it with weak spined party that fails to stand up for truth, fails to stand up for their voters. If this election is reminiscent of '04, I'm defecting for good.

[quiet.american]

3. From their remarks, I would say Young Turks have no sense of the man. n/t

[BobRossi]

4. Screw the little turks.. OBAMA NOW!

America is ready for Obama, and Obama is ready for America.

[mntleo2]

5. Yeah I Love Obama, BUT

I listened to that too and I agree, we are dealing with wingnut radicals who have taken over the government, and I think it will take something (and someone) radical to bring them down.

I do not listen to the corporate media EXCEPT for Air America anymore, but I made a special effort to listen to Obama yesterday. He is a brilliant man and he is reasonable, and in a "normal" time, he would be such a good choice for our president, I adore him. But he wants to be president, he is going to need to get more "Feingold" and less "Clintonian" in order to inspire people to come out and vote for him. We just do not need anyone mainstream right now. We need someone to inspire invigorate and yes inflame us. I believe Obama is capable of doing all that, but will he? I am wondering.

Cat In Seattle

[stepnw1f]

7. I Agree.... mod mom

I like Obama and think he be a good candidate, but not right now. Besides, I believe he needs a few more years. I don't see what the rush is.

[bowens43]

8. I disagree. We don't need a 'fighter' we need a 'uniter'

Obama can do that.