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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:30 AM
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im now officially friendless
I live in right wing hell and still havent learned to keep my mouth shut. I cant stand it when these morons come out in defense of bush but then lack any facts with which to defend themselves. All they do is quote limbaugh. Heres a good example - i was trying to explain to a repuke that we are terrorists since we are always interfering in other peoples lives by subverting democratically elected government and then replacing them with vicious military thugs. Naturally i was given a blank stare so i explained about chile. Another blank stare until one of them got it and said the classic line which made my blood pressure go up to 300/10 "we only interfere in other people's country for their own good."!!!!!
Well i finally gave up and told them that i was just joking that chile was really something you ate with rice!
No one talks to me anymore.
oh boo hoo
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:33 AM
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1. Classic version: "inside of every gook is an American waiting...
... to get out".

(In case that went too fast for anyone: that was a classic version of the OPs reporting that we only interfere in other countries for their own good.)

That ain't the media folks - that's the people - and they're the problem.
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:33 AM
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2. Get a dog.
Unlike Republicans, they're open to reason. Mostly.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:35 AM
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3. Get a dog.
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 12:36 AM by babylonsister
:spray: :rofl:

I got nothin'.

Edit to add, of course I do! If you travel at all, it might not be a good idea.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:38 AM
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4. Move to Mass.
Wouldn't it be refreshing to be the most right-wing person in a conversation? Move to our Commonwealth - my federal reps are Kennedy, Kerry, and Barney Frank. We have gun control and all sorts of stuff that works well. And amazing public schools.
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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:40 AM
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5. i used to live there
I used to live in methuen, on the state line with NH. I loved it there but my wife who is from brazil couldnt take the winters anymore so we moved to ca.
And oh the italian food there - i do so drool when i remember those restaurants!!
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:45 AM
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9. You'll Love Allston
Come further south this time, near Boston. I believe that Allston (part of Boston) has the largest or second-largest Brazillian population in the US. It was a riot when Brazil won the World Cup in 2002 - the whole place went nuts. We go over there to eat at the restaurants all of the time.

We live just down the road from Allston, in Newton - rated the safest city in the US, believe it or not.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:58 AM
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16. I was born in Methuen
My parents moved us to right wing hell when I was 13. 37 years later I'm still here.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:57 AM
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15. Ok, rub it in
I have McCain, Kyl and J.D. Hayworth. :puke:
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 01:02 AM
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18. But You Do Have Better Weather... nt
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:40 AM
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6. You got lots of friends. You're like a dentist.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:40 AM
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7. you don't eat chili with rice
you eat it with beans

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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:42 AM
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8. oh pardon me
no wonder i have no friends. How could i not know something like that. Just for that im going to sit in my deep fryer for an hour, then go scrub my outhouse.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:56 PM
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28. you have a deep fryer big enough to sit in?
are you thinking what I'm thinking

DEEP FRIED TURKEY!!!!!!

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:49 AM
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10. No you don't (eat chili with beans)
Not in Tejas, and not in my home in California.

Why dilute great beef, pork, or cabrito with beans?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:56 PM
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29. no pork
beef

and the beans add to the chili

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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:49 AM
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11. "we only interfere in other people's country for their own good."
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 12:50 AM by katsy
How fucked up is that rationale?

"we only interfere in our kids lives for their own good."

"we only interfere in other people's beliefs for their own good."

"we only torture people for our own good."

"we only interfere in other people's privacy for their own good."

"we only interfere in people's bedrooms and deathbeds for their own good."

"we only trash the constitution for your own good."

"we only interfere with alternative enery for halliburton/exxon's own good."

"we only hide our dead troops coffins so you don't get sad."

"we only interfere with your child's mental health so big pharma can make more junkies."


Is it any wonder they fuck up their kids, the country... actually, any country they insert themselves, the constitution. Really.

:crazy:
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:54 AM
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12. actually, henry kissinger said re: chile
"We couldn't stand by and let a country go communist through the irresonsibility of its own people."

not making that up.
look it up, please, if you doubt.


very reflective of the above comments, eh?

and reminds me of the infamous: "We had to destroy the village in order to save it," which seems like it coule apply to a lot that's happening in Iraq right now, doesn't it?
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 01:07 AM
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19. What the hell is up with these misanthropes?
Seriously... when do they get a clue?

