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Gogi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 04:01 PM
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"A Motherlode of Remains", (WTC)
Edited on Sat Oct-21-06 04:13 PM by Gogi
www.nydailynews.com/news/front/story/46389p-390300c.html
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 04:08 PM
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1. I'm having trouble finding the story
Is that an actual headline somewhere on the Daily News front page?
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 04:15 PM
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3. Try this:
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 04:22 PM
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6. There it is!
Thanks, Wilber!
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Gogi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 04:15 PM
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4. I'm having trouble getting the url to go to the story, it wants to go to .
this page, will try again!
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 04:14 PM
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2. A 'mother lode' of remains

A 'mother lode' of remains

Mayor wants a new search at WTC site
after grim discovery


BY RICH SCHAPIRO, PAUL D. COLFORD and CORKY SIEMASZKO

DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

A "mother lode" of human remains from 9/11 has now been found by workers at Ground Zero - prompting Mayor Bloomberg to order officials yesterday to rip open and search all the manholes at the site.

Stunned by the discovery of 80 additional bone fragments, including a human rib, victims' relatives called for a halt to all construction and demanded that state Attorney General Eliot Spitzer investigate why the remains had gone undiscovered for so long.

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Police sources confirmed more than 80 fragments had been found amid the dirt and muck that Con Edison workers removed from a manhole and utility vault at the northwest corner of Ground Zero. The manhole and vault had sat dormant since the twin towers' collapse.

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he manhole and the others like it were all buried with debris on 9/11. In the months after the attacks, contractors covered the manholes and paved over them to create a service road so heavy machines could clear the debris in The Pit.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/463898p-390300c.html

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 04:15 PM
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5. link
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 04:28 PM
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7. So sad
I can't believe they didn't come back and excavate under the service road. The priority at first was getting big equipment in there and out, but once that was done..

I can completely understand the families being upset.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 04:35 PM
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8. How many were simply thrown away the first time?!
That's what I want to know...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 05:26 PM
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9. OK, I am not from NYC, so my opinion counts for little, but this is what I
think:

I think the entire WTC rescue and recovery debacle was a fucking JOKE, save the sincere efforts of the workers who tried so damn hard to find people alive.

Once that was called off, and the backhoes were called in, it became a GOP clusterfuck, like everything seems to be, lately. Crony contracts, bullshit speed to do it NOW, not do it right, and a DEMAND to REPLACE those two (in my personal opinion) ugly buildings with another taller and uglier building, QUICKLY...toute suite, chop, chop!!!!!!! Speed was more important than doing it right.

But despite all these demands for speed, they can't come up with a building design that anyone thinks is reasonable (that spire thing is HIDEOUS, IMO), they can't get their shit together on an appropriate remembrance site, and they can't even bother to do a full fucking search of the area to find chunks of humans that are as big as RIB BONES?

WTF is WRONG with these people???

I think they ought to make a big chunk of the place a park, with a memorial feature on the footprint of the towers. They should have concerts there, and a playground. Show outdoor movies in the summer, make a place for skating in the winter. Make it a happy place where people WANT to visit, to remember, for now, but future generations can find a reason to go and take pleasure, and maybe remember learning about that fucked up day in their history class.

Put some affordable senior housing in one small corner, a little middle class housing in another corner, and maybe a few small shops along the perimeter. Fuck this big tower shit. Make it a NEIGHORHOOD. Try to make the flow of traffic down that way a bit more normal, too, to blend with the rest of the city....

The guy who owns the lease needs compensating. Compensate his ass, and do it fairly. Get it OVER with. If he squawks and tries to hold them at gunpoint, tell him to go fuck himself, and that if he doesn't take his piece and shaddup, they'll take the property by eminent domain.

Anyway, that's my take. I always thought those towers ruined the skyline of NYC. I know I'm in the minority in this opinion, but I remember NYC without them, and liked the look of it better without them, to be honest...
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thingfisher Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 05:39 PM
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10. A fitting memorial
would be a gallows on which to execute the criminals in our government who are behind the whole 911 business.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:44 AM
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11. Well, I don't agree with that, simply because I oppose the death penalty
Also, I think memorials that focus on revenge are a total waste of energy. They also don't stand the test of time. People should know what happened there, but spilling blood because blood was spilled is rather like that "Eye for an eye, the whole world is blind" reasoning.

Far better for the families to remember their loved ones in a positive fashion, and not allow their entire lives to be defined by their last day on earth.

If there's justice to be meted out, let that be the task of the justice system, not the role of builders of memorials.
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