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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:50 PM
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Pope Urges Catholics To Oppose "Deviant" Love
Verona, Italy (AHN)-Urging Italian Catholics to defend the traditional family structure in an apparent reference to gay marriage, Pope Benedict said any moves to legalize "weak and deviant" unions should be opposed.

Speaking to a national convention of Italy's politically powerful Roman Catholic Church in the northern Italian city of Verona, The Pope told the Italian crowd to defend "the family based on matrimony, opposing the introduction of laws on other forms of unions which would only destabilize it and obscure its special character and its social role, which has no substitute."

In another apparent reference to homosexual marriage, Pope Benedict said the Church had to say "'no' to weak and deviant forms of love," adding that, the Church wanted instead to say "'yes' to authentic love, to the reality of man as he was created by God."

During his address to the Catholic convention, the Pope also urged the Church to continue to defend "life in all its phases, from conception until natural death," and backed the Italian Church's demands for more state funding for Catholic schools, saying that they were still subjected to unjustifiable "ancient prejudices."

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7005245018
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:53 PM
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1. Nothing is more deviant than celibacy
Just sayin.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:02 PM
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6. That and his priests
abusing the children of parents who actually believe their bullshit.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:54 PM
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2. Oh Ratzi, Ratzi, Ratzi...
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:24 PM
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11. I adore your pic!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:55 PM
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3. Yet He Turns a Blind Eye to Pedophilia in His own Church
Oh Jesus the hypocrisy!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:58 PM
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5. while HE knows better -- he pushes the message
that gay = pedophilia.

it's their way out of what would otherwise be the pr disaster of the millenium -- and considering how fast the firestorm has blown over -- it seems to some extent to be working.

the republick party will use the same re: foley.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:31 PM
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16. It's Disgusting All Around
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 06:49 PM by stepnw1f
especially how people on the right keep trying to tie the two together.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:44 PM
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18. and to a certain extent they will succeed.
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 06:45 PM by xchrom
some will depend on how much energy and force they are willing to pour into that message.

but americans are notorious for not wanting to know the truth.
just look at our history re: african americans or first nations people.

i had to add -- saddam and 9-11.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:56 PM
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4. Pope been shooting them off lately! Hi Mr. Atheist, no deviant behavior
oh what a good start to an old relationship (that had one burnt to death for heresy). How times have changed! When are we going to have our first RC, atheist priest? :rofl:
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:10 PM
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7. P. Benedict's homophobic rhetoric should surprise no one. The Catholic
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 06:12 PM by Raster
Church--like many religious sects--is grasping madly for relevance in a modern age, and instead of cultivating the self-examination and introspection necessary for evolution and survival, it chooses instead to start a 21st inquisition against gays. Unfortunately such reactionary stances may satisfy hard-liners and the Opus Dei crowd, the majority of catholics--especially in this country and Western Europe--will see the homophobic barrage as just another example of Catholicism's continuing irrelevance and interference in their lives. People are getting very tired of organized religion's self-authored mandate to be the necessary interface between God and Man. Yes, Man. The Christians as with the Muslims, as with the Jews all officially discount women as capable of holding any type of priesthood or being the connection to the God. Relevance indeed.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:15 PM
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8. wow
I am glad a bunch of child molesters can tell everyone else all about real love! When will we find out the pope had an online conversation with Foley?
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:18 PM
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9. Deeeeeviant Loooveee..
PaapppparaPPappppa...
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:23 PM
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10. Oooh, I kinda' like the sound of that---deviant love!
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:26 PM
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12. Stop Catholic Bashing.
Just kidding. This motherfucker is my mortal enemy. He's a threat to my life and safety. What does that celibate fuck know about the strength of my union. It's so "weak" they can't seem to get rid of it.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:28 PM
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14. Does the Pope think of god when he does it?
;)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:27 PM
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13.  ratso has a problem with deviant religions also
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:28 PM
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15. Now He Tells Me...
:evilgrin:
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:32 PM
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17. I also love the whining about state funding for Catholic schools
Sell just one of the countless works of art in the Vatican and there'd be enough to fund every Catholic school in the world.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:56 PM
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19. I will defend a Pope or other religious figure when credit is due, but
in the meantime I want him out of my pants and out of the pants of my neighbor.

