is adoption something progressives should avoid?

[ulysses]

Talk to me.

[ourbluenation]

1. I hope not...I'm adopted!

:)

[ulysses]

2. and you haven't committed suicide?

Amazing, that!

:hi:

[Deep13]

3. Why? I can't see why we would avoid it.

You mean adopting children, right? Even if you mean adopting animals, I still can't see why we should not do it.

[ulysses]

5. for one, it's been said

that anyone who favors adoption is de facto anti-choice.

It's been said.

[Deep13]

7. Allowing someone to choose adoption is pro-choice.

We aren't trying to talk women into getting abortions if they don't want them. We just want it available if they decide to do it. Letting children be wards of the state is not furthering the pro-choice cause.

[ulysses]

19. well said. n/t

[Perky]

42. and pro-life (eom)

[silverweb]

8. Huh?

"...anyone who favors adoption is de facto anti-choice."

Says who? That doesn't make any sense at all.

:crazy:

[ulysses]

13. 'twas a DUer.

Not naming names, though.

[silverweb]

18. Well, that person is wrong.

Absolutely wrong.

[Nikki Stone 1]

22. Are you sure it wasn't a troll?

Somebody with a low post count?

Pro-choice is just that. You make the best choice based on your own individual circumstances. And adoption is definitely one of those options.

[ulysses]

23. yup. n/t

[1932]

10. Are you drunk?

[ulysses]

11. I probably should be at 2 am

but no.

[unblock]

12. "it's been said" the earth is flat.

but that does not make it so.

[ulysses]

15. truly enough said. n/t

[aquart]

26. Ridiculous.

Adoption is one of the choices.

[Dorian Gray]

41. Who has said that?

Part of choice is the decision to have a baby and give the baby up for adoption. That is an acceptable choice, and a loving choice. I don't see how being pro-adoption is de facto anti-choice. I say that as an adopted person by a wonderful family.

[ulysses]

43. as I recall, the theory goes

that the "adoption industry" is behind all anti-choice legislation, in an effort to drive up "sales".

Or something...

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

46. And tin foil hats protect you from the radio waves.....

......some people are just damn fools.....

[Horse with no Name]

4. Absolutely not.

I think it is something that should be embraced.
All children need a home that loves them. Unfortunately, not everyone is born into that home.
That is why I get so angry when Gay people can't adopt. There are children living in loveless institutions when there are people willing to take them and love them as their own.
It just aint right.:(

[ulysses]

6. many of the friends we've made through the adoption process,

in fact most, are gay couples who've adopted other-race children. Those kids are our son's first friends.

[catabryna]

30. Couldn't agree more...

that the sexual orientation of potential parents who want to adopt should not be an issue whatsoever and is discriminatory. The criteria is a loving home to a child who needs one.

[sutz12]

9. Certainly not!

After all, if a liberal adopts a child, it's one less child adopted by a fundie and brainwashed into hating us.

The link to abortion is fallacious, like most RW talking points. It has no basis in reality.

[maddezmom]

14. As an mom that has adopted 2

Here they are:

[catabryna]

28. And, as a mom that adopted one...

my answer pretty clear:

Then:



Now:



Why on earth would anyone think I should have left my son to languish in an orphanage instead of giving him a loving home where he could get the care that he needed?

I was shocked and dismayed by some of what I read in the thread that was the impetus to this one.

Maddezmom: Your kids are gorgeous!

[maddezmom]

29. Your son is beautiful

before and after, as are you. :hug:

[Heidi]

33. Your son was and is a lovely child, catabryna.

:hi:

[ulysses]

35. beautiful kid, catabryna

:)

[Heidi]

32. Those are some beautiful kids, my friend.

:hug:

[Crunchy Frog]

16. Why, in God's name?

[ulysses]

17. I'm not championing the idea.

Just asking.

[REP]

20. Not For Children with No Other Family

When done in the best interest of the child, and not merely purchasing a desired commodity, it can be an extremely unselfish thing.

[ulysses]

21. what if the child has biological family

who decide, on their own, that they and the child are better off in an adoption scenario?

"Desired commodity"? Easy rhetoric.

[aquart]

27. The West Side of Manhattan is full of Chinese girls

with caucasian parents and black or hispanic nannies. They absolutely have family in China. They are very valuable commodities on the West Side.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

24. This has got to be a joke.

Anybody who believes that needs to put down their crack pipe. NOW!

[ulysses]

25. wish it was.

I was introduced to the idea a couple of years ago.

[Heidi]

31. I'm glad my progressive parents didn't avoid it.

And so are they.

For you, Mrs. ulysses and Christopher --> :hug:

[ulysses]

34. you statistical anomaly, you!

You're supposed to be, like, depressed or something! :hi: :loveya:

[Heidi]

38. Well, you know how it is with us

kids who were plucked from behind Door No. 3. I make up for my lack of depression by being unbearably perky. :bounce:

:rofl:

[ulysses]

39. ROFL!

Unbearably perky indeed. :D

[Random_Australian]

36. No, why would they?

Best way to raise a kid is with a set, and close, family. Worst is homes without touching, next worst is constantly changing foster care.

[sendero]

37. I'm raising..

... an adopted son (my wife adopted him before we met). Quite likely, had she not adopted him he would be dead. He had some serious health issues (he was adopted at 11 weeks old) and hospitals and doctors who treated him were writing him off as "failure to thrive".

My wife spent years until she found a promising diagnosis on the net and moved to Dallas to pursue it.

Even though our family doctor claims that Dr. Sherwood (who identified the malady and proposed a treatment) is a quack, the only thing that got him off a feeding tube was following Sherwood's advice.

I don't know how anyone could be against adoption. Things happen, children are born unwanted, or parents are unable to care for them. To be against adoption as some kind of political stance vis a vis abortion is Republican in it's moral repugnance.

[Dorian Gray]

40. Absolutely not.

I don't know why this would even be a question.

[Maat]

44. As the proudest mom on the planet, who adopted her beautiful

baby girl 8 years ago, I say, "Of course not!"

I was called a "human trafficker" by someone on this site (low post count); I alerted, and the message was removed.


I'm a proud liberal/progressive, a proud Democrat, a proud pro-choicer, and a proud retired social worker, in addition to being a proud mom whose child came to her in a special way, after having been physically abused and abandoned.

I'm glad for this thread; the positive posts make me feel happy inside.

[mmonk]

45. Adoption is something progressives should do,

I was adopted. If my wife and I couldn't reproduce (we have and have two sons) I would adopt like my parents did. I had a great childhood. I do remember an incident in college, a professor said adopted children were mentally unstable. So when I turned in some work to her after she said that, I signed my name and under it I put, "a mentally unstable student". She got the message. It's kind of wierd some people think like that.

[Maat]

47. HeeHee. Good story. I'm glad the Prof got the point. (n/t)

[w8liftinglady]

48. I think more progressives should adopt

there are so many children who would benefit from a progressive household...to love everyone,and accept that you can do anything you want to do.I would adopt if i could afford it.all it takes is love.