Why aren't their ethical centers wired?

Is it their religion? Have they become so brainwashed in their own belief system's "morality" that they have no ethical, therefore measurable standards at all?

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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 01:24 AM
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24. havent a clue
I stand more chance of rewriting the theory of relativity than i do of ever understanding these nit wits
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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 01:21 AM
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22. oh yes
I remember that well.
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 01:01 AM
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17. We interfere with sovereign nations for their own good?
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 01:02 AM by bumblebee1
These are sovereign nations, not our children.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 01:28 AM
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25. I don't believe they understand or care about the difference.
Not at all.

This is how they are wired.

They rationalize their behavior (from cradle to grave) by crying "I mean well" and "only I can save you". They have a freaking god complex. They know all and proceed to reshape the world in their own image.

No one, not their children, not their business associates, not their fellow Americans or citizens of the same planet are capable of making their own choices.

Chavez... bad. Interfere in their elections.

Palenstinians... bad. Make no attempt to coax Israel out of occupied Palestinian lands and, in fact, aid and abet in the genocide of Palestinians.

Iranians... bad. Never mind U.S. interference in their country way back when the cia was torturing Iranians.

Democrats... bad. Swiftboat them all.

Social safety nets... bad. Screw your children. I got mine so go drop fucking dead.

Regulatory agencies... bad. Spraying pesticides around the environment of ghetto babies is for the greater good.

Iraqis... dead. WHOOPS. In this case, they DID reshape Iraq in their own image and pretty ugly.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:55 AM
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13. I know how you exactly how you feel
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 12:55 AM by DesertRat
I'm surrounded by right wingers too. I'm so thankful for DU. :hi:
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:55 AM
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14. Consider this...
The Friends of the Friendless Club!



Sorry, that was the first thought that popped into my head when I read your OP title. :evilgrin:

Seriously, I'm surrounded by the apathetic & those who watch Faux News, too, & the way I handle it is to dole information out subtly & off-the-cuff fashion. Our problem is that there is such a long list of corruption & outrageousness that telling too much at one time is overwhelming & would make us come off looking as though we were wrapped in tin foil.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 01:11 AM
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20. I'm your friend!
:toast:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 01:12 AM
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21. i go through that too
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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 01:22 AM
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23. too funny
rapture shmapture go already. Its funny you should post that with a jewish accent!!!
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 01:58 AM
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27. my new favorite bumper sticker
wish I could take credit, it's appropriately irreverent.
:toast:
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 01:45 AM
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26. its their logical conclusion to what they've learned since birth
America is the greatest country in the world. I used to think back when I was 7 or 8, that the US should just take over every country and make them part of the United States. It made sense everything I was taught was that other countries were corrupt and ours was the best government ever dreamed of. Many Republicans still believe in something like that, except they dont want other countries to be part of the US, they want the US to teach them how to be like us. Of course its justifiable because even the worst in America is better than the best in those other countries.

Anytime talking to a Republican who thinks like this, and Ive talked to many you have to first bring them to realization that America isn't perfect. What I tend to go with is asking them when has America been a benevolent nation? Was it when the country was founded as we exterminated the Indians? Or anytime before the civil war when we built our country on the back of slavery? Or after the civil war can start talking about imperialism, although most republicans are so clueless about our imperial conquests its kinda hard. The Phillipenes is a good example to use because it was directly the US military slaughtering people. Our first anti-insurgancy war. After doing that gotta remind them then that you don't hate the US but you recognize that it isn't perfect, and maybe other countries do have things to offer the world.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:57 PM
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30. Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke. - n/t
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:01 PM
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31. You should never try to explain something to a repuke.
I live in the supposed 'Heart' of Texas and I can tell you from firsthand experience, it is a waste of your valuable time.

Repukes only understand two basic emotions; hate and fear. Both of which get confused as Repukes lack the evolutionary trait of distinction between hate and fear. Sad really when you look at it.
They sometimes have jovial spasms, but I'm not convinced yet that it is a true emotion. More of an urge IMO.
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