People should make their own decisions on sexual expression.

I might take advice on the subject from Lou Reed and Janis Joplin, though. They would at least speak from experience.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 07:08 PM
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20. well, perhaps choir boys will be at long last safe.
:sarcasm:
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 07:19 PM
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21. "weak"? "deviant"?
Yeah, all those long-term gay partnerships are "weak"...unlike Britney Spears' 1st 55 hour marriage, or Liz Taylor's...what? 8? 9? marriages. Newt's marriage that he ended with his wife in the freaking hospital?

And if there's anything that supposedly celibate Catholic priests know, it's "deviant" sexuality.
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 07:32 PM
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22. Ratso has always had a special place in his heart for gay bashing
He's been all over us (so to speak) ever since his red cap days when he was in charge of The Inquistion. Ooops, sorry, "The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith." That man is just really really preoccupied with homosexuality. Hmmmm, almost makes you wonder :evilgrin:
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 08:56 PM
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23. To sin is divine.
That's the best counterattack.

Give it a try.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 09:34 PM
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24. Authentic love??? Who is HE to say someone's love for another is not
Authentic?? :grr:

Perhaps the Pope needs to focus his lectures on his Priests and pedophiles?
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 09:40 PM
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25. Vile.
This disgusting reactionary bigot clearly has no idea what authentic love is.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:19 PM
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26. a bit oxymoronic wouldn't you say mr. pope...
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:36 PM
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30. That is one of those adjectives
where you could drop the prefix and still be 100% correct.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:27 PM
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27. Ted Bundy urges psychopaths to oppose murder.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:28 PM
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28. Fuck him. The world's biggest defender of pedophilia in history.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:35 PM
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29. Is it just me, or does "Deviant Love" sound
like a perfect name for a punk band. They could dress in pope clothes.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:40 PM
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32. So does "Savage Love" - but they were about as far from punk...
... as you could get, and still be white.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:39 PM
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31. One more GIANT leap toward irrelevancy...
Don't worry, folks. Nobody listens to this clown.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:42 PM
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33. Aren't there about 1 billion catholics?
They can't *all* be "in name only", can they? Maybe that is what you mean - that they are ALL "in name only".
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:48 PM
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34. I think his influence is greatly overestimated
As is the Church's influence as a whole. The Church is basically dead in Europe. I think most Catholics are more open-minded, tolerant, and welcoming of that which the heirarchy finds "deviant." That, plus the fact that the hierarchy needs to muck out its own stalls before it comments on anyone else's. Sorry, but I find any commentary on "deviant sexual practices" to be null and void coming from an institution that turned a blind eye to some very deviant behavior within its own ranks for decades. That is why I say that what most of Benedict has to say is irrelevant.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:11 PM
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35. Why anyone listens to these medieval freaks is beyond me. nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:29 PM
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40. Asking why religious people do anything they do is a fool's quest.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:14 PM
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36. how about the pope clean up his own house before telling others
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 11:18 PM by flyarm
wtf to do!!

tell this pope keep his priests away from children..and then we can talk!!

Until then he can just stfu!!

and how about he worry about deviant brown shirts ..and pitiful catholics that support illegal wars...and murderers in our white house..ohhhh thats right ..our white house picked this pig!

dear pope..no love is deviant..only illegal wars that kill innocent people!

fly,.a catholic
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:19 PM
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37. Proof that this Pope has never had sex with a Catholic!! n.t
.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:22 PM
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38. The only union that is weak and deviant
is Ratzi's and that flea-bitten, scalawag church of pedophile-enablers. This Pope has a lot of room to talk about morality. . .given his own little marriage to the Hitler Youth.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:28 PM
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39. kevinbgoode ^5 n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:32 PM
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41. "Now, if you'll excuse me, as soon as I'm finished lecturing consenting
adults about their sex and birth control choices, I'm off to tell the same scientific community we used to burn at the stake how to do their jobs. Then, at seven, I have a gaggle of pedophile priests I need to cover up for."